Will you get the shingles vaccine?

No Shingles vaccine for me. I had Shingles 37 years ago. It never came back.

BUT, if the shingles vaccine is such a good idea, why are there TV ads that say "If you got the shingles vaccine & later developed shingles, call the Law Firm of_______." Then, it goes on to say, "They failed to warn people of the risk of getting Shingles from the vaccine...."

Yeah, I know we're hearing that same ad over & over for many drugs, procedures & vaccines. These cases are usually settled out of court. Why would they pay out if they did nothing wrong?

One ad that really makes me chuckle: "Do you lack energy? Are you gaining weight? Low sex drive?" Talk to your doctor about testosterone replacement drug - you'll feel like a young man again. And she'll love it." Then, right after that ad, "If you took a testosterone supplement & later developed cancer, call the Law Offices of _________."
 

win231 said:
No Shingles vaccine for me. I had Shingles 37 years ago. It never came back.

BUT, if the shingles vaccine is such a good idea, why are there TV ads that say "If you got the shingles vaccine & later developed shingles, call the Law Firm of_______." Then, it goes on to say, "They failed to warn people of the risk of getting Shingles from the vaccine...."

Yeah, I know we're hearing that same ad over & over for many drugs, procedures & vaccines. These cases are usually settled out of court. Why would they pay out if they did nothing wrong?

One ad that really makes me chuckle: "Do you lack energy? Are you gaining weight? Low sex drive?" Talk to your doctor about testosterone replacement drug - you'll feel like a young man again. And she'll love it." Then, right after that ad, "If you took a testosterone supplement & later developed cancer, call the Law Offices of _________."
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Companies do that ALL THE TIME to spare themselves the godawful legal fees and costs of taking the case all the way through the courts. Most cases like these never go through courts. It's a business decision for the companies. When I was working I have no idea of how many times this happened -- at least 9 out of ten cases. The company sees that it is going to cost them $500,000 to go to court, but the plaintiff will settle for $50,000 -- easy decision. And of course the settlement will include a gag order that forbids either party from talking to the press or others about the settlement, and also will contain a statement that the company admits no responsibility for whatever happened. I had those agreements on my computer in boilerplate.
 
Butterfly said:
Companies do that ALL THE TIME to spare themselves the godawful legal fees and costs of taking the case all the way through the courts. Most cases like these never go through courts. It's a business decision for the companies. When I was working I have no idea of how many times this happened -- at least 9 out of ten cases. The company sees that it is going to cost them $500,000 to go to court, but the plaintiff will settle for $50,000 -- easy decision. And of course the settlement will include a gag order that forbids either party from talking to the press or others about the settlement, and also will contain a statement that the company admits no responsibility for whatever happened. I had those agreements on my computer in boilerplate.
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Yes, I'm aware that a company will sometimes settle to avoid court costs. But I have to ask myself a question: If there was really no way to get Shingles from a Shingles shot, it would be easy to prove with a few minutes of testimony from an expert witness for the drug company.

And the other issue I mentioned about Testosterone replacement drugs. That's the type of thing that fosters mistrust in pharmaceutical companies and doctors who push such drugs. And that causes people to question the need for other things - like vaccines.
 
I had the original zoster vac in 2008, & got shingles last July 2018, said to be a comparatively mild case, tho it sure wasn't comfortable. I didn't get the newer one when it came out recently because at that time my Medicare advantage plan had a high deductible for Rx & it could have cost me as much as $300-400 for the series of two shots. They have since droppedthe deductible & I haven't checked the new price but it isn't free here, I know that. I'm not saying I won't get it, but it isn't at the top of my "to do" list
 
No I won't be getting the vaccine.

It was offered free. I asked the doctor what are the odds of me getting shingles.

He said 50/50. So I like the odds. I'm too old now anyway and I also read the shot is not effective for old people.
 
My doctor told me the shingles thing is mostly based on scare tactics to get people to get the shot. He said it does not last but few days and is often a very small area affected.
 
People cannot get shingles or any other disease from dead viruses. Period.

That said, vaccines are designed to stimulate our immune systems - which is how they work. Sometimes our immune systems respond more strongly than expected or hoped for, thus making us sick with flu-like symptoms as our bodies create the antibodies for the disease. It's our own immune systems that makes us sick, not the vaccines themselves. Pretty crazy, right? It's true though, look it up.
 
Fmdog, if your dr said shingles only lasts a few days & affects on,y a small area he/she is either ignorant or lying to you. The "prodromal" period of general achiness & discomfort in the area lasts a few days before it breaks out, then the pustules break out & they itch strongly , then they burst & ooze. That phase takes as long as 10 days then at least another 10 days to 2 weeks before they dry up, itching & burning the whole time. Mine were on most of the whole right side of my back spreading a bit around to the side of my chest. 10 months later I have scarring & occasional itching from my mild case. I'm sure others on the forum had worse experiences than that.
 
I had one a few years back. Did it work - -who knows? I haven't had shingles but maybe I wouldn't have anyway.

I don't try to overthink most medical stuff. I have faith in my particular doctor and usually do what is recommended. He's helped keep me on my feet into my mid-80's do he can't have steered me in the wrong direction too often.
 
Geezerette said:
Fmdog, if your dr said shingles only lasts a few days & affects on,y a small area he/she is either ignorant or lying to you. The "prodromal" period of general achiness & discomfort in the area lasts a few days before it breaks out, then the pustules break out & they itch strongly , then they burst & ooze. That phase takes as long as 10 days then at least another 10 days to 2 weeks before they dry up, itching & burning the whole time. Mine were on most of the whole right side of my back spreading a bit around to the side of my chest. 10 months later I have scarring & occasional itching from my mild case. I'm sure others on the forum had worse experiences than that.
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Shingles intensity and duration varies from person to person. I just had them on my neck & left side of face and head in February of this year. The whole cycle from the tingling and numbness in the beginning to the dried up sores took about 10 days, but days 2 thru 7 were the worst. The burning sensation was excruciating at times. I did have some residual numbness and slight burning/itching for about 2 months after, now I am left with just a few small raised bumps on the back of my head and neck, which is probably some scarring from my scratching the sores when they were active.
 
The main focus should not be "How terrible the disease is;" it should be "Is the vaccine effective & safe?" After all, if a vaccine doesn't prevent an illness, it's useless, in my opinion.

Every year, the flu shot is advertised...& the main theme is "People die of the flu each year," and (the other one): "This year is the worst flu season ever, so get your flu shot." Really?? Why can't they prove that "This is the worst flu season ever?" But my all-time favorite uses guilt: "If you don't get a flu shot, you're making other people sick." (It works...if you're gullible & willing to swallow anything.) If the flu shot works, you wouldn't be able to give it to someone who was vaccinated.

Some pharmacies & supermarkets are even more creative; "Get a shot...give a shot." When you get your flu shot, we will vaccinate someone in a third-world country who can't afford medical care." Ah....yes....you're helping the poor by getting a flu shot. Makes ya feel all warm & fuzzy inside, eh? Wonderful...people's main concern is starvation, & instead of giving them food, give them a flu shot.... And, how are you going to verify that they got a flu shot??? Travel to their place & watch?

Each year, they get ,more & more desperate to sell flu shots. Why? As more & more people get the flu, anyway after a flu shot, they become less confident in it. That results in huge supplies of unused flu vaccine that has to be disposed of - it can't be used next year. In the medical industry, that's known as "Cash in the Trash."

THAT is why more & more people are suspicious about vaccines in general, along with other doctors' advice.
 
fmdog44 said:
My doctor told me the shingles thing is mostly based on scare tactics to get people to get the shot. He said it does not last but few days and is often a very small area affected.
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A small area? It affects the nerves and can be excruciating. A sister of mine had it break out in the optic nerve and it had a permanent effect on her eyesight, If diagnosed and treated within just a few days the pain can be reduced but it is not something I want to have to deal with. I asked my doctor for immunisation because I knew that I had had chicken pox as a child.
 
Warrigal said:
A small area? It affects the nerves and can be excruciating. A sister of mine had it break out in the optic nerve and it had a permanent effect on her eyesight, If diagnosed and treated within just a few days the pain can be reduced but it is not something I want to have to deal with. I asked my doctor for immunisation because I knew that I had had chicken pox as a child.
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Most seniors had the chicken pox. Shingles for the majority of the population is no big deal but of course we are all different.
 
win231 said:
The main focus should not be "How terrible the disease is;" it should be "Is the vaccine effective & safe?" After all, if a vaccine doesn't prevent an illness, it's useless, in my opinion.

Every year, the flu shot is advertised...& the main theme is "People die of the flu each year," and (the other one): "This year is the worst flu season ever, so get your flu shot." Really?? Why can't they prove that "This is the worst flu season ever?" But my all-time favorite uses guilt: "If you don't get a flu shot, you're making other people sick." (It works...if you're gullible & willing to swallow anything.) If the flu shot works, you wouldn't be able to give it to someone who was vaccinated.

Some pharmacies & supermarkets are even more creative; "Get a shot...give a shot." When you get your flu shot, we will vaccinate someone in a third-world country who can't afford medical care." Ah....yes....you're helping the poor by getting a flu shot. Makes ya feel all warm & fuzzy inside, eh? Wonderful...people's main concern is starvation, & instead of giving them food, give them a flu shot.... And, how are you going to verify that they got a flu shot??? Travel to their place & watch?

Each year, they get ,more & more desperate to sell flu shots. Why? As more & more people get the flu, anyway after a flu shot, they become less confident in it. That results in huge supplies of unused flu vaccine that has to be disposed of - it can't be used next year. In the medical industry, that's known as "Cash in the Trash."

THAT is why more & more people are suspicious about vaccines in general, along with other doctors' advice.
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Excellent post!
 
I have the chance to get the shingles shot through welcome to medicare intro visit with my doctor. I also got a mammogram on Monday.i had bc in 2011 and just got the lumpectomy. I refused radiation. No chemo.
 
I have had the single shot shingles vaccine but my PCP now wants me to get the two shot version of the vaccine.

I went to the pharmacy and they put me on a waiting list of over 150 names due to a shortage of the vaccine.
 
Ive had chickenpox when I was a child. Also ive never had any immunization shots. I did get pityrious rosea in my thirties which is trigggered by being exposed to chickenpox. I had rash all over for about 3 months. I bathed in baking soda bathes for the entire time. So I am wondering if I am more susceptible to the virus.
 
No, I only had two pox when I had chicken pox. I did get the pneumonia vax though. The new flu vax for seniors took the hearing in my left ear. I'll never get that again.
 
I had shingles 37 years ago. It never came back. That's supposed to make me get a shingles shot? No thanks; I'm not interested.
Has anyone else seen the TV ad: "Many people got shingles after getting a shingles shot. If you got shingles soon after getting a shingles vaccine, call this attorney's number."
Uh....yeah....great idea, eh?
 
win231 said:
The main focus should not be "How terrible the disease is;" it should be "Is the vaccine effective & safe?" After all, if a vaccine doesn't prevent an illness, it's useless, in my opinion. ...
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Excellent post! I bolded safe in the excerpt because so many new vaccines and the ever increasing booster recommendations for children even of older vaccines do not have adequate safety studies.

Big Pharma for many years up until appx the 90s always had new drugs in the research pipeline. As this steady stream of new pharmaceuticals began to dwindle, they've turned more and more to vaccines for profit ...many of which are not safe, especially from a neurological perspective. We don't know why some children are pushed into regressive autism when the ever burgeoning CDC recommended vaccine schedule shots are given, but heartbreakingly, many are. My theory is it's preexisting conditions such as mitochondrial disorder or autoimmune issues that make them susceptible.

We know from recent research that there's an immune system/brain connection, yet no one is retrospectively studying vaccines in light of this new information. Nor is it taken into consideration for safety of newer vaccines. And I know personally of more than one incident of dementia onset following vaccination in the elderly through my work in long-term care consulting. We will never see studies examining the neurological safety of vaccines in the elderly. I say this because there's so much idiopathic dementia as it is, and also because if the pharmaceutical industry isn't willing to look into why some children are susceptible to neurological damage, why the hell should they care about the old farts?
 
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I had originally planned to get the shingles vaccine, but I got the shingles before I could get the shot. In my case I would have to stop taking my arthritis meds for two weeks before the shot because there was the chance of a reaction between the meds and the vaccine.

Having suffered through a bout with the shingles, I would have preferred my better chances of not getting them with the vaccine.
 
I HAD IT 3 TIMES NOW ' its far from nice illness -so yes I must book in our centre to have it '
is there any side effects from anyone as yet …..
 

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