Will you stick with Windows 10 when Microsoft ceases updates?

My old desktop finally went belly up back in early April 2023 and I bought a new Dell desktop with Windows 11 already on it....I don't do much on one of these things besides turn it on and look at a few web sites and YouTube videos so I can't really tell the difference between the two.
 

Grampa Don said:
I believe I will. My PC's can't run Windows 11, yet they are plenty powerful enough for what I need. I can't see just throwing them away. Hopefully my anti-virus software will keep me out of trouble.
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Most PCs of the last 20 years would run Linux better than you might imagine quite securely, and without all the Windows security "issues".
 
I'm still running one old laptop on Windows 7, so if I had Windows 10 (I don't - I have Windows 11) then yes, I would keep running it if my laptop couldn't be updated. The only reason I got Windows 11 is because I dropped and demolished my laptop that had Windows 10.

You can use third party security and Malwarebytes to protect yourself but it probably won't be free.

Someone in the forum may bash me for this, and I probably won't reply, but just for the record, I've been running my WIndows 7 laptop with -0- security for (I think) 6 years and had no problems. But then, I have no files on it that matter.
 
I suspect that many Windows updates have nothing to do with security.

I've tried Linux many times in the past, various distributions, and have always had problems. My latest attempt was a Dell laptop that I erased Windows from and installed Linux Mint. It worked fine until I did an update and then it locked up the computer. A common complaint about Linux that I've seen is that updates can cause things to crash due to dependencies.

Also, I have a perfectly good Canon scanner and there are no Linux drivers for it, and never will be.
 
outlander said:
Linux is now above 5%. 5% of tens of millions of computers is a huge number.

Shame on Canon:(
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It's an older scanner and the drivers haven't even been updated for Windows. But, it still works with Windows 10. It might not with 11.

For those who don't know what the dependencies are that I referred to, this is my understanding. A lot of Linux software depends on subordinate software to operate correctly. These subordinates can be updated independently and when they are, they can cause the software that uses them to crash. I have seen this referred to as dependency hell.
 
Grampa Don said:
I suspect that many Windows updates have nothing to do with security.

I've tried Linux many times in the past, various distributions, and have always had problems. My latest attempt was a Dell laptop that I erased Windows from and installed Linux Mint. It worked fine until I did an update and then it locked up the computer. A common complaint about Linux that I've seen is that updates can cause things to crash due to dependencies.

Also, I have a perfectly good Canon scanner and there are no Linux drivers for it, and never will be.
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I'm with you, have tried various Linux varieties in the past too but there is always something missing, some program that doesn't work, some driver not available. Initially I tried it to extend the life of/speed up old computers but even that doesn't work anymore. Nice idea but not a fan.

Windows is a world leader for a reason.
 
Maybe change to Chrome and limit the exposure to the internet. Remove all passwords from the drive.
It isn't going away like immediately just take care to protect and use the old guy sparingly. If you have
a solid-state drive you can always download 11 pro and continue, just add more Memory too. Recommend
at least 500 GB solid state drive and 64 GB of memory. It's easy to add a TB of USB memory now. $25 on Amazon
 
Microsoft is offering extended free security updates for Windows 10 users for another year but there is a catch.

"In order to receive Windows 10 security updates for free for one year, people will have to sync their PC settings data to the cloud by using a Microsoft account"


I don't think I would take that offer if I was still using Windows 10 but the option is there. Here is a link to the full article.

Free Windows 10 Extended Security Updates are now yours to claim — but there's a catch
 
MarkinPhx said:
Microsoft is offering extended free security updates for Windows 10 users for another year but there is a catch.

"In order to receive Windows 10 security updates for free for one year, people will have to sync their PC settings data to the cloud by using a Microsoft account"


I don't think I would take that offer if I was still using Windows 10 but the option is there. Here is a link to the full article.

Free Windows 10 Extended Security Updates are now yours to claim — but there's a catch
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There's always a catch, isn't there. I'll pass.
 
MarkinPhx said:
Microsoft is offering extended free security updates for Windows 10 users for another year but there is a catch.

"In order to receive Windows 10 security updates for free for one year, people will have to sync their PC settings data to the cloud by using a Microsoft account"

I don't think I would take that offer if I was still using Windows 10 but the option is there. Here is a link to the full article.

Free Windows 10 Extended Security Updates are now yours to claim — but there's a catch
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Microsoft once forced an upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, on the desktop I had at the time, while I was eating dinner.

So I put back 7 by an UNDO that they offered.
 
Linux is not for everyone.

But I have seen failed installs of windows, devices and equipment without proper windows drivers, software programs that just don't work correctly and all that stuff.

What I don't understand is that people will give up on Linux for those same reasons, but it's acceptable for Windows?

Am I missing something here? Is it about being in your comfort zone? All of these same persistant Windows users were willing to learn Apple and Android with the age of smartphones, often way out of their comfort zones. But they kept trying until they figured it out. Why doesn't Linux get the same effort?
 
l was told by Microsoft that my HP computer wouldn't work with Window ll and l have to buy a new one. it's an expensive one and designed to play good sound[ng music.

l find that to be a lot of nerve from Microsoft along with an uppity attitude.
 
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One of my favorites laptops is a huge 17.5 HP still running Win10 (came with win 7 in 2010). It's a dual operating system beast.
 
outlander said:
Am I missing something here? Is it about being in your comfort zone? All of these same persistant Windows users were willing to learn Apple and Android with the age of smartphones, often way out of their comfort zones. But they kept trying until they figured it out. Why doesn't Linux get the same effort?
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I haven't seriously considered moving to Linux, but out of curiosity, I researched my specific Gateway laptop model today, and found this:

"While Gateway laptops generally have some level of Linux compatibility, specific issues have been reported with certain Gateway models, making them experience compatibility problems with essential components when running Linux distributions like Ubuntu. Linux supports a wide range of hardware, but some devices might have limited or no Linux support."
 
I have a Windows 10 tower that's not able to run 11 but I'm planning on keeping it. In 2019 I made the switch to a Chromebook along with getting an Android phone. I'll just use the Windows 10 tower off line, hopefully someday for recording music again.
 

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