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  • Pfizer, one of the world's largest 'big pharma' brands, expects to bring in up to $102 billion in revenue in 2022 - 😮 a new record.
  • The company's revenue in Q4 doubled in 2021 when compared to the previous year, with vaccine sales alone accounting for half of earnings.
  • Pfizer expects to bring in $32 billion in 2022 off of vaccine sales alone as company hopes to continue booster campaign.
  • Paxlovid, the company's new antiviral Covid pill, is expected to bring in $22 billion in revenue as well.
  • And that's just one pharma company... Always follow the money. :mad::mad:
 

CNN Medical Expert Actually Says It Out Loud: 'The Science Has Changed'​

Dr. Leana Wen, former head of Planned Parenthood turned CNN medical analyst, told anchor John Berman on Monday the reason why now is a good time for COVID-19 restrictions to be rolled back is because "the science has changed."

Science changed but i thought it was settled and Fauci has not come out to tell us........ read a few articles on this Dr Wen never said what changed ... my guess is the sentiment that Changed and they cannot keep the same old ..."cause we said so " going.
 
Yup, I'm sure that Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J have all padded their profits by supplying these Covid vaccines. However, comparing the costs of these vaccines....to the costs of the hospitalizations they have prevented....likely makes these vaccines a real bargain. It appears that the costs of one of these shots is in the neighborhood of $25. Compare that to the thousands of dollars a victim of Covid will run up in just a few days in a hospital.
 
Jeni said:

CNN Medical Expert Actually Says It Out Loud: 'The Science Has Changed'​

Dr. Leana Wen, former head of Planned Parenthood turned CNN medical analyst, told anchor John Berman on Monday the reason why now is a good time for COVID-19 restrictions to be rolled back is because "the science has changed."

Science changed but i thought it was settled and Fauci has not come out to tell us........ read a few articles on this Dr Wen never said what changed ... my guess is the sentiment that Changed and they cannot keep the same old ..."cause we said so " going.
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I sympathize with your point of view, but there was also a poor choice of words on the part of the medical expert. Having been a scientist myself for 54 years (in a much different field), when a large amount of data has been accumulated, doctors and scientists and computers review and analyze it thoroughly. It may take a while, but eventually a qualified conclusion can be reached, which is never 100% accurate and may still have a minority of opinions who disagree. Fast forward a year or two, and an even larger set of data has been accumulated. The review and analysis may now lead to a somewhat different conclusion, again with differing viewpoints and interpretations. I would say that the COVID-19 data that has been compiled over more than 3 years, worldwide, is probably one of the largest data sets ever. Also recall that everyone who gets the disease can have much different reactions. Two data points are meaningless; several hundred million can lead to some answers. The science hasn't changed, but a larger data set over an extended period of time has been compiled and a new qualified conclusion reached. Hope that makes sense?
 
Don M. said:
Yup, I'm sure that Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J have all padded their profits by supplying these Covid vaccines. However, comparing the costs of these vaccines....to the costs of the hospitalizations they have prevented....likely makes these vaccines a real bargain. It appears that the costs of one of these shots is in the neighborhood of $25. Compare that to the thousands of dollars a victim of Covid will run up in just a few days in a hospital.
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Excellent point as usual, thanks. Of course pharmaceutical companies are going to earn higher profits during a deadly worldwide pandemic, what is so hard about that for some people to understand? Sounds to me like the Covid deniers and anti-vaxxers are just hungry to complain about another nothingburger. 🤡
 
suds00 said:
that's capitalism. if you make a product which saves lives you'll make a profit.
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All for-profit corporations are in it for the profit, be it big pharma or other. Coca-Cola and Pepsi both manufacture soda products that often contribute to obesity and many health issues because of the high sugar content of their beverage. Apple makes mega profit from the sale of their Apple products, often crushing the competition and monopolizing the market. Same goes for Amazon. I can go on with many other brands. But no one seems to go after them; only big pharma gets to be the whipping boy every single time.
 
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Don M. said:
Yup, I'm sure that Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J have all padded their profits by supplying these Covid vaccines. However, comparing the costs of these vaccines....to the costs of the hospitalizations they have prevented....likely makes these vaccines a real bargain. It appears that the costs of one of these shots is in the neighborhood of $25. Compare that to the thousands of dollars a victim of Covid will run up in just a few days in a hospital.
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Yeah, my son spent the $25 to get jabbed

Only cost for us was $2800 to have him cremated

Bargains are out there
 
Don M. said:
Yup, I'm sure that Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J have all padded their profits by supplying these Covid vaccines. However, comparing the costs of these vaccines....to the costs of the hospitalizations they have prevented....likely makes these vaccines a real bargain. It appears that the costs of one of these shots is in the neighborhood of $25. Compare that to the thousands of dollars a victim of Covid will run up in just a few days in a hospital.
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@Don M. The vaccine was made available to all US residents by the Federal government for $0. If one paid $25, the government subsidized a share of the cost.
 
MMinSoCal said:
@Don M. The vaccine was made available to all US residents by the Federal government for $0. If one paid $25, the government subsidized a share of the cost.
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Yes, the vaccines Are free to the recipients....the government is covering the costs to the drug companies. I mentioned the $25 cost....to the government...as being quite low, compared to the costs of most other prescription drugs....and a Small Fraction of what the hospitalization costs are to those who get ill from this virus.
 
Jeni said:

CNN Medical Expert Actually Says It Out Loud: 'The Science Has Changed'​

Dr. Leana Wen, former head of Planned Parenthood turned CNN medical analyst, told anchor John Berman on Monday the reason why now is a good time for COVID-19 restrictions to be rolled back is because "the science has changed."

Science changed but i thought it was settled and Fauci has not come out to tell us........ read a few articles on this Dr Wen never said what changed ... my guess is the sentiment that Changed and they cannot keep the same old ..."cause we said so " going.
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In that conversation I think Dr Wen just tossed out what's basically become a hashtag, the science has changed. When it was originally used, that person (don't remember who) meant that science had devolved into more a group-think field than a field open to different approaches, directions, and possibilities.

In my opinion, that's been an issue going way back to ancient times when a scientist could literally be burned alive for some outlandish idea, like that the earth orbited the sun and not vice-versa.
 
MMinSoCal said:
Was the Moderna vaccine the cause of death, according to the autopsy?
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No autopsy
He was physically healthy as a horse
He was, however, on some heavy duty meds for his schizophrenia
Moderna and I had some chats

Bottom line, those vaxxes are experimental, and should have never been released before proper testing

No more questions

I need to hit the heavy bag for awhile
 
win231 said:
How 'bout if the product does not save over 900,000 lives?
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Had these vaccines not been developed, and rushed into production, the U.S. death toll would have probably been in the multiple millions by now. The overwhelming number of those who have died were either Not vaccinated, or had other health issues that contributed to their deaths.

https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/8/10/22618163/covid-deaths-vaccinated-data-how-many-die

The above reference is just one of many that can be found which demonstrates the value of getting vaccinated.
 
Don M. said:
Had these vaccines not been developed, and rushed into production, the U.S. death toll would have probably been in the multiple millions by now. The overwhelming number of those who have died were either Not vaccinated, or had other health issues that contributed to their deaths.

https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/8/10/22618163/covid-deaths-vaccinated-data-how-many-die

The above reference is just one of many that can be found which demonstrates the value of getting vaccinated.
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I wouldn't expect the CDC to say anything different.
We can't expect them to say, "The vaccines we've been pushing on everyone aren't doing much." 😊
 
Devi said:
I should add that neither my husband nor I got seriously ill at all. Just toughed it out. Doctor said it was a "virus"; didn't seem surprised at all and knew immediately what it was, and suggested we just take Mucinex (over the counter) for phlegm. That's all.
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There was many of us like you that had it before ... vaccines and rampant testing and survived.
part of the reason i have been so disgusted ...........by the medias fear push
especially after vaccines came out to make it seem as if every person was headed to hospitals and soon will die .... even if they knew the percentage of those folks was low and often people had other issues.
unless a person runs out to get the vaccine ASAP.
 

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