You have more to fear from a sovereign citizen than from ISIS!

:D Well, it is neat and clean--and colorful!
 

GeneMO said:
Debby, lets settle it this way. Everyone here in the States that is worried about all us gun nuts, can move to Canada where it is safe.

I think it was Ben Franklin that stated: Those who would sacrifice their freedom for temporary safety, deserve neither, and will surely loose both.

I didn't put that in quotes cause from memory I am not sure of the exact wording.

The US is not perfect, but lots of people from all over the world are trying everything to get here.

Gene
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Why do you sound like you are insisting that I am saying take all the guns away? Did I say that? No.

I said that everyone who wants to own a gun should be required to undergo safety training as well as criminal checks and someone should be making sure that lunatics aren't getting hold of guns. I realize that the last is a 'hide-able' problem or that it is subject to change, but at least if mental stability was a requirement at the onset, some people who shouldn't be allowed to arm themselves due to mental issues might, just might not be able to get hold of weapons that can cause death. That wouldn't stop you from having all the guns you want, but your lunatic neighbour (if you had one) who has no criminal record wouldn't be able to waltz in to any gun shop and arm himself to take out his family. Why is that so hard to understand?

The fact that lots of people are trying to get to the USA, only says that where many are coming from is far worse.
 

Debby said:
Why do you sound like you are insisting that I am saying take all the guns away? Did I say that? No.

I said that everyone who wants to own a gun should be required to undergo safety training as well as criminal checks and someone should be making sure that lunatics aren't getting hold of guns. I realize that the last is a 'hide-able' problem or that it is subject to change, but at least if mental stability was a requirement at the onset, some people who shouldn't be allowed to arm themselves due to mental issues might, just might not be able to get hold of weapons that can cause death. That wouldn't stop you from having all the guns you want, but your lunatic neighbour (if you had one) who has no criminal record wouldn't be able to waltz in to any gun shop and arm himself to take out his family. Why is that so hard to understand?

The fact that lots of people are trying to get to the USA, only says that where many are coming from is far worse.
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You started your sentence "Everyone who wants to own a gun should be required.....It's that that point they stop listening and their hair starts on fire..
 
Butterfly said:
Those evil gypsies struck here, too -- darn those gypsies! Especially the ones in leaky rowboats.
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hee-hee!It had to be a joke, and one that has now been explained. With so many excuses though as to how your guns have gone missing, you must expect flying visit from Mulder and Scully to check out your premises and your very weird story.:cool:
 
All this has been covered in the guns post or at other times, there seems to be a density problem. A short summary will be given again. When I was a kid in school there was a girl who never listened, teacher had to tell her so many times I used to mouth her words.

the definition of criminal is someone who does't follow the law.
getting a gun is 10'times more restrictive than getting a driver lic.

all gun purchases require a signed BATF form 4377 and any no answer nixs the deal. (Includes mental history)
then the Federsl gun center is called to see if the person is wanted nixes the deal
CCW permit requires safety, legal classes

does not stop somebody with a forged drivers lic.
feds drop the ball about a hundred times a day because of the volume of purchases

Mounties let me with a boat lode of guns after traditional fist bumps, and what's up man.
 
oakapple said:
hee-hee!It had to be a joke, and one that has now been explained. With so many excuses though as to how your guns have gone missing, you must expect flying visit from Mulder and Scully to check out your premises and your very weird story.:cool:
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nope they get patted down, are warned to keep their hands in sight
 
Some historical info may help.



The "health issues" involved with firearms possession has only become an issue within the last 5 years, as anti gun folks lost the 2nd ammendment issue under SCOTUS see Heller. This gains it's impetus from Obama's anti gun platform and his previous position at the Joyce foundation. Obama has and will continue trying to make gun violence a health issue and place it under CDC control. This is the basis of gun registration complaints by pro gun folks. Current registration information can only be kept for 48 hours. Obama and Holder want a permanent data base of gun owners accessible by everyone from used car dealers to the local newspaper, in exactly the same manner as sex offenders. This is what the antis are not telling you. Can you see why pro gun people get an adrenaline rush? This would require gun owners to re-register all their guns from some 50 years ago, with absolutely no change in crime rates. It ain't gonna happen and the reason why there are so many gypsies running around.
Molon Labe.
this motive is one of reasons for the large political losses suffered by one of the parties who use this forum as a party platform, and the changes sweeping the US at the state level regarding gun laws and will continue into the next election. Some of these reversals have occurred, some are in the courts, so it is a continuing process.
 
rt3 said:
Some historical info may help.



The "health issues" involved with firearms possession has only become an issue within the last 5 years, as anti gun folks lost the 2nd ammendment issue under SCOTUS see Heller. This gains it's impetus from Obama's anti gun platform and his previous position at the Joyce foundation. Obama has and will continue trying to make gun violence a health issue and place it under CDC control. This is the basis of gun registration complaints by pro gun folks. Current registration information can only be kept for 48 hours. Obama and Holder want a permanent data base of gun owners accessible by everyone from used car dealers to the local newspaper, in exactly the same manner as sex offenders. This is what the antis are not telling you. Can you see why pro gun people get an adrenaline rush? This would require gun owners to re-register all their guns from some 50 years ago, with absolutely no change in crime rates. It ain't gonna happen and the reason why there are so many gypsies running around.
Molon Labe.
this motive is one of reasons for the large political losses suffered by one of the parties who use this forum as a party platform, and the changes sweeping the US at the state level regarding gun laws and will continue into the next election. Some of these reversals have occurred, some are in the courts, so it is a continuing process.
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Can you spell P A R A N O I A ???
 
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(Reuters) - Shopping mall operators need to increase security through more staff, cameras and other techniques in light of threats made against the Mall of America in Minnesota and other shopping centers by Somali-based Islamist militants this week, outgoing U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said.
"I certainly think we have to step up our sensitivities to what goes on in these commercial enterprises," Holder said in an interview with CNN that aired on Friday. "It would be the responsible thing for operators of these malls to increase their capabilities when it comes to keeping people safe who are just going about their everyday lives."
In a separate interview with Politico, also published on Friday, Holder said he would push in his final weeks in office to lower the standard of proof for civil-rights offenses that would make it easier for the federal government to bring charges in future cases.
The Justice Department recently closed its investigation into the shooting of Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black teenager, without filing charges against gunman George Zimmerman because of "insufficient evidence."
"I think that if we adjust those standards, we can make the federal government a better backstop - make us more a part of the process in an appropriate way to reassure the American people that decisions are made by people who are really disinterested," he told Politico.
The Senate is expected to confirm Loretta Lynch, his successor, next month.
 
rt3 said:
democrat
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I wouldn't think so rt....... We aren't inclined to look for the black helicopters landing on our lawn coming to take our guns... AND we don't have to hallucinate about gypsies..

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It's ok, though it's part of the control profile
 

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