What I love most about America...? by FAR... The People !

I noticed this in Pam's link.....

Not every country allow double citizenship, most European countries ask you to choose and keep only one citizenship

I have a 12 month old grandson born in Belgium, his mother is French and father is English, he is allowed to have both a French and British passport but must wait until he is 18 before he can apply for citizenship of Belgium.
 

Australians are allowed dual citizenship but if someone wants to stand for parliament he/she must renounce any foreign citizenship before being elected. A couple of British citizens have been caught out by this rule. Either they never bothered to take out Australian citizenship or they had dual citizenship.
 
About as close to Australia as I'll get it what my son told me. He has been there and New Zealand on trips from his job at NSA.
He said that they are both beautiful places and the people are fantastic. In fact. He wants to go back at some point in his life. It sounds like a place I would love to visit but it will be only in my dreams.
i love my country, as screwed up as it is, and would never give an opinion about something I know nothing about until I was able to see for myself.
This is a great forum and to be able to communicate with folks all over the world is amazing to this old guy.
 
nwlady said:
I love America too, and it is the wonderful people that make it up. Luckily, I don't think "a few bad apples" will spoil America, although it seems they try don't they:) There have been may jabs against America and her people online, as well as on our forum but they can't bring America or her people down, only if we let them;) I admire you for speaking up. From another who loves America, Denise;) PS What is especially hard is people that live in America and seem to find pleasure in griping about things, but if it were found out, I think we would find they rarely ever "try" to make it better;)
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"A few bad apples!!" Where have you been hiding lady? People who love America have tried and tried to make it better but have been taken to task by the big corporations and Congress nay sayers and blue dogs. Can't say much for the tea party group because last I heard they are fading into the background somewhat.

You are darned right people should gripe about "things" that aren't right in America. What should we do sit and twidle our thumbs and watch someone else "try to make it better"? I'm an old lady and have seen what the right sort of "griping" and hollering and writing to the right people can accomplish.
 
Bee said:
THE BRITISH TAKE IT AS AN INSULT IF YOU DO THE SAME IN THE UK.

Isn't that exactly what the Americans do?????
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I don't take it as an insult when Americans gripe about America, I gripe about America, but I better be ready to do something about the problem if I'm going to complain. If someone hasn't walked in my shoes, they don't know what it is like, and can yack all day but they don't know anything. It's the same for a country, until we have lived in a country, we don't really know much, although some seem to think so.
 
Ruthi said:
"A few bad apples!!" Where have you been hiding lady? People who love America have tried and tried to make it better but have been taken to task by the big corporations and Congress nay sayers and blue dogs. Can't say much for the tea party group because last I heard they are fading into the background somewhat.

You are darned right people should gripe about "things" that aren't right in America. What should we do sit and twidle our thumbs and watch someone else "try to make it better"? I'm an old lady and have seen what the right sort of "griping" and hollering and writing to the right people can accomplish.
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I'm not hiding anywhere, what are you, talking numbers of bad people in America? Well whatever, but I choose to believe we have many more good folks than bad. So comparatively speaking, yes, a few bad apples. Our country has always had it's struggles, I'm not sure where you are coming from, but I mentioned somewhere that being "great" has it's price, always someone wanting to knock you down. For me personally, struggles have made me stronger, I think the same for America.
 
Pam said:
If I find fault with my country then I will try and do something and so will a lot of British people. But it is only human nature to go on the defensive when someone from another country finds fault. In the same way as most Americans would go on the defensive when outsiders criticise the US.

As for our NHS, we do have a choice here. If you don't like it/unhappy with it then you can always pay to go privately as a one off treatment or you can pay into a private healthcare scheme such as BUPA.
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Thanks Pam, I enjoy reading what you have to say. I'm much more inclined to discuss anything with someone that has good, people skills;) Denise
 
Dame Warrigal said:
Sorry NWLady. I completely stuffed up the directions.
Austria is south east of Germany. Australia is SW of the USA, across the Pacific.
We were both being so ironic we got completely bamboozled.
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LOL, just saw this;) I've always known where Australia is, it's those itti bitti countries that pop up in conversation, the ones I've never heard of! There are a lot of countries on this ole dirt-clod hurtling through space;)
 
That's the trouble with irony, isn't it? It can be confusing.
For a moment I thought you might have been one of the people who confuse Australia with Austria.
But that's a whole other thread.
 
nwlady said:
I don't take it as an insult when Americans gripe about America, I gripe about America, but I better be ready to do something about the problem if I'm going to complain. If someone hasn't walked in my shoes, they don't know what it is like, and can yack all day but they don't know anything. It's the same for a country, until we have lived in a country, we don't really know much, although some seem to think so.
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Another misunderstanding.............if I as a British citizen was living in America and criticised it, would you or would you not be defensive and take it as an insult????

Pam and myself were more or less saying the same thing but worded differently.
 
We all complain about America sometimes, but it's usually related to the politicians in power and their actions (or non-actions). No matter how bad things appear to be sometimes, I'd never want to live out my days anywhere else in the world. I don't take it personally if Americans gripe about the US...if I ask where they would prefer to live, they usually have no other choice.
 
Bee said:
Another misunderstanding.............if I as a British citizen was living in America and criticised it, would you or would you not be defensive and take it as an insult????

Pam and myself were more or less saying the same thing but worded differently.
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If that person has dual-citizenship, they have the right to complain, like any other citizen. I believe Elizabeth has dual citizenship?? Again, if a citizen is going to complain, they can either move or do what they can (vote, whatever). Am I missing something here, because I don't see where I misunderstood anything? Denise

PS I find Americans that complain would still NEVER think of giving up their citizenship;) It's kind of like complaining about your children, but you would kill for them. And no one else better come against them, know what I'm saying?
 
nwlady said:
If that person has dual-citizenship, they have the right to complain, like any other citizen. I believe Elizabeth has dual citizenship?? Again, if a citizen is going to complain, they can either move or do what they can (vote, whatever). Am I missing something here, because I don't see where I misunderstood anything? Denise

PS I find Americans that complain would still NEVER think of giving up their citizenship;) It's kind of like complaining about your children, but you would kill for them. And no one else better come against them, know what I'm saying?
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No I don't know what you are saying and I don't care whether a person has dual citizenship or not, as far as I am concerned Elyzabeth is a guest in my country and as such I do not expect her to criticise things here, especially the voting system when it is clear she does not understand it.

As I said in another post if Elyzabeth doesn't like things here...............the answer is in her hands.

Just before I go, are you saying it is ok for Elyzabeth to say.................AND I'm So tired of hearing anti American sentiments !...........but it is NOT ok for the British to say it in reverse.?????

Anyway I am out of this now because it is very clear to me that the majority of the posts on here just do not understand where the British posters are coming from.
 
Well I've read all this, and it's absolutely natural for everyone to defend their own country IMO...thank God they are patriotic, even if we can see the faults in our own countries and may even wish at times to live in another country


I can understand Elyzabeths' feelings about hearing anti American rhetoric sometimes...but it happens everywhere about every nationality.

We in the UK might make generalized comments about Americans....just as Americans do about the British...some will be right and some will be totally off the mark..

On the whole in the UK do have a much better relationship with Americans and Australians than we perhaps do even with some Europeans or Asians

However I have to agree with Bee, and all my other country folk with regard to the OP ....there is a school of thought...when in Rome don't bite the hand that feeds you...well not publicly anyway.:)
 
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Time to call a truce, I think. I also think that with the traditions of free and frank speech we all enjoy in the Anglosphere, there is no need to be upset by anything someone else says on line.

I will continue to make observations about any country on this planet. I will try to be polite but I won't be coerced into silence. Nor should anyone else. Let's not start a shooting war over a bit of criticism. We're all supposed to be friends and allies.
 
Dame Warrigal said:
Time to call a truce, I think. I also think that with the traditions of free and frank speech we all enjoy in the Anglosphere, there is no need to be upset by anything someone else says on line.

I will continue to make observations about any country on this planet. I will try to be polite but I won't be coerced into silence. Nor should anyone else. Let's not start a shooting war over a bit of criticism. We're all supposed to be friends and allies.
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Too true Warrigal... I agree :) but it's good that it can be discussed
 
At the risk of introducing another red herring, I'm intrigued by this statement.
As I understand it, if I were to apply for US citizenship I would have to renounce my Australian citizenship.
I understand this is what Rupert Murdoch did. I may be wrong, of course.

Are you telling me that an American citizen can take out citizenship of a foreign country and still retain US citizenship?
Is this a recent development or has it always been this way?

I don't know about any "foreign country"?


You are permitted to have dual citizenship in both the US and UK.
Not easy , but it can be done.
 
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