It sounds like we will be losing power for a few days

And this is the kind of thing that PG&E is trying to avoid. This is the Coffey Park neighborhood of Santa Rosa. Total devastation. And I heard on the news last night that only 10% have been able to rebuild as of now,two years later. Many of their insurance companies are now refusing to pay for living expenses any longer-even though the people are still having to make mortgage payments on their lots. It`s been a nightmare for so many.Coffey Park.jpg
 

What the power company is saying is no excuse to leave people without power, this is like leaving people without water and expect people to figure it out especially this is just criminal action and they’re disguising it as a way to protect people it is wrong. If you can get out of that state as soon as you can please do so. It’s scary to think that the North Korean people are also subjected to this power outage requirement the comparison is scary.
 
You are correct. In fact,the Santa Rosa fire started 2 years ago today. And yes,it was a devastating fire as far as homes lost. The hospital where my husband had his knee replaced a few weeks ago was brand new at the time and came so close to being lost. They had to evacuate patients with flames all around them. PG&E was blamed for that fire,but it turned out that it started on a woman`s property that was not served by PG&E. She had some private company.

We may look into a generator for next year but I`m not sure. I don`t really feel comfortable with storing fuel here. We`ll see.

The last time we were without power was when we were evacuated,so the only downside was what we lost in the freezer and insurance covered that.


"She had a private company"

There are some smaller...private? companies trying to get a foot-hold here in providing utilities, I hope they never do. We have Duke, Cinergy, before that & Cincinnati gas & Electric before that. I know some fear a monopoly in utilities , but this is one area where safety is so paramount, that the proven should prevail...........jmo
 

Do you have a well and this is why you need electric to get water? Utilities operate under laws of a state’s utility commission. Here in PA, we gave the PUC, or Public Utilities Commission. You may want to give them a call and check if PG&E are operating within their legal rights. In PA, if a household has a child under the age of 1 or elderly with health issues, the electric company must assist with finding the family an alternate place to stay for the short term, including a hotel.

You may want to also check with your homeowners policy and see if you can seek alternate housing, such as a kitchenette st their expense.

You could always take a vacation.
 
Do you have a well and this is why you need electric to get water? Utilities operate under laws of a state’s utility commission. Here in PA, we gave the PUC, or Public Utilities Commission. You may want to give them a call and check if PG&E are operating within their legal rights. In PA, if a household has a child under the age of 1 or elderly with health issues, the electric company must assist with finding the family an alternate place to stay for the short term, including a hotel.

You may want to also check with your homeowners policy and see if you can seek alternate housing, such as a kitchenette st their expense.

You could always take a vacation.

Yes,we are on a well and it is our only water source. We could go stay with our kids but they will not have power either from the sounds of it. One daughter may not be affected but that would mean leaving our animals here alone,with no one to make sure their water bowls are refilled and the possibility of a fire and no one to get them out. So we will just ride it out.
 
Huh?? "Plan for medical needs like medications that require refrigeration or devices that need power. " That sounds nice, but what the hell are you supposed to do? Say that you have insulin that needs to be refrigerated. The power is out for miles around. What do people do? Drive to a someplace that has power and get a motel room?
 
Yes,we are on a well and it is our only water source. We could go stay with our kids but they will not have power either from the sounds of it. One daughter may not be affected but that would mean leaving our animals here alone,with no one to make sure their water bowls are refilled and the possibility of a fire and no one to get them out. So we will just ride it out.

I understand your concern with your animals, but 5 days is a long time to go without water, or electric for that matter. Do you have any options at all? Is purchasing or renting a generator out of the question?

I never heard of a utility company voluntarily shutting down their livelihood and leaving their customers high and dry. They may have an ulterior motive, like charging their loss to their insurance company or writing off the lost profits against their income to lower their taxes.
 
I understand your concern with your animals, but 5 days is a long time to go without water, or electric for that matter. Do you have any options at all? Is purchasing or renting a generator out of the question?

I never heard of a utility company voluntarily shutting down their livelihood and leaving their customers high and dry. They may have an ulterior motive, like charging their loss to their insurance company or writing off the lost profits against their income to lower their taxes.
I think they got sued last year for not maintaining the lines, (which requires shutdown) resulting in at least one huge fire.

People want to live in beautiful CA, they have to realize the climate isn't so friendly all the time. Those lines must be maintained.
 
I think they got sued last year for not maintaining the lines, (which requires shutdown) resulting in at least one huge fire.

People want to live in beautiful CA, they have to realize the climate isn't so friendly all the time. Those lines must be maintained.
Exactly true, RR. Several months ago PG & E was in the headlines advising that exactly these steps would be taken when fire danger and Santa Ana winds arrive in their area.
 
All the lines have to be checked for needed repairs before they can repower. I mostly worry about the animals-they drink A LOT of water when it`s this hot.

Sounds like they've been remiss in performing their maintenance. What do they think this is? A third world country?

If I were Dictator I would call a meeting of the board of directors and the top tier of management. Then I'd have them count off by number, 1,2,1,2,1,2 etc. Then I'd have all the 2's summarily executed. I'll bet they would make sure they kept up with their line maintenance after that.

I would love being Dictator! :)
 
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What the power company is saying is no excuse to leave people without power, this is like leaving people without water and expect people to figure it out especially this is just criminal action and they’re disguising it as a way to protect people it is wrong. If you can get out of that state as soon as you can please do so. It’s scary to think that the North Korean people are also subjected to this power outage requirement the comparison is scary.

It is. ... It all sounds so 3rd world to me too ... Just hard to believe this is going on in our country.
 
Another huge fire out there I heard was started by a truck that blew a tire on the freeway. When in went down on it's rim, sparks flew and ignited the dry forests- devastation. Lightening strikes, careless humans, arson...all of it..


There's too many people there. It's not a given that anyplace we feel like overrunning will safely support us.
 
Another huge fire out there I heard was started by a truck that blew a tire on the freeway. When in went down on it's rim, sparks flew and ignited the dry forests- devastation. Lightening strikes, careless humans, arson...all of it..


There's too many people there. It's not a given that anyplace we feel like overrunning will safely support us.
Then they need to stop building but they shouldn’t be turning the power off that’s wrong.
 
I would call the California PUC and ask them if what PG&E is proposing is legal, which it probably is, so then I would ask them if you were me in my situation, what would you do or propose that I do?
 
Or build sensibly. https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-build-fireproof-homes-2019-3 Still couldn't stay while the fires rage, but would have something to come home to.
There’s much more to the story on PG&E that is currently being discussed on this site. Their intentions are not honorable. They have run out of money and now they’re forced to turn the power off due to irresponsible and dishonorable behavior from the government and the electric company. The people still need power and the responsible entities should quickly work towards a solution together without depriving the population of an essential need for living. That is the end of my discussion on this issue.
 
There’s much more to the story on PG&E that is currently being discussed on this site. Their intentions are not honorable. They have run out of money and now they’re forced to turn the power off due to irresponsible and dishonorable behavior from the government and the electric company. The people still need power and the responsible entities should quickly work towards a solution together without depriving the population of an essential need for living. That is the end of my discussion on this issue.
Sorry about my ending on this posting, it was a tad abrupt. ☺️
 
I guess there are things going on with the government and PG&E I know nothing about. I do wonder what the government has to do with anything here, or if it should be involved at all.

Given my limited information on this subject, I will also bow out and just read and learn.
 
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This Fire Watch Event is happening in Northern CA from 10/9 Wed 5a thru 10/10 Thurs 5p. During this time it is forecasted that the highest winds of the year will happen due to the collision between a low front moving out and a high front coming in.

The juxtaposition of the differing air pressures/temps creates a "wind alley" effect. It is these high gusty winds that can create firestorms when the surrounding landscape is dried out (our rains don't start until November, usually). Because so much of Northern CA is not only hilly/mountainous, but also forest and parkland, when a fire starts from a downed or damaged power line, it can spread extremely fast and be very difficult to reach.

Although CA's fire incidents gather the most press, consensus by experts is that all over the country, more and more people are building homes in what is called Wilderness-Urban Interface areas. They are attractive due to a lower cost of living and semi-rural surroundings while still being near major conveniences such as shopping and medical care - but on the downside, they are very vulnerable to natural disasters such as fires and floods.

We live 123 miles south of Mrs. Robinson in the city of Oakland CA. This is the first time in 30 years we have been advised, as she was, that our utilities may be shut off tomorrow. This is not because we are in an area in danger of burning - in fact, we're pretty much surrounded by concrete (a school and two freeways) but because our district includes part of the much more heavily-treed Oakland hills above us, where the fire danger is very, very high.

Despite being heavily settled, the Berkeley/Oakland hills are almost all laid out in winding, narrow roadways, with many dead end streets. It is often described as "a fire marshall's nightmare" - thousands of homes with million-dollar Bay views on streets so narrow and curvy that many times firetrucks cannot even access the street because their trucks will not fit.

Yes, there are now home designs that are highly fire-resistant. However, one recent study showed that the additional cost for doing so would almost double the cost of the house. Not many people burned out would be able to come up with that kind of additional funding out of their own pockets. I would think it's difficult if not impossible to obtain fire insurance for more than the appraised value of the house! This is especially true in CA, where the land is worth 95+% of the total price.
 


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