What the hell has the United States done?

But Santa Anna was not his name. It is where he came from. His real name was Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna.

As to cross dressing, I can't verify this item but it does make sense to me.

Santa Anna was not a crossdresser, at least that anybody knows of. He was wearing silk underwear when he was captured, but they were a men's cut, so he was not crossdressing. What gave him away is that he was trying to disguise himself as a "commoner" and silk underwear at the time was only an item that very wealthy men wore. He was searched and his underwear is what gave him away.
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Here are the facts. After the Battle of San Jacinto the Texans captured many Mexicans, and among them was Santa Anna.

Not wishing to be discovered, Santa Anna took off his ornate uniform. Nobody knew who Santa Anna was, but the Texans knew that Santa Anna like to wear silken underwear (men's, not women's). There was one prisoner wearing silken underwear whom one of the Mexicans saluted and called El Presidente. The Texans put two and two together, and they knew they had their man. He wasn't wearing women's clothing, just fancy (men's) silk drawers. Okay?
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The details are a bit different but neither suggests that he was dressed as a woman.
 

WhatInThe said:
In many areas of the country the legal and illegal immigrants take up a lot of entry level jobs in the retail and restaurant industry especially. Others take up general labor jobs. This has already happened many times with false documentation. I've met first generation immigrants who admitted being here illegally for years and others who probably are here illegally. Look at places like south Florida, New York, California, Texas etc.

I think there are political factions that don't care if these immigrants take legitimate jobs or not. They want them to continue to work under the table and off book. They also want a saturated job pool which will lower wages and make applicants and hirees very aggressive when it comes to getting and keeping their job. That's why there is a cry for amnesty from both sides of the aisle. Instead of hiring illegals many business will simply pay cash under the table. They only thing different is the employees residency status.

One of the first rule they teach rescuers like life guards is don't become a victim yourself. The US by letting an out of control number of immigrants in the country will not be able to save themselves. Things are so bad in Detroit which was/is a company/auto industry town they are asking the UN to pay it's citizens water bills. I don't know where to start with that one other than the citizens of Detroit deserve a job before an illegal immigrant does.
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One thing that would help this problem would be to crack down on the employers that hire illegals. Oh, BTW, illegals can not get welfare or medicaid, only those that are born on US soil, they are US citizens, like it or not.
 

Dame Warrigal said:
But Santa Anna was not his name. It is where he came from. His real name was Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna.

As to cross dressing, I can't verify this item but it does make sense to me.



And another version of the same thing



The details are a bit different but neither suggests that he was dressed as a woman.
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I don't know where the "quotes" came from but thanks for sharing. The other thing that might have given it away was the fact he had the undies on his head, but they only discovered that after his paper-bag fell off. Good information though!
 
The other thing that might have given it away was the fact he had the undies on his head, but they only discovered that after his paper-bag fell off.
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:lofl:Damn. Now I've got more homework to do.
Unless you have a reference that is more than a rumour ?
 
Dame Warrigal said:
:lofl:Damn. Now I've got more homework to do.
Unless you have a reference that is more than a rumour ?
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LOL, well, this is all part of "continuing education" at seniorforums. Also promoting brain-exercise, or altogether it equals the CBS program (continuing bs):coffeelaugh:
 
I am intrigued for two reasons. One, I know nothing about the battles and revolutions that took place in Texas and California, other than they resulted in territorial gains by the Americans, and two, because in Australia we have never had a revolution. A few minor revolts in the early days and a couple of rebellions, none of which were successful. I've heard of the Alamo but have had to look it up to learn what it was all about.

On this one I've even resorted to my ancient set of Encyclopaedia Britannica which is not too bad on historical topics.

I got this from a teaching resource ( http://teachinghistory.org/history-content/ask-a-historian/23741 ) under the heading "Remember the Alamo".


After the Alamo

On March 19, 1836, 90 miles to the southeast, at the Battle of Coleto, forces under General José de Urrea defeated the Texian garrison stationed nearby at the Presidio La Bahia at Goliad. Eight days later, the Mexicans massacred the Texan garrison of more than 350 they had taken as prisoner, including its commander, James Fannin.
Santa Anna was branded throughout Texas as bloodthirsty, and as a result, Houston's forces grew with outraged volunteers. Sam Houston and his newly formed army proceeded into east Texas, closely pursued by Santa Anna, whose divided forces clashed several times with Texans.

At San Jacinto, 250 miles east of the Alamo, the Texan forces turned on Santa Anna's overconfident army in a surprise attack during siesta time. The Mexican army was defeated in 20 minutes. Seven Texans were wounded and up to 300 Mexicans died.

In the confusion, Santa Anna attempted to escape by donning the uniform of a corporal and hiding in a marsh, but the Texans noticed that the "corporal" was wearing silk underwear and figured out his identity. Under a tree nearby, Houston and Santa Anna negotiated a treaty giving Texas its independence and Santa Anna was released.
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:giggle:Now you must explain the reference to underwear on his head under a paper bag.
I shan't sleep tonight unless you do. It's ten past midnight so I shall have to try.
 
Dame Warrigal said:
I am intrigued for two reasons. One, I know nothing about the battles and revolutions that took place in Texas and California, other than they resulted in territorial gains by the Americans, and two, because in Australia we have never had a revolution. A few minor revolts in the early days and a couple of rebellions, none of which were successful. I've heard of the Alamo but have had to look it up to learn what it was all about.

On this one I've even resorted to my ancient set of Encyclopaedia Britannica which is not too bad on historical topics.

I got this from a teaching resource ( http://teachinghistory.org/history-content/ask-a-historian/23741 ) under the heading "Remember the Alamo".




:giggle:Now you must explain the reference to underwear on his head under a paper bag.
I shan't sleep tonight unless you do. It's ten past midnight so I shall have to try.
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Ok, I don't want to be the cause of a sleepless night.

Maybe it's just an "American thing" but I'm sure the rest of the world wouldn't mind adopting the practice. We have what is called a 2-bagger, which I know more about than a 1-bagger (personal experience if you must know, not from Britannica). Now you folks that know more about this, chime in, I'll do my best here. But a 1-bagger is evidently when someone "likes" someone else, but that someone else, to them, isn't that easy on the eyes, so both parties agree to a bag over the unappealing head. Now the 2-bagger was created because the other person wasn't so great on the eyes either. There was a chance that the 1 bag may fall off during a roll-in-the-hay.

Hope this helps. Also, at our grocer, you still have the option for paper or plastic, so I always grab a couple paper to have on hand. Plastic was tried, but it was overloading our disposal sites, plus, people were suffocating, which kind of defeated the whole purpose. Besides, some plastic bags were found to be "see through":(
 
I think most people know that I really do like people. I hate the poverty in this world, I don't like how people can come into the country, work their butts off, but not be allowed to profit the same as citizens. If the US is going to allow the immigrants in, they need to allow them the whole deal. But where on Earth is common sense? I am NUTS about animals, for example, but for me to take in 10 animals to feed, provide medical attention etc., is ludicrous, as I can hardly keep a roof over my own head. How can I possibly help someone else, if I don't first provide something for myself that I CAN share with others?

I know there are a lot of things involved, things I don't understand, but where is the simple, common sense approach? I know a guy that lives in this house, is getting such good grades, they passed him on without even making him participate in finals, he couldn't achieve any more, at least that's what "he" said. But I am telling you, this guy hasn't a lick of common sense. What good is a degree hanging on the wall if you have no, common sense? Is that something that's taught? Born with it, or not? I would like to give a roof over some homeless person's head, I'd like to feed them a meal, or drop a 20 in their pocket, but I don't have it to give? Is this a picture of the US? I am not bad-mouthing my country, just those that we've allowed to "slither" into power? Now what do we do?
 
Jackie22, I live just up the road from a family of six that aren't shy of telling anyone that they not here legally. They get food stamps, medicaid, and wellfair of over a $1500. a month. None were born here, and the parents don't speak english, the children do most of their communications. I know of several families in our area alone that have been here for 15 or 20 years. :tapfoot:
 
Legal immigrants are required to have medical screening to ensure that they do not bring any contagious diseases into the United States. Illegal aliens are not screened and many are carrying horrific third world diseases that do not belong in the USA. Many of these diseases are highly contagious and will infect citizens that come in contact with an infected illegal alien. This has already happened in restaurants, schools, and police forces.

Malaria

Dengue

Leprosy -a scourge of Biblical days, is caused by a bacillus agent and is now know as Hansen's Disease. In the 40 years prior to 2002, there were only 900 total cases of leprosy in the US. In the following three years there have been 9,000 cases and most were illegal aliens.
Hepatitis A-E

Tuberculosis

Chagas Disease -(American Trypanosomiasis), endemic to South and Central America, is spread by infected triatomine bugs, known as the "kissing bugs," that bite people. It was unknown in the United States until fairly recently. It is now estimated that between 100,000 and 500,000 people in the US have Chagas Disease. Who is infected? Mostly illegal aliens.
Since Chagas Disease is basically unknown outside of the illegal alien community most doctors won't recognize it and the blood supply just started being screened for it. Most cases of Chagas Disease that occur in patients other than illegal aliens are thought to be contracted from tainted blood – blood sold by illegal aliens with Chagas Disease before the blood supply started being tested for it as of August of 2006.

HIV
 
I've been on the phone for about 1/2 an hour, and every, single agency I contacted answers not just in English, but in Spanish. I already knew this to be true in almost every type of service, or need I call about. This tells me "welcome" if I am Spanish, and I can find help here. I am still trying to get some assistance in both job-seeking, and rental assistance/transitional housing. Now, it would be interesting to know where I stand (in that line) compared to illegal, or legal immigrants.
 
nwlady said:
I've been on the phone for about 1/2 an hour, and every, single agency I contacted answers not just in English, but in Spanish. I already knew this to be true in almost every type of service, or need I call about. This tells me "welcome" if I am Spanish, and I can find help here. I am still trying to get some assistance in both job-seeking, and rental assistance/transitional housing. Now, it would be interesting to know where I stand (in that line) compared to illegal, or legal immigrants.
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try to look like him. you'll go right to the head of the line :sentimental:
 
kcvet said:
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try to look like him. you'll go right to the head of the line :sentimental:
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Badges?? We don' need no stinking badges?? No citizenship either I guess, but whose fault is that, I mean it's really not theirs is it, so I don't blame them, our system has indigestion, or dry-heaves, that's when you don't have anything else to give out but you're still barfing air:(
 
nwlady said:
Badges?? We don' need no stinking badges?? No citizenship either I guess, but whose fault is that, I mean it's really not theirs is it, so I don't blame them, our system has indigestion, or dry-heaves, that's when you don't have anything else to give out but you're still barfing air:(
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your right. and our system got him into Mexifornia

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It's ok for others, they are welcome, but not when we as citizens aren't getting jobs when we ARE qualified, AND willing to work. Just because I can't pick fruit, or carry 50 lbs, which is, by the way, on every application I've filled out for minimum wage jobs. I'm starting to think that I shouldn't even try to work, those not working seem to be doing better. I came across an article on how to get by without ever having to work, LOL, that's the internet for you!! Sorry but I ashamed of the Americans that are able to work but choose to draw money from the government instead. I have a good friend, that is over 70 and working her butt off:(

I just looked up a Summer job that was listed on Coolworks. It was for "Older and Bolder" seniors in other words, but you had to be able to get on your hands and knees and scrub floors. If you don't believe that, just look here: http://www.josmotel.com/jobs/

So because I can't do that job, someone else will get it. I'm just a bundle of joy today aren't I:mad:
 
Ina said:
Jackie22, I live just up the road from a family of six that aren't shy of telling anyone that they not here legally. They get food stamps, medicaid, and wellfair of over a $1500. a month. None were born here, and the parents don't speak english, the children do most of their communications. I know of several families in our area alone that have been here for 15 or 20 years. :tapfoot:
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Ina, you can not draw welfare, get food stamps or be on medicaid without being a US citizen and having a SS card....now if they lied or have a fake SS card they are scamming the system just like many others....ANYONE that does this is breaking the law. I have a neighbor that draws disability with the help of an expensive lawyer, lives in a $500,000 house and drives 2 brand new autos, wears $1000 boots and goes to Vegas 3 times a year, gets out and does all kinds of work......he is an old white dude that votes Republican and cusses the government.....look around they are everywhere and every color.
 
True Jackie, I guess they must have bogus ID's. Since my son died, we are looking to sell the second house on our property, and several Mexican families have approached me to sell dirrectly to them. At our age, I'm not willing to work a mortgage directly to anyone. Their kids alway tell me they can't apply for a mortgage, because they aren't citizens.
 
War, you got the correct skinny from your teacher's reference. All the other is made up to bolster uneducated egos.

By the way, there's nothing wrong with President Obama (the captal P on purpose). We always had conservatives and liberals, from the begining of time. Sometime one or the other party carried the name of wag or wig or something else, trying to make a comeback or deceive the people. It's not that liberals are different now, it's that conservatives are more easdily frightened. (he might come after your guns or something or your freedoms. Conservatives of old would have said hogwash and come back with a pretty good arguement. It's not the president one ought to fear but the congress. They have all the power and what they do can be overturned by the next or some other congress. Relax, smile, bury your guns. You'll be free of him in three years or so and you can elect your own wag.
 
drifter said:
War, you got the correct skinny from your teacher's reference. All the other is made up to bolster uneducated egos.

By the way, there's nothing wrong with President Obama (the captal P on purpose). We always had conservatives and liberals, from the begining of time. Sometime one or the other party carried the name of wag or wig or something else, trying to make a comeback or deceive the people. It's not that liberals are different now, it's that conservatives are more easdily frightened. (he might come after your guns or something or your freedoms. Conservatives of old would have said hogwash and come back with a pretty good arguement. It's not the president one ought to fear but the congress. They have all the power and what they do can be overturned by the next or some other congress. Relax, smile, bury your guns. You'll be free of him in three years or so and you can elect your own wag.
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Congress is angry with the President right now, for bypassing them. One instance is for trading 5 terrorists, for Bergdahl.
 
Misty said:
Congress is angry with the President right now, for bypassing them. One instance is for trading 5 terrorists, for Bergdahl.
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Thanks for this Misty, I would have believed "for a second or so" that congress had all the power, this proves it doesn't. Yeah, he has some power, fortunately the people still have it, if they all would stand up and claim it, just my thoughts. Even I throw up my arms in despair at times, but I hope I never give up trying;)
 
nwlady said:
Thanks for this Misty, I would have believed "for a second or so" that congress had all the power, this proves it doesn't. Yeah, he has some power, fortunately the people still have it, if they all would stand up and claim it, just my thoughts. Even I throw up my arms in despair at times, but I hope I never give up trying;)
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I agree, Denise...we can't give up...we are the employers, tho it can be hard to believe at times. :)
 

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