AWWWWWW..Thats a shame

Davey Jones

Davey Jones

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That poor guy...
This Friday, July 18, 2014 photo made available by the Volusia County Sheriff's Office, Fla. shows Raymond Frolander, 18. Police say a Daytona Beach father beat Frolander unconscious after finding him sexually abusing his son. Authorities say the father called 911 early Friday after he walked in on the alleged abuse. When officers arrived they found Frolander motionless on the living room floor. He had several knots on his face and was bleeding from the mouth. (AP Photo/Volusia County Sheriff's Office)

 

Im surprise nothing is broken on this guy,his ears dont look right in that picture either.Hope he loses some of his hearing.
 
I wouldn't agree with charging the father with assault for something like this Honey, providing this man was actually sexually abusing a child at the time.
 
That was a local news story here where I live.

The Daytona Beach Police Chief who is known to be very outspoken re: criminals, said the father would not be charged.

 
MrJim said:
That was a local news story here where I live.

The Daytona Beach Police Chief who is known to be very outspoken re: criminals, said the father would not be charged.
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Well, good!

I wasn't sure about the "climate" of Daytona Beach - I thought it would be just as messed up as most other places.

Totally agree with the Chief, and they should give the father a medal.
 
Beating the pervert up wasn't a good move. I have absolutely NO time for child abusers, they are evil, but the law should take its course in a civilised country not mob rule!
 
Justme said:
Beating the pervert up wasn't a good move. I have absolutely NO time for child abusers, they are evil, but the law should take its course in a civilised country not mob rule!
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Hardly mob rule is it ?, just a father giving his child's abuser a good hiding which he deserved, and remember this little boy has been sexually abused for the last 3 years, how long do you think it might have gone on before it could have been reported to the police in a his word against the abuser scenario?

Long live mob rule if it gets these twisted bar stewards put away where they belong nice and quickly!!
 
Honey said:
the trouble is, if that had happened in the UK the father would likely have been prosecuted too for assault!
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Update today local news.
After the investigation,the Father will not be charged.
Im thinking if that Father had a gun and killed this guy then that's a whole another story.


This part is interesting:
According to the charging affivadit, the 11-year-old victim told authorities that Frolander had performed oral sex on him and instructed the boy to fondle him. The document says the boy told authorities that Frolander began abusing him a few years ago.
 
hollydolly said:
Hardly mob rule is it ?, just a father giving his child's abuser a good hiding which he deserved, and remember this little boy has been sexually abused for the last 3 years, how long do you think it might have gone on before it could have been reported to the police in a his word against the abuser scenario?

Long live mob rule if it gets these twisted bar stewards put away where they belong nice and quickly!!
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What an uncivilised comment! :mad:
 
Holly, I agree with you. I can't imagine any good parent that wouldn't react the same way. What was he supposed to have done, set the pervert down and "Talk" to him? I don't know if I could have stopped as the father did. :dunno::crying:
 
SeaBreeze said:
I wouldn't agree with charging the father with assault for something like this Honey, providing this man was actually sexually abusing a child at the time.
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If nothing else he was stopping a sexual assault on a minor. And yes he literally caught the guy with his pants down.
 
Here's the thing... while no sane person would have any sympathy for the molester, & while I think just about anybody would agree he "deserved" to get beaten up, that does not mean the father should have done so. He could very easily have been charged with battery had he been in another town or jurisdiction. As much as we enjoy seeing people like him "get what's coming to them", it is still not any citizen's duty, or even the police's for that matter, to mete out punishment. That is for the courts & the courts alone. Technically, he could have & should have, detained the guy by whatever force was necesssry & waited for the police.

Now I'm under no illusions that the swaggering, chest-thumping, "let's get tough on everything & everybody who pisses us off" crowd will agree with me on any of that, but honestly, if that kind of thing were to become the norm, none of us would be safe, given the human penchant for error in such matters, especially in the heat of the moment when emotions are running high.

Also, there still remains the possibility that the molester could hire a personal injury attorney & sue the kid's father in civil court.
 
SeaBreeze said:
Not very civilized for a grown man to rape a child now is it? If I was the parent, the rapist would be dead, case closed! :mad:
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Yeah & you'd be in jail looking at a murder charge & slowly coming to the realization that maybe what you did wasn't the smartest move you could've made.

Then, even if the jury acquitted you, you'd be stuck with tens of thousands of dollars in legal bills.

Possibly lose your job & have to sell your house.

Etc., etc., etc.
 
Mr. Jim, I know you mean well, but I think the father did the right thing as far as the child was concerned. The child now knows that his father will protect him, and that in the future, he can trust that protection, and that is more important than the justice system's rights. What his father did will go a long way in helping the child understand that it wasn't his fault.
I wish someone had been there to help me see that I wasn't the cause of making those horrors happening to me. :hide:
 

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