Would you let him out? Bernie Madoff says he's dying and wants out of prison.

[Llynn]

It's amazing to me how many high viz criminal skunks walk into the courthouse healthy as a horse and then when the show is over, appear feeble and ill the next time they get public attention. It seems to take no time at all for them to need a wheel chair and someone to wipe their drool though before incarceration they were healthy enough to live it up like Wayne Newton.

 

[peppermint]

I did see this on TV today....I really don't know....If I'm nice, maybe if he has someone to live with he really can't bother anyone (he didn't kill anyone) that I know of....

 

[C'est Moi]

I did see this on TV today....I really don't know....If I'm nice, maybe if he has someone to live with he really can't bother anyone (he didn't kill anyone) that I know of....

Perhaps if he had stolen every penny you ever saved you'd feel differently. He destroyed lives without killing anyone.

 

[Manatee]

Let him out, he can pay for his own hospice/funeral.

 

[fmdog44]

It is pointless to say how much has been returned without showing how much went to who and how much did they lose compared to the amount returned. Also, after that POS stole from them what about the years of their lives going without their money especially those that lost their retirements money? Release him? Never. Be as heartless as he was and still is. It's called "justice".

 

[Butterfly]

I interject this only as food for thought; there are plenty of people who've ran health scams. It appears that he's got the resources to hire a high dollar lawyer from prison, why wouldn't he have the money to get the test results he wants? I also find it odd that he refuses dialysis.

Some people with end stage kidney failure do refuse dialysis because they know it will not affect the ultimate outcome and pretty much just prolongs the dying, just as some end stage cancer patients refuse further treatment for the same reason. My own mother refused further cancer treatments for this very reason.

 

[Butterfly]

Let him out, he can pay for his own hospice/funeral.

Pretty sure Medicare would pick up the tab for hospice, anyway.

 

[Robert59]

Some people with end stage kidney failure do refuse dialysis because they know it will not affect the ultimate outcome and pretty much just prolongs the dying, just as some end stage cancer patients refuse further treatment for the same reason. My own mother refused further cancer treatments for this very reason.

You would think not getting dialysis would kill you alot sooner like a week or so?

 

[win231]

You would think not getting dialysis would kill you alot sooner like a week or so?

Maybe....if they put the right stuff in his IV:

 

[Ruthanne]

I don't believe in torturing people in prison. It's a horrible place for anyone tho I've never been there I know others who have been.

Restitution has been made, he suffers still from what he did and his ailments. I say let him out to die. But then I think a whole lot of people should be let out and reformed some other way besides the horrendous prison conditions. I also believe in prison reform.

 

[StarSong]

LOL. Interesting choice - someone who got away with offing his wife.

Pardon me for saying it, but that was a woman who needed killing. Whoever did it performed a public service.

 

[StarSong]

It's amazing to me how many high viz criminal skunks walk into the courthouse healthy as a horse and then when the show is over, appear feeble and ill the next time they get public attention. It seems to take no time at all for them to need a wheel chair and someone to wipe their drool though before incarceration they were healthy enough to live it up like Wayne Newton.

I've noticed this recent trend, too. Wonder if attorneys are counseling their clients to go on starvation diets so they'll look pathetic, haggard and victimized.

 

[Butterfly]

I don't believe in torturing people in prison. It's a horrible place for anyone tho I've never been there I know others who have been.

Restitution has been made, he suffers still from what he did and his ailments. I say let him out to die. But then I think a whole lot of people should be let out and reformed some other way besides the horrendous prison conditions. I also believe in prison reform.

I looked online and Madoff is in the federal prison at Butner, North Carolina. It's supposed to be the best fed prison to serve time in. It's all low security and has a big state of the art medical complex/hospital attached to it. If you look online there is footage of the interior of the hospital and it looks like any other nice hospital. Madoff is probably getting better care in its palliative care/hospice area than many of us do on the outside.

I doubt that "horrendous prison conditions" fits Butner. It's not like it's Angola or some godawful other state prison -- it's a "club fed" type federal prison.

 

[win231]

Pardon me for saying it, but that was a woman who needed killing. Whoever did it performed a public service.

Yes, she was a real piece of work & a thief.

 

[win231]

I looked online and Madoff is in the federal prison at Butner, North Carolina. It's supposed to be the best fed prison to serve time in. It's all low security and has a big state of the art medical complex/hospital attached to it. If you look online there is footage of the interior of the hospital and it looks like any other nice hospital. Madoff is probably getting better care in its palliative care/hospice area than many of us do on the outside.

I doubt that "horrendous prison conditions" fits Butner. It's not like it's Angola or some godawful other state prison -- it's a "club fed" type federal prison.

That's why federal prisons are referred to as "Club Fed."

 

[win231]

I don't believe in torturing people in prison. It's a horrible place for anyone tho I've never been there I know others who have been.

Restitution has been made, he suffers still from what he did and his ailments. I say let him out to die. But then I think a whole lot of people should be let out and reformed some other way besides the horrendous prison conditions. I also believe in prison reform.

If prison was so horrible, paroled inmates would do anything to avoid going back to prison. That's not the case. The re-offend rate is so high, we have a pathetic revolving-door justice system; that's why the crime rate is what it is. That suggests prison isn't nearly as bad as you think.

 

[JimBob1952]

It's amazing to me how many high viz criminal skunks walk into the courthouse healthy as a horse and then when the show is over, appear feeble and ill the next time they get public attention. It seems to take no time at all for them to need a wheel chair and someone to wipe their drool though before incarceration they were healthy enough to live it up like Wayne Newton.

 

[JimBob1952]

Exhibit A in the feeble sweepstakes would be Harvey Weinstein and his trusty walker

 

[JimBob1952]

I don't mind Madoff spending his last couple of weeks in a hospice.

By the way, this is a very good description of the restitution process:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-recovering-madoff-money/

 

[GoGlo]

No .He ripped my father in law out of $250 thousand.

 

[peppermint]

Perhaps if he had stolen every penny you ever saved you'd feel differently. He destroyed lives without killing anyone.

I wouldn't have that much money.... ....So maybe he'll pass away soon...I really don't care!!!!

 

[Butterfly]

If prison was so horrible, paroled inmates would do anything to avoid going back to prison. That's not the case. The re-offend rate is so high, we have a pathetic revolving-door justice system; that's why the crime rate is what it is. That suggests prison isn't nearly as bad as you think.

Some state prisons are absolute hell holes, but those big low security federal prisons are not.

 

[Sunny]

About whether or not the Federal prisons are the "luxury resorts" of the prison system, it seems to me that the true punishment of incarceration is the loss of freedom. No matter how "luxurious," is that really an option that any of us would ever choose for ourself?

I think if he truly is dying, he could probably be released to a hospice, without any risk of fleeing to some tropical country to live out the rest of his life in luxury. He has already been punished, and his name will forever live in the annals of infamy, remembered with disgust and dishonor. Isn't that the real punishment? What difference if his hospital room is a little nicer, or not?

 

[win231]

About whether or not the Federal prisons are the "luxury resorts" of the prison system, it seems to me that the true punishment of incarceration is the loss of freedom. No matter how "luxurious," is that really an option that any of us would ever choose for ourself?

I think if he truly is dying, he could probably be released to a hospice, without any risk of fleeing to some tropical country to live out the rest of his life in luxury. He has already been punished, and his name will forever live in the annals of infamy, remembered with disgust and dishonor. Isn't that the real punishment? What difference if his hospital room is a little nicer, or not?

It would be the "real punishment"......if he had a conscience. Someone who causes harm to others does not have a conscience. If he did, he couldn't have done what he did.

 

[fuzzybuddy]

One of the world's best conman is "dying". And why is that a reason to let him out of prison? He was given a sentence of 150 years. Who really thinks he was going to live for well over 200 years to be able get out of prison, after serving his sentence? Either the sentence was excessive when it was given, or his crimes deem that he serve his full sentence. I could care less if his corpse stays in prison for 150 years.