2/26/20 A day to just a few days left before panic buying. Get to stores before.

I have a list, mostly stuff I am about to run out of.. as of 2 days ago there is no sign of the panic stuff up this way. ALTHOUGH, some extra peanut butter will fit in.
 

Thanks, @Leann !

Since you didn't give me a title, I named it after you, "Leann's Wheat Bread". LOL I don't have a bread machine, so will figure it out for making by hand.
 
Thanks, @Leann !

Since you didn't give me a title, I named it after you, "Leann's Wheat Bread". LOL I don't have a bread machine, so will figure it out for making by hand.
You're very welcome. I don't have a bread machine either. I mix the ingredients in a Kitchenaid mixer with a dough hook then let the dough rise in the same bowl for the first rising. Then I transfer it to an oiled glass loaf pan to let it rise the second (and final) time.

I use raw oats as an add-in but you can use whatever you like. Sunflower seeds work nicely, too.
 

No panic at Costco Business Center today either, however they were very low on cold meds like Nyquil and completely out of rubbing alcohol and hand sanitizer. I went to Target afterward for hand sanitizer. The shelves were completely empty but an employee had a couple of small cartons of it, and was handing it out to eager shoppers. They surely ran out by the time I left the store. I bought two 8 oz. bottles, though the employee offered me more if I'd wanted.

At Target, most carts contained bleach-based cleaning wipes, bottles of Clorox, dish soap, diapers, TP, and paper towels (plus other non-virus related items.) Nobody had hoarding-level quantities, I'm happy to say. Just a package or two of each.
 
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You don't gage or predict panic rather, you learn about it after it ignites and you are left holding the bag which is now empty. I personally put very little trust in human nature having witnessed riots, burnings and lootings that were responses to a single incident. What has always been wrong with panic buying is one person can go in and buy a disproportionate amount of bread or whatever and they get away with it. I see a monster size difference between the threat of death versus weather related panics. It worries me how negative the media is being.
 
It's a running joke around here that every time the weatherman predicts snow, there is a big run on toilet paper, milk, and bread. I've never understood why. It hardly ever snows any more, but even when it does, it's usually a light snowfall which is gone in a day or two. This is a very temperate climate; our problem is the summer humidity, not the occasional snow in winter.

Anyway, I've been wondering if this virus is really triggering off panic buying (and this forum is the first I've heard about it!), maybe I should stock up on toilet paper? Just in case?
 
Aha! Perhaps me thinks that this is another one of those infamous "Fake News" that we hear about so much these days. All this talk/scare about the new disease will, in due time, blow over when the next big news story comes in. Remember, there are now over 8.4 billion on this planet. 1,000 plus people dying is sad but the world will go on. A much bigger news & one that will effect many more people over the next decade or so is global warming. If this disease scare has less people traveling around on jets, I don't think that it is such a bad thing. Didn't Harry (former Prince Harry of royal UK) just tell us that there are too many tourists & that many beautiful sites on this planet are being spoiled & over-run. I know that Harry is 100% right! If more people stay home, the world will be a better place, me thinks. Support the local economy, I say. Anyway, I have been reading that those stag/hen parties from the UK have a lot of people on the European continent pretty mad! It used to be "Football Hoodlums" that were a problem across Europe, but now it's those stag/hen parties. There are plenty of lovely places in the UK to hold your "darn" stag/hen parties. Support the local economy & save yourself & all your guests a pile of sterling. What a novel idea!
 
The way I see it, it's a hedge against food price inflation. Most anything with a chemical component is a least partly made in China and they're nowhere near producing normally. That includes things we don't normally think like food preservatives. So I'm buying canned stuff I know I'll eat like pineapple, mandarin oranges and some gluten free Progresso soups that are good. Idahoan baby red instant potatoes are super good. And it's a good thing I really like Spam. šŸ™ƒ This will give me a chance to justify eating it more! Thinly sliced and fried crispy with lots of mustard! And Dinty Moore beef stew has good childhood memories so I got some of that. Tomorrow I'll make my last big shop for lettuce, tomato and herb plants.

And in case you haven't noticed ...I really hate shopping in crowds.
I use to LOVE spam.. you said it, thinly sliced with mustard...YUM. Haven't had that in years.
 
There is a big article in this morning's paper about people stocking piling bathroom tissues, medicine, etc.. There is always a picture of some Asian people with face masks on. They quoted Costco as the store where this is happening. Sometimes, I get so sick of the news. Some of the news is just plain fake. I just read the headlines but refuse to read the articles. Think I'll tune up my Epiphone guitar & sing a few of those wonderful old songs. Life is pretty good once you get away from newspapers. By the way, I don't know why some people are stock piling toilet paper. As far as I know toilet paper is not made in China. However, most people are pretty guillable & will believe almost anything they read in the papers or on the Internet. Say, how about that $30 million dollars that guy from Nigeria wants you to help him move from Nigeria to your bank account. He promises to give you a couple of million for your help & trouble. You might as well believe in Santa Claus in July, witches, the 3 little pigs & Gremlins. LOL
 

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I just read the headlines but refuse to read the articles.

Then maybe you missed the update on mortality rates yesterday. There is now an overall mortality rate of 3.4% -- higher than smallpox before vaccines and the 1918 Spanish Flu. The mortality rates increase over age 50 with an almost doubled increase for each decade beyond 50.

And you may have missed this morning's important announcement of US community spread ...not that that's a surprise since most of the rest of the world has demonstrated it for weeks. The US CDC has been so incompetent in testing that we're just now finding out what has logically been going on for weeks given travel patterns. These travel patterns and the communicablity of Covid-19 ensure that there's really no escaping the virus anywhere in the world ...certainly not US or Canada.

We can, however, lessen our exposure to crowds which is the whole point of this thread.
 
The toilet paper stockpiling part of it didn't even appear until I mentioned that for a long time, people here have done that every time the weatherman predicts snow. So, what does that have to do with it?

A lot of the posts, warnings, conjectures, etc. about this virus sound like the ravings of people in a state of panic. Yes, there is an epidemic. Yes, it could result in the death of thousands (or millions) of people, like the Spanish flu did. So, everyone should use common sense, take as good care of ourselves as we can, and avoid going into public places that are known to be hotbeds of this virus. Aside from this, all the rest of the fluttery warnings sound like a Victorian lady on a fainting couch.
 
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the Spanish Flu cannot be used as an example: medical intervention was
primitive when compared to what is available today.
there is a slight danger of hospital's being unable to deal with the
overcrowding
I am disappointed in us, there are several post here urging calm and dealing with the problem in a rational manner and there are many post that urge panic buying by alarmist post of shortage..

Which group to you belong too?
 
the Spanish Flu cannot be used as an example: medical intervention was
primitive when compared to what is available today.

It's based on actual math of people who are dying currently. Covid-19's current mortality is higher than Spanish Flu in its day or smallpox before vaccination regardless of the degree of medical intervention. There's no medication effective for this, no vaccine.

here is a slight danger of hospital's being unable to deal with the
overcrowding

Slight? Do you have any experience in healthcare? The plain Jane flu --which even in a bad year is a walk in the park compared to Covid-19--overwhelms our healthcare infrastructure during outbreaks.

I am disappointed in us, there are several post here urging calm and dealing with the problem in a rational manner and there are many post that urge panic buying by alarmist post of shortage..

Which group to you belong too?

The group not in denial.
 
yep, worked in hospital as mental health worker several years- had gab fest with other depts. at lunch, dinner and when in their depts..

'We do what we can, people panic, run to ER when there is no need.''
'If we can deal with a-bombs, we can deal with anything.'

There was always cussing involving the antics of the pharmaceutical
companies-you can bet they jumped on this problem long before the general population became aware...
(The big four Rx people cleared 165 billion last year)

We have the best hospitalization
network in the world (if you have the money)
There is indeed a potential for poor folks dying from lack of medical care, which may include those of us with Medicare and Medicaid.

Cure the infants and adults first, old folks are going to have to wait.
(Not true? yea it is)

don't you think the barrage of fear is dangerous?
 
I for one wouldn't want a baby or active adult to die in order to save my old self. I've had my turn, let them realize theirs.
I have heard many times on TV from the medical profession that it is NOT affecting children under 10, and they are studying why. I was so relieved to hear this. As to why? does anyone here think it has something to do with not reaching puberty yet? What can be the reason?
 
We have the best hospitalization
network in the world (if you have the money)
There is indeed a potential for poor folks dying from lack of medical care, which may include those of us with Medicare and Medicaid.
If you live in the Right State, i.e. Massachusetts, New York and some others, which, I don't know, having Medicaid is no barrier to the best care available. With Medicaid, you just have to be lucky where you live.

eta--Medicare too.
 
I for one wouldn't want a baby or active adult to die in order to save my old self. I've had my turn, let them realize theirs.

Me either. Or a parent of young children. Or medical staff that can recover and go back to work helping others. I have it in my mind (and hope that I can stick it out should it happen) that I won't seek treatment other than what I can do at home even if I get really sick. There's nothing but supportive care for this, and too, too few ventilators.
 
Ok, good, keep it up

People read cautionary statements differently, some of us have a fear
button easily triggered.
Some read them thoughtful
Others read them and head for the hills, dragging toilet paper (if they think
about it) and lots of canned beans. (Humor?-sort'a, with an element of truth.)

We are a civilized bunch, I don't know how many post have mentioned
toilet paper. That tells us something, I'm not sure what, but something.
 
People read cautionary statements differently, some of us have a fear
button easily triggered.
Some read them thoughtful
Others read them and head for the hills, dragging toilet paper (if they think
about it) and lots of canned beans. (Humor?-sort'a, with an element of truth.)

Some of us 'read thoughtful' ...whatever you actually meant by that... and won't be out unnecessarily in crowds. But no one will head for the hills from this unless they can do so for a long, long time.

And some avoid fear with denial.
 
yep, worked in hospital as mental health worker several years- had gab fest with other depts. at lunch, dinner and when in their depts..

'We do what we can, people panic, run to ER when there is no need.''
'If we can deal with a-bombs, we can deal with anything.'
Not to stray off-topic, but how exactly did "we" deal with a-bombs? My history class taught me that Japan dealt with them. And not very successfully as I recall.

Your posts in this thread feel very condescending. There is no cure for this, thus it won't be infants and active adults first, old folks last. We're not talking lifeboat space here.

People should have 3 days - 3 weeks worth of food and supplies on hand at all times. Supply chain interruptions can occur at any time for any reason. Those who don't have this habit find themselves fear-buying. Completely understandable. What's less understandable is why so many need to repeatedly learn the lesson of advance preparation.

While it is foolhardy to panic, it's equally foolhardy to pretend that this is nothing more than a typical seasonal flu event.
 


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