Another Murderous Weekend

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When will these senseless killings stop? Small children, completely innocent becoming victims, never having a chance to live a life. It’s up to the people to decide when this will stop. Not the cops, not the Mayors and not the Feds. It’s completely in the hands of the people.

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fmdog44 said:
Simple reason, the authorities have given up. They will never stop the illegal flow of weapons anymore then they will end poverty.
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I don’t think it’s so much the flow of the weapons as it is people’s mindset. What are they thinking? If I am in a gang and I see a member of another gang on my turf, it’s my responsibility to shoot him. If a small child gets in the way, so what? They become collateral damage. That’s the way the gang mentality works.

Every person could have a gun in their possession, but it comes down to using it for it’s proper intention. Shooting a rival gang member is not a legal or proper intention. Missing the rival gang member and killing a child should make people mad enough to want to do something about it. That’s what it’s going to take.
 
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Where are all these weapons coming from? I know there are certain areas of NYC where you can buy almost anything you want if you have the money. With the defunding of P.D.s, it is impossible to even set up a separate weapons department to go after them. After arresting anyone with an illegal weapon, the police should be able to hold him indefinitely until he gives up his source.
 
rgp said:
Not a word of protest from BLM about all these ? I suppose ? These black lives do not matter ?
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Apparently those lives Only matter when a White cop is involved.

Presently, both Kansas City and Chicago are on track to set a new record for homicides this year....and I'm sure other cities are in the same boat. With the police coming under increasing criticism, the ONLY ones who stand to gain are the criminals and street/drug gangs.

The Hypocrisy of those engaging in these "protests" is amazing.
 
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I have read that the Governor of Georgia has declared a state of emergency due to the shootings. Up to 1000 troops will guard 3 buildings and monuments around the buildings. I’m sorry to think that this may not help because they (the politicians) still aren’t getting it.

If you were a young man, lacked education, living in poverty and no one really cared for you, what would you be doing? If you could join a gang, sell drugs and make a few thousand on a weekend, wouldn’t you be tempted to go for it? The shooting comes in when drug dealers are gunned down in an attempt to steal their booty, Also, when a drug dealer or gang member (one in the same), sees another gang member dealing on his turf, he wants to shoot him.

This cycle is repeated over and over. I learned this from experience.
 
It has become a routine part of everyday life in my city.

It gets frustrating for me at times to keep in mind that the thugs are in the minority. The vast majority of people in the community are just as disgusted with the lawlessness as I am.

The tough part in combatting this type of violence is that the thugs will always have the ability to choose the time and place to act out while all that law enforcement can do is react as things happen.
 
Troops or police at intervals don't thwart folks, and troops without riot training don't deter people.
Troops or police hampered by limitations imposed on them by their hierarchy
become spectators.

A cluster of troops or police that will take no guff, and do not hesitate to do their job is a scary scene.
If their not allowed to do their job, they 'scare' nobody.

The situations in our large cities are out of control. It will be difficult to put the genie
back in the bottle.
Let the people currently in place do their job.
 
Remember the group The Guardian Angels started I think in NY to patrol the neighborhoods by civilians wearing red berets? On the new tonight on the subject of Chicago shootings it showed two men wearing those berets. Obviously they are not very effective.
 
Camper6 said:
The amount of guns out there means people settle their arguments with them.

We live in a very rural area, and virtually every household has guns....I have several. However, in the 18 years we've lived here, I can only recall one shooting....a woman shot her abusive husband, and was given probation.

It's not the guns....rather, it is the idiots. Every time I watch the TV news, I'm glad we live here. Now, with this virus, and the unemployment numbers so high, I expect the carnage to only get worse.
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jerry old said:
Troops or police at intervals don't thwart folks, and troops without riot training don't deter people.
Troops or police hampered by limitations imposed on them by their hierarchy
become spectators.

A cluster of troops or police that will take no guff, and do not hesitate to do their job is a scary scene.
If their not allowed to do their job, they 'scare' nobody.

The situations in our large cities are out of control. It will be difficult to put the genie
back in the bottle.
Let the people currently in place do their job.
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You make a good point, but here is what I learned while riot training at the FBI Academy. During a Q&A session, someone asked one of the Special Agents that presented the course the following question. (It's not verbatim. My memory isn't that good anymore.) "What about calling up the National Guard or even the military during times of unrest?"

Here's the answer the SA gave:
"Using the military would not be a good idea. They have had no formal training in civilian matters. It would be very messy to put 1000 Army or Marines on the streets and expect them to contain, or otherwise control the mobs. As for the National Guard, yes. This
would be helpful. However, we would never allow anyone other than the police to use live rounds of ammunition. Rubber bullets
would be a better choice for the National Guard. Most National Guard units have been trained in some aspects of civilian crowd controls, including during civil unrest."

I may be mistaken, but I believe that the last time the National Guard was used in Washington D.C., they had bayonets attached to their rifles.
 
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You put troops in the street with bayonets, young civilians (under 30) will challenge
them with rocks, taunting and worse.
Civilians have no idea how efficient trained troops/state police can be-they really do
not understand that trained troops/state police will clear the streets, regardless of
the cost.

It is not a good idea because there would be wounded and dead civilians on the street.
Who is willing to make that call?
 
NEW YORK CITY (WABC) -- It was a weekend plagued by gun violence across New York City as the surge in shootings continues, with 11 people killed in two days and 30 shootings with 10 homicides on Sunday alone.

Police say 48 people were victimized in those 30 shootings, including a terrifying caught-on-camera murder in which a man walking with his 6-year-old daughter was gunned down on the street in broad daylight.

The number of burglaries increased 118% (1,783 vs. 817), and the number of auto thefts increased 51% (696 vs. 462).


https://abc7ny.com/violent-weekend-10-dead-in-30-shootings-in-nyc-on-sunday-alone/6301407/
 
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