Drunk Driver Who Killed Cyclist Drives Drunk Again

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...Violating the terms of her parole after 4-1/2 years from the 10 year jail sentence for killing the cyclist. Before hitting the cyclist in 2015, she had bragged about driving drunk on social media (who does that?!) Of course, to get paroled she promised she'd never drive drunk again. And why were the additional vehicular and cocaine possession charges dropped?! Anyway, this time she got 18 months.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...ced-to-18-months-for-driving-drunk-again.html
 

I have NO sympathy for drunk drivers. IMO, if they cause an injury or death, they should be charged the same as a criminal....and permanently lose their license. For years, we've avoided being on the roads on a Friday/Saturday night because of the drunks on the highways.

In recent years, however, cell phone addicts have become an equal, or greater, risk...24/7. We travel a lot of 2 lane rural roads, and I am constantly on the lookout for oncoming drivers who are crossing the yellow lines. These types of people should Also, IMO, be charged with assault or murder when they destroy someone else's life.
 
And then there are the cell phone pedestrians, who are so busy yakking or texting as they cross the street that they don't look out for traffic coming their way. Maybe not as bad as the drivers, as they won't kill anyone, but I bet they cause plenty of accidents by drivers trying to avoid them!
 

Par for the course. We recycle all criminals - including drunk drivers.
There is no such thing as a "One-Time DUI Offender." By the time they're arrested the first time, they've driven drunk many times. And it's a pretty-good racket; money from fines, etc. And many attorneys specialize in DUI cases because it's quick, easy money. "Your honor, my client is entering an alcohol treatment program...he has a good job........" ($500.00 per word).
 
Unbelievable. It’s shocking and that’s in our province. It’s shameful. She should be locked up. The moment you are drunk and step into a vehicle to drive then you are then making a choice to use a deadly weapon and that’s not fair to anyone. Maybe she’d take it more seriously if the consequences of her actions were. Her punishment is a total joke and a slap in the face to anyone else who has lost someone due to drinking & driving especially when the killer brags about it online.
 
Keesha said:
Unbelievable. It’s shocking and that’s in our province. It’s shameful. She should be locked up. The moment you are drunk and step into a vehicle to drive then you are then making a choice to use a deadly weapon and that’s not fair to anyone. Maybe she’d take it more seriously if the consequences of her actions were. Her punishment is a total joke and a slap in the face to anyone else who has lost someone due to drinking & driving especially when the killer brags about it online.
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It's frightening to know she lives in a neighbourhood, not far from us. Her license should be revoked permanently.
 
Don M. said:
I have NO sympathy for drunk drivers. IMO, if they cause an injury or death, they should be charged the same as a criminal....and permanently lose their license. For years, we've avoided being on the roads on a Friday/Saturday night because of the drunks on the highways.

In recent years, however, cell phone addicts have become an equal, or greater, risk...24/7. We travel a lot of 2 lane rural roads, and I am constantly on the lookout for oncoming drivers who are crossing the yellow lines. These types of people should Also, IMO, be charged with assault or murder when they destroy someone else's life.
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I tell you what has become notcieable since many thousands have been furloughed and ''working from home''..that unlike when they're physically at work, a certain type of person is now drinking from home during the day while ostensibly ''working'' then going out on the roads and driving drunk to collect children from school, or shopping .. so we are experiencing more of a menace currently on the roads at times when we're not so used to be hyper aware of drunks
 
jujube said:
We're still waiting two years later for the trial of the drunk driver who killed my sister. The trial has been rescheduled again for September (the sixth reschedule). Will it happen this time? Probably not as her team of expensive lawyers keep coming up with ways to delay it.

There has to be a way of keeping these people off the road!
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Try writing a letter to the judge stating that the family would like to see justice served, so that your family may have closure. (Even though closure may not occur.) Families can sometimes convince a judge to deny any additional continuances. I have seen it happen.
 
911 said:
Try writing a letter to the judge stating that the family would like to see justice served, so that your family may have closure. (Even though closure may not occur.) Families can sometimes convince a judge to deny any additional continuances. I have seen it happen.
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Oh, believe me, letters have been written to everyone up to the governor. No results. Everyone is soooooo sorry for our loss....but not sorry enough to do anything to speed things up.
 
Imagine yourself as a State Trooper in your state. It’s 1:30 in the morning and you receive a radio call:”Accident on Route 215 at Route 55 with injuries, ambulance and fire truck is already in route. Respond Signal 2.” When you arrive, all you see is what used to be two vehicles, which is now two mangled pieces of metal. The firemen are using the jaws of life to help extricate the victims from one of the vehicles.

You are told that four bodies have been removed from the two vehicles. Two fatalities have occurred. You have their ID’s and need to make notifications. You and another Trooper decide to visit the female’s home first. It’s now 3:25 a.m. The father answers the door. He sees two State Troopers standing in his doorway at 3:45 a.m. You have to tell him that his beautiful daughter won’t be coming home anymore and that he needs to go to the County Morgue to make a verifiable ID.

Do you think it would have an effect on you? It never gets easier, no matter how many times you have to do it. You go home hoping to get some sleep, but all you do is lie there while you relive the night over and over. The next day, you read the Coroner’s report and see that the driver had a BAC of .17. Just over twice the legal limit.
 
Don't know whether any one agrees but we should start changing legislation to incorporate an additional sentence for people who show no remorse or in the above thread decides to brag about what they have done. My example is a police man who was dragged attached to a stolen care for about a mile or more. The scum perpetrators showed no remorse and got sentences for manslaughter amounting to something like 15-18 years. I'm sure someone can correct me on that point. They will probably do 2/3rd of that. More importantly they showed no remorse and were seen to smile/giggle. As the law stands here they cannot be convicted of murder ( a higher sentence) because they didn't set out to commit murder but theft. So let's get some legislation between the two that gives more years of sentence if they show no remorse and find it amusing. His wife of just 28 days marriage is setting up a petition asking that they are sentenced on a murder charge, I will support that. One cannot imagine what that PC went through being dragged through the streets with pavements etc. Will stop now too distressing.
 
Treacle said:
Don't know whether any one agrees but we should start changing legislation to incorporate an additional sentence for people who show no remorse or in the above thread decides to brag about what they have done. My example is a police man who was dragged attached to a stolen care for about a mile or more. The scum perpetrators showed no remorse and got sentences for manslaughter amounting to something like 15-18 years. I'm sure someone can correct me on that point. They will probably do 2/3rd of that. More importantly they showed no remorse and were seen to smile/giggle. As the law stands here they cannot be convicted of murder ( a higher sentence) because they didn't set out to commit murder but theft. So let's get some legislation between the two that gives more years of sentence if they show no remorse and find it amusing. His wife of just 28 days marriage is setting up a petition asking that they are sentenced on a murder charge, I will support that. One cannot imagine what that PC went through being dragged through the streets with pavements etc. Will stop now too distressing.
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Love the idea you have in the opening of your post, Treacle, and to take it a step further, allowing affected parties to sue the likes of legal teams and judges who allow for such individuals to be released to commit again.
 
Keesha said:
Unbelievable. It’s shocking and that’s in our province. It’s shameful. She should be locked up. The moment you are drunk and step into a vehicle to drive then you are then making a choice to use a deadly weapon and that’s not fair to anyone. Maybe she’d take it more seriously if the consequences of her actions were. Her punishment is a total joke and a slap in the face to anyone else who has lost someone due to drinking & driving especially when the killer brags about it online.
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Yes, everything about our legal system is a joke and a slap in the face to victims.
If Ted Kennedy & Princess Dianna's chauffeur can get away with driving drunk & killing their passengers, why shouldn't everyone else?
 
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win231 said:
Yes, everything about our legal system is a joke and a slap in the face to victims.
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It's possible I missed something, but from what I've seen it started with this "drug-court" nonsense. Individuals get away with virtually anything as long as they can claim "substance abuse."
In one instance I saw on t.v., a drunk driver stated 'I'm not a criminal- I'm an alcoholic!' and another individual stated 'I'm not a monster- I'm just an addict that made a mistake!' For the latter, this was his excuse after he abducted, tortured, raped, and murdered a young teenage girl.

In too many cases, individuals get off with 'probation' or a brief period of so-called 'treatment.' But in the case I mentioned a few weeks ago about the so-called neighbor who committed "willful injury" resulting in "serious bodily injury," he got away with it entirely- the prosecutor dismissed the charges.

It's not surprising that this is widely known as the "get-out-of-jail-free card." :mad:
 
Aunt Marg said:
Love the idea you have in the opening of your post, Treacle, and to take it a step further, allowing affected parties to sue the likes of legal teams and judges who allow for such individuals to be released to commit again.
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Judges will usually take into consideration the defendant's attitude during court. Unfortunately, we have sentences to go along with the crime that have been established by the DOJ. For a judge to go above and beyond what the normal sentence is for a crime, he has to have a pretty darn good reason.

For example; If a defendant is charged with Voluntary Manslaughter, which is considered to be a first degree felony and carries a minimum sentence of 20 years should get the full sentence. However, the guidelines for such an offense, if the defendant has never been arrested and charged for any other felony, may be as little at 12-15 years. Cut that in half for good behavior and the defendant can be out of prison after serving only 6-8 years.

It really comes down to the judge and the position he takes. If the defendant sits in his chair and smiles, giggles or acts like a moron, he may get the full load. However, if he is respectful of the court, dressed appropriately and shows remorse, he may get a lesser sentence.

In the one County that I served in for 8 years was a judge that was very consistent in his sentencing. The harsher the crime, the harsher the sentence. He probably had more sentences appealed than any other Judge that I knew. He was as tough as nails as they say. In one case, a young man of 17 shot his friend because he had sex with his girlfriend. The 17 y/o found out about it, went home and got his dad's .357 and went to his house. When the other kid answered the door, he stuck the gun in his face and pulled the trigger. The kid was unrecognizable. The 17 y/o was charged as an adult and accepted a plea deal that was agreed upon by the judge of 15 years without parole. Two years into his sentence, he attempted to escape and got 5 years added onto his sentence. He should be out next year, unless he has done something else as stupid as attempting to escape.
 
jujube said:
We're still waiting two years later for the trial of the drunk driver who killed my sister. The trial has been rescheduled again for September (the sixth reschedule). Will it happen this time? Probably not as her team of expensive lawyers keep coming up with ways to delay it.

There has to be a way of keeping these people off the road!
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Jujube I'm so sorry to read that your family is gong through this. You have my sincere condolences on the tragic loss of your sister. May she R.I.P.
 
Drunk drivers are selfish p'sos period. Once someone has criminally taken a life there are two choices in my book-spend their entire remaining life working towards redemption or nothing. This pos chose nothing.
 
Justice? Where? On what planet? Not this one.

Last night, I watched a non-fiction movie - "83 Hours 'Til Dawn." It's about a kidnapping that occurred in 1968 (Long before the B.S. "Coronavirus excuse" for releasing violent inmates).

Some of you may remember this case.

A guy & his girlfriend kidnapped a young girl for ransom & buried her alive in a coffin-like box they built for that purpose.
The guy & his girlfriend were caught. The guy was sentenced to life....and released after 10 years. And subsequently convicted of other crimes - and (again) received short sentences).
His girlfriend was sentenced to 7 years & was released after 4 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Mackle_kidnapping
 
My late Mother was a functioning alcoholic and a driver....no that was not what killed her
Mum had so many DUI charges the last time she was in front of a Magistrate her Drivers Licence was revoked
That did not stop her and she kept driving herself to and from the local shops
Mum never hurt anyone except herself when she was so drunk she drove off several cliffs and woke up next morning puzzled
Or she drove into stobie poles (power line poles) but because she was absolutely plastered but she walked away from the wreck
Several times the Police could not believe her high blood alcohol content because she should have been comatose
I asked her several times why she drank so much and maybe she should stop and save some money
Mum said 'I can stop any time I want' and I said 'Why don't you' and her knee jerk reaction was 'Because I don't want to'
Consequently I am almost 'tee-total' I have a drink with huz on Christmas Day (his birthday) and a few days later on my birthday
We also share a bottle of Moscato usually pink on New Years Eve and I hope by that time 2021 has got to be better than 2020
 

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