Wales is not the place to be...

Boris,though,is desperate not to do that.My problem is that an island should have a national strategy.We are not so big that we can have three different sets of rules.As i keep saying the virus does not change in nature at an arbitary border
It's like having a peeing section in the swimming pool. NYC has different rules than someplace 20 miles away. It's not about staying safe; it's about government control.
 

And I couldn't think of the word 'immunity.' It's called 'herd immunity.'
Of course, the doctors have said, recently, there is no such thing, just saying what had been said, and what I said at the beginning of all this. (Yes, I am a ā€œI told you soā€ person. šŸ˜‚)
 
I am Welsh...but i wish i wasn’t!
It has just been announced that from Friday evening until November 9th Wales will be in a complete lockdown.We have all been told to stay at home and are only allowed out to shop and access medical services.Most businesses will be closed again.Not that some have ever reopened.I don’t think anyone believes this will just be for two weeks.
Not only that,our bully of a leader has made it clear that he will not allow life to return to normal until there is a vaccine.There is little chance of that and you won’t get me having one until i’m sure it is safe.
So there we have it.If you live in Wales you are condemned to just exist forevermore.
I don’t want to live here anymore.Time to sell up and move to England.But who the hell would be mad enough to buy a house here?
I need to live....but it is clear Community rugby will never return here,concert venues will not reopen and i see little chance of being allowed to return to watching cricket come April.Everything i live for gone.
The only thing that has to be answered is how soon i end up in the Psychiatric ward.I am heading there at a rate of knots.
We cannot be expected to live like this.
Sounds like New Jersey.
 
No, I can't imagine lawsuits, and in fact, any lawsuits filed by people not abiding by stringent criteria and guidelines set out by governing parties related to Covid-19, those lawsuits should be reversed, and a lawsuit brought down on those who aren't living up to the health and safety measures implemented.

That would quickly quash all of this foolish lawsuit talk.

It's simple, we are experiencing a pandemic world-wide at this time, do as you're told.
The problem with that, Aunt Marg is guide lines and executive orders are only pieces of paper in a court of law since they are not law. Thus, law suits have a great chance of winning. At least in the U.S. One must legislate in order to force the issue.
 
IMO it makes no sense to lash out at the government.

Any of us that are fortunate enough not to need to go out to work or school should be content to stay home out of harm's way.

In this area, there is a lot of hand-wringing over what the government thinks we should do about Halloween or if we can safely attend fitness centers, movie theaters, etc... What has happened to us that we pretend to live in a free society and yet we are incapable of making logical decisions for our own personal safety and the safety of our families?

Be smart, stay home, stay safe, save lives.
 
IMO it makes no sense to lash out at the government.

Any of us that are fortunate enough not to need to go out to work or school should be content to stay home out of harm's way.

In this area, there is a lot of hand-wringing over what the government thinks we should do about Halloween or if we can safely attend fitness centers, movie theaters, etc... What has happened to us that we pretend to live in a free society and yet we are incapable of making logical decisions for our own personal safety and the safety of our families?

Be smart, stay home, stay safe, save lives.
Wait, just wait. No Halloween?

No mobs of kids begging for candy, knocking on my door after I’ve gone to bed, running over my plants, driving the neighborhood dogs insane, and narrowly missed by cars? This year-none of that?

And people claim there is no god, yet we are delivered from Halloween. Hallelujah. 🤪😊
 
The cure should not be worse than the disease. The media plays up the number of cases but the actual number of deaths is a small percentage. Of course some governments want to lower the number of deaths or they will lose taxpayers.
 
Wait, just wait. No Halloween?

No mobs of kids begging for candy, knocking on my door after I’ve gone to bed, running over my plants, driving the neighborhood dogs insane, and narrowly missed by cars? This year-none of that?

And people claim there is no god, yet we are delivered from Halloween. Hallelujah. 🤪😊
we'll be having all of that because we're not in lockdown....:rolleyes:..we haven't been in Lockdown since around June or July
 
The problem with that, Aunt Marg is guide lines and executive orders are only pieces of paper in a court of law since they are not law. Thus, law suits have a great chance of winning. At least in the U.S. One must legislate in order to force the issue.
What a shame that is, Lew, especially at a time like this.
 
I look at the USA, and I just shake my head. No one listens to anyone. All that exists is criticism. Well, criticism isn't effective against coronavirus. A couple weeks ago on a local forum, a younger person in the area posted that he was afraid the schools were going to close and go remote. He said that he didn't see why kids had to lose out on the best times of their lives to give up for old folks in the worst of their time.

You see, the problem is criticism.... it divides at a time when we need to unite to fight a basically unknown virus.

But, the government cannot MAKE anyone align with the recommendations. We have rights in the US, and THAT is what is killing us. It isn't the virus that is deadly right now, it is our RIGHTS
 
@Furryanimal ..can you take a rental in England for now, until you can sell your place ?... your situation is enough to cause severe emotional challenges. If you can get out before your lockdown.. at least you'll be able to breathe easily.
Can't afford it.I can't sell the house because I don't own it until probate completes.And that process has been going on for nearly a year now,Stalled by a legal issue I don't understand.And lockdown means estate agents are closed and house sales are banned.I had hoped to have sold a garage by now which was going to fund my big trip which isn't going to happen either.I know I own that but until probate completes I have nothing to prove it!Oh hum...
 
@Furryanimal ..can you take a rental in England for now, until you can sell your place ?... your situation is enough to cause severe emotional challenges. If you can get out before your lockdown.. at least you'll be able to breathe easily.
And when England goes into lockdown, does furry animal move again? Time for us all to buckle down. It is what it is, adjust.
 
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I look at the USA, and I just shake my head. No one listens to anyone. All that exists is criticism. Well, criticism isn't effective against coronavirus. A couple weeks ago on a local forum, a younger person in the area posted that he was afraid the schools were going to close and go remote. He said that he didn't see why kids had to lose out on the best times of their lives to give up for old folks in the worst of their time.

You see, the problem is criticism.... it divides at a time when we need to unite to fight a basically unknown virus.

But, the government cannot MAKE anyone align with the recommendations. We have rights in the US, and THAT is what is killing us. It isn't the virus that is deadly right now, it is our RIGHTS
I don’t understand what you mean either. A CHILD doesn’t want to do many things children don’t get to choose what is best for them, adults do. Children can, and do, voice a lot of criticisms, we allow this and listen, and then they do what they are told.
 
And when England goes into lockdown, does furry animal move again? Time for us all to buckle down and grow up. It is what it is, adjust.
I have been looking at hotels and most are fully booked in places I fancy going.People are desperate for breaks.Adjust to what?My days go wake up.exist ,see no one,go to bed.Seven days a week.That is not living.....And I object to the phrase 'grow up'.I'm off before I say something I regret:eek:
 
I have been looking at hotels and most are fully booked in places I fancy going.People are desperate for breaks.Adjust to what?My days go wake up.exist ,see no one,go to bed.Seven days a week.That is not living.....And I object to the phrase 'grow up'.I'm off before I say something I regret:eek:
Since you object, I will apologize and will change my post. Perhaps, because I am in so much pain from the labrum tear and tendon tear in my hip, compounding all my other painful issues I am not as patient with anyone whining but me. I whine a LOT.

I would imagine our over 200,000 dead would prefer to be in lockdown rather than, you know, dead, but again perhaps that’s just me, just my opinion. Our dead don’t wake up, don’t talk to anyone, don’t see anyone, and, oh, wait, don’t exist anymore. It weights me down, the incalculable loss my country is experiencing.

I am so very sorry you are just existing due to your country’s efforts to keep you alive. I’ve spoken to my son, he has a spare room, he will let you stay. Come to Utah. Enjoy the virus. Our hospitals are full, the virus is still increasing, deaths are up; but we are not in lockdown. You can do more than exist here, existing ends when you die, just saying . @Furryanimal
 
@Furryanimal, surely this won't be forever. It'll just feel like it for a while. :cry:
When a safe, effective vaccine becomes available the activities you mentioned will surely return.

I understand your pain and frustration. A few weeks of near isolation would be a bitter pill to swallow.
 
The cure should not be worse than the disease. The media plays up the number of cases but the actual number of deaths is a small percentage. Of course some governments want to lower the number of deaths or they will lose taxpayers.

The majority of the people dying aren't paying taxes anymore, or not as much and are likely taking more out than they're paying in with SS etc. If govt.s were actively playing a role in deaths to prop up the coffers they'd want more deaths not less.
 
Man, we're pretty soft nowadays. We think these lockdowns are such an imposition. You have to stay home with your 200 channels and your streaming and your internet, etc, "Oh the Humanity!". Just imagine what is was like during the Spanish Flu or even standing in food lines during the Depression hoping to get some bread.
And I get it, I hate this stuff, I want to do what I want to do like before. I'm going stir crazy like everybody else, but is is really THAT bad?
 


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