News from my local paper on Covid

AnnieA said:
We all know what you meant and you don't know how some of the rest of us think about things that we aren't supposed to discuss per rules of this forum. Just because you feel special enough to continually sneak your political views in frequently doesn't mean that those of us who don't act that way necessarily disagree with you.
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I'm truly sorry that you feel that way about my posts but I see nothing untrue in what I posted. The thread has to do with Covid, which seems to be getting more deadly by the day. I offered up an opinion on the handling of the situation and what I thought was lacking. I purposely stayed away from any name(s) or individuals but what else is there to discuss, other than the attempts, or lack of same, to get a grip on this tragedy that is overwhelming our medical systems and the medical personnel that are bearing the brunt of this disaster

If I offended you (or anyone else) you have my apology and I'd be glad if someone could disagree with my statement and put a happy face on this situation.
 

It's been mishandled from the start. In many countries, including our own, I got the feeling that the Three Stooges were dealing with the pandemic. (They might have done a better job!) Nobody knew what to do, they wanted to bolster economic interests as long as possible, at whatever price to human beings, and the spread of disinformation was unbelievable. Denial was the order of the day.

And even with the number of Covid cases in the US the highest in the world, way more than India, which is second, apparently some of us are still in denial, juggling figures to show that it really isn't so bad, if you look at the statistics this way instead of that way.

Like the line in The Wizard of Oz, "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain..." that "man" being a deadly virus that would wipe out the human race if given the chance. And yet, there are still people deliberately walking into the line of fire by refusing to wear masks.
 
Sunny said:
It's been mishandled from the start. In many countries, including our own, I got the feeling that the Three Stooges were dealing with the pandemic. (They might have done a better job!) Nobody knew what to do, they wanted to bolster economic interests as long as possible, at whatever price to human beings, and the spread of disinformation was unbelievable. Denial was the order of the day.

And even with the number of Covid cases in the US the highest in the world, way more than India, which is second, apparently some of us are still in denial, juggling figures to show that it really isn't so bad, if you look at the statistics this way instead of that way.
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Definitely agree with paragraph one!

Paragraph two ... on my part, I don't look at stats as a whole because I'm in denial. It's because I was taught to do it in ...statistics classes. 🙃

You never look at one quantative variable in science. All those numbers, cases per population, testing per population are necessary for a reasonably accurate view of the Big Picture. That's why Worldometers has the data table columns designed with the ability to look at a field from highest to lowest or vice versa to help with overall analysis. And since the pandemic isn't a controlled experiment with conditions, much less numbers, in all countries being equal, there are multiple confounding variables.
 

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rgp said:
I'm curious about where these nurses got the virus ? I mean if all the personal protective gear , mask etc. work? And are a safeguard against it ? How did they catch it? Is all the gear a crap-shoot?
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They are getting it because they are not distancing and they are going ahead and attending weddings and parties and visiting friends and family and hugging and kissing and not masking. Also they are still traveling despite the fact that this is part of the problem. They are bringing it in and spreading it amongst each other.

I also don't believe they're wearing their gear properly at all times. They paw their masks and touch everything.

When I say they're not distancing...it's not just outside of work. They sit right next to one another and across from one another in groups of 6 or more at the dinner tables in the cafeteria as well as what they do outside of work.
 
DaveA said:
I'm truly sorry that you feel that way about my posts but I see nothing untrue in what I posted. The thread has to do with Covid, which seems to be getting more deadly by the day. I offered up an opinion on the handling of the situation and what I thought was lacking. I purposely stayed away from any name(s) or individuals but what else is there to discuss, other than the attempts, or lack of same, to get a grip on this tragedy that is overwhelming our medical systems and the medical personnel that are bearing the brunt of this disaster

If I offended you (or anyone else) you have my apology and I'd be glad if someone could disagree with my statement and put a happy face on this situation.
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You didn't offend me. I totally agree.
 
Before I forget...I talked with someone in employee health this morning about this new vaccine. We were discussing the formaldehyde issue. He was telling me that from what he's read this new vaccine will be freeze dried into a powder form at -40 F and then they have to add sterile water to the syringe and shake it up to get it liquified right before they inject it. He was saying that's how they will preserve it through the freeze drying or freeze dried storage. He's gonna try to email me a link when they find out what we're getting and from who so I can see what's in it or contact the company to find out. If I can take it I think I'm going to. I don't like not knowing the long term affects but with my COPD it might be best if I just go ahead and do it as long as I'm not allergic to any ingredients.
 
MarciKS said:
This is why COVID has gotten out of control. As long as this crap continues there's gonna be a risk of all of us getting it and possibly dying.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-...accine-dakota-iowa_n_5fb0a0e7c5b6b956698bbe7d
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Thanks for you post MarciKS. One of our grand-daughters and a niece are both RN's (same hospital) and are being "run into the ground". That's part of what has annoyed me so much about the cavalier attitude in some parts of the country. IMHO, it didn't have to be this way and possibly could have been better contained with a nationwide effort.
 
DaveA said:
Thanks for you post MarciKS. One of our grand-daughters and a niece are both RN's (same hospital) and are being "run into the ground". That's part of what has annoyed me so much about the cavalier attitude in some parts of the country. IMHO, it didn't have to be this way and possibly could have been better contained with a nationwide effort.
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Yup.
 
Well...another Covid death yesterday. Today the Covid patients jumped 10. We are now 17 beds away from being full. I have no idea how bad things are going to get here. Topeka's hospital is full. Some of them are setting up field hospitals in the parking lots.
 
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Ok. Another Covid death today. Covid patient count went down to 24? I'm sure after thanksgiving next week if not before it's going to take off. We have 77 employees out with Covid or quarantined or on modified quarantine (meaning their working). A nurse said they are getting it from activities outside of work (because they can't follow the rules) and bringing it into work.
 
Wednesday we had 366 cases. Today it's 500. We had 34 COVID trays at supper. Four on ventilators. The ER was filling up when I left. Also the sounds of ambulance sirens is becoming more frequent. They're also taking in people from other communities. I think 🤬 is starting to hit the fan here. If it gets bad we're screwed. We don't have the staffing to have a lot of options. We may have 60 beds all total. After that...don't want to think about what's gonna happen.
 
MarciKS said:
Wednesday we had 366 cases. Today it's 500. We had 34 COVID trays at supper. Four on ventilators. The ER was filling up when I left. Also the sounds of ambulance sirens is becoming more frequent. They're also taking in people from other communities. I think 🤬 is starting to hit the fan here. If it gets bad we're screwed. We don't have the staffing to have a lot of options. We may have 60 beds all total. After that...don't want to think about what's gonna happen.
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Any word on whether the military will be (or has been) asked to help? They're supposed to be prepared to offer beds and medical personnel.
 
@MarciKS, my heart and soul goes out to you girl, bringing tears to my eyes after reading all your updated posts.....
I wanna say please leave your job for your safety and well being but I know that's easier said than done....its probably your meal ticket to survive, but just know we're all thinking of you each day 🌹 💕 ..... and sending big hugs your way ((((( ))))).....Thank you for all you do at your hospital to care for others xo
 
You know...I've been in food service for nearly 40 yrs and this is the craziest thing I've ever experienced. Definitely the scariest. But at some point in life someone has to stand up to do the hard things. I was gonna leave at first. But I can't. It's necessary I be there. My life isn't worth anything if I'm not able to be a part of taking care of others. If I'm going to die I want there to be a purpose to it. Everyone talks about people hiding in their homes in fear. I don't do that. I stay home in an effort to stay safer and keep others safer. But each day we go to work we are facing fear head on to help take care of people like you and me.

If we all quit who would be there to take care of you all? This is what I do. This is who I am. I can't turn my back on people who need us. The patients families need us. Sometimes we're their only support. At least I'm not a nurse having to watch these people die. I usually run into them in the hall on the way to the morgue. It's going to be a difficult winter. But I plan to remain strong and do my best to stay safe and take care of myself. You never know when your comforting words are gonna help a visitor relax or your smile is gonna lift the spirits of a nurse whose having to deal with this for 12 hrs a day.

It's not easy knowing you're serving food to someone whose caring for COVID patients and not acting like they've got the plague. It's a struggle for all of us to stay calm. The nursing staff is having a hard time with this. We all are. We watch the numbers rise and we don't know what's going to happen. We've had several in our dept alone that have had to quarantine. Two that have had COVID. It can strike any one of us at any time. I may not always like my co-workers but...I'm proud of the fact that they too haven't chickened out and quit. It's in God's hands.
 
I talked to a nurse in the cafeteria today that's been in the COVID unit all week working. She told me she's scared to death. I wanted so bad to hug her because I felt so bad for her. But I can't. It's too risky for either of us.

I am scared. Every single day. I used to sit and visit with co-workers. Now I flit around so I'm not in one spot too long just in case. It's impossible to not be paranoid. Especially with people's hygiene habits. You never know.
 

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