The Crown - anybody watching?

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I'm near the end of the fourth season of this excellent series on Netflix. This season is a humdinger, mainly about the tragedy of Charles and Diana, but also with quite a bit about Margaret Thatcher, and one episode about apartheid in South Africa. It's beautifully, shot and the acting is terrific.

The Queen seems like a pretty cold character to me. Her devotion is entirely to the crown, to royalty, and to the "people of the commonwealth," though she doesn't really seem to care about people very much at all, starting with her own children. And her sister's happiness was thrown away; Elizabeth could have stopped that.

A few years ago, the movie The Queen showed her in pretty much the same light, immediately after Diana's death. So I guess it's pretty much on the mark.
 

Just to reiterate what most of us know that almost none of the Crown is based on real life...

here Lady Anne Glenconner, Princess Margaret's lady in waiting says what she thinks of The Crown..

The Crown's portrayal of the Royal Family is 'complete fantasy' and 'so unfair', Lady Anne Glenconner, the late Princess Margaret's lady-in-waiting, has said.

The socialite, 90, who was a maid of honour at Queen Elizabeth II's coronation, told BBC Radio 4's Woman's Hour that the show 'just makes me so angry'.

She said: 'The trouble is that people, especially in America, believe it completely. It's so irritating. I don't watch The Crown now because it just makes me so angry. And it's so unfair on members of the royal family.'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...mplete-fantasy-says-Lady-Anne-Glenconner.html
 
@hollydolly, I have to agree with the portrayal of the Royal family being very unkind and unfair.
That being said, it is fiction, I guess the Queen's passing has made me very critical even defensive of the RF.
I did not enjoy season five at all, I found it to be utter garbage and a complete bore-fest.
 
Tish said:
@hollydolly, I have to agree with the portrayal of the Royal family being very unkind and unfair.
That being said, it is fiction, I guess the Queen's passing has made me very critical even defensive of the RF.
I did not enjoy season five at all, I found it to be utter garbage and a complete bore-fest.
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yes , you're so right, it is fiction, however the Crown producers have always tried to infer that it's real and more people who watch it believe it a Documentary than those who don't... and they've now got a very skewed and almost dangerous view of the Royal Family..
 
Season Five is very sensationalized, based on imaginary conversations for the most part. Though I'm still watching, am surprised at how different this season is from the prior four. IMO.
 
Never watched it and don't intend doing so at this stage of the game.

There's been a lot of talk of it on the various news sites. I doubt it would have been in the forefront were it not for Harry and that wife of his.

Also, now that Charles is King, they'll dredge up all the mess between him and Diana.
 
I have not previously watched The Crown, but this time I will. Although the show takes some liberties, one in particular when it suggests a relationship between Galina Ulanova the Russian ballet dancer and Prince Philip (there is no tangible proof of this) it is otherwise on par with history and certainly cannot be called a work of fiction!

The show is based on events that really did happen and the characters are based on real people. Although the script writers have taken some poetic licence it has not detracted from the truth Let’s be sensible about this, you have to be present or have a hidden recorder to know what people actually said.

As an amusing aside.. Camilla said, Dominic West was far too attractive to play King Charles lol! And that is not fiction!

I imagine none of you know that before the filming, King Charles also met with Dominic and had no problems about any of the scripts. As a matter of fact, he told Dominic, as an actor, he had to do what he had to do!
 
Even though I have no use for the royal family, I am enjoying The Crown. The history and politics are quite interesting. It really is rather sad at how dysfunctional the family is. I can't imagine what it's like living such an "artificial" and sheltered life, but of course that's normal for them. The Diana and Charles story as it is portrayed is quite heartbreaking. Diana was such a tragic figure who didn't deserve how she was treated.

Overall, the series is well-written and well-acted. The actresses who played Elizabeth were spot on, as is the latest Diana. This season's Charles isn't believable to me. Not good casting there.
 
hollydolly said:
yes , you're so right, it is fiction, however the Crown producers have always tried to infer that it's real and more people who watch it believe it a Documentary than those who don't... and they've now got a very skewed and almost dangerous view of the Royal Family..
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Oh, from what I've read elsewhere, there is quite a bit of truth woven into the fiction, like the Charles and Diana saga. Her interview with Martin Bashir, for example, was quite revealing. Let's face it, their wedding was a sham because Charles was always in love with Camilla. Not sure what you think is "skewed" and "almost dangerous."
 
Catballou said:
Oh, from what I've read elsewhere, there is quite a bit of truth woven into the fiction, like the Charles and Diana saga. Her interview with Martin Bashir, for example, was quite revealing. Let's face it, their wedding was a sham because Charles was always in love with Camilla. Not sure what you think is "skewed" and "almost dangerous."
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When you find out what "skewed"and "almost dangerous" means.
Please let me know!
 
Sunny said:
I'm near the end of the fourth season of this excellent series on Netflix. This season is a humdinger, mainly about the tragedy of Charles and Diana, but also with quite a bit about Margaret Thatcher, and one episode about apartheid in South Africa. It's beautifully, shot and the acting is terrific.

The Queen seems like a pretty cold character to me. Her devotion is entirely to the crown, to royalty, and to the "people of the commonwealth," though she doesn't really seem to care about people very much at all, starting with her own children. And her sister's happiness was thrown away; Elizabeth could have stopped that.

A few years ago, the movie The Queen showed her in pretty much the same light, immediately after Diana's death. So I guess it's pretty much on the mark.
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Tish said:
@hollydolly I completely agree with you, It is a huge danger to the Royal Family, it's a complete smear campaign.
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What "danger" are you talking about? Their reputation isn't exactly stellar.
 
hollydolly said:
Just to reiterate what most of us know that almost none of the Crown is based on real life...

here Lady Anne Glenconner, Princess Margaret's lady in waiting says what she thinks of The Crown..

The Crown's portrayal of the Royal Family is 'complete fantasy' and 'so unfair', Lady Anne Glenconner, the late Princess Margaret's lady-in-waiting, has said.

The socialite, 90, who was a maid of honour at Queen Elizabeth II's coronation, told BBC Radio 4's Woman's Hour that the show 'just makes me so angry'.

She said: 'The trouble is that people, especially in America, believe it completely. It's so irritating. I don't watch The Crown now because it just makes me so angry. And it's so unfair on members of the royal family.'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...mplete-fantasy-says-Lady-Anne-Glenconner.html
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Almost none of it is based on real life? So, Charles wasn't in love with Camilla throughout his sham marriage to Diana? The interview Diana had with Martin Bashir didn't happen? Diana wasn't killed in a horrific car crash? Margaret Thatcher and Winston Churchill didn't serve as Prime Ministers? The Queen didn't own Corgi dogs? I would say that it's ALL based on real life, but dramatized.

I realize you live in London and may have a fondness for the Royal Family. Maybe your opinion is a bit biased. Not everyone sees them as people who should be revered.
 
I’ve watched parts of some episodes, but it comes across to me as a fictionalised soap opera, and I don’t watch soap operas. I can’t think of anything more mind numbing than a soap opera.

There have been calls in the UK for Netflix to put a disclaimer on the series pointing out that it’s mostly fiction.

The British secretary of state for digital, culture, media and sport (Oliver Dowden) said, “It’s a beautifully produced work of fiction. So as with other TV productions, Netflix should be very clear at the beginning it is just that,”. “Without this, I fear a generation of viewers who did not live through these events may mistake fiction for fact.”

Netflix response was that they have faith that its viewers realise much of the drama on the series is fictionalised. Netflix went on to say “We have always presented ‘The Crown’ as a drama — and we have every confidence our members understand it’s a work of fiction that’s broadly based on historical events,”

Diana’s brother, Earl Charles Spencer, said, "The worry for me is that people see a program like that and they forget that it is fiction," "They assume — especially foreigners, I find Americans tell me they have watched The Crown as if they have taken a history lesson. Well, they haven't." The Earl continued by saying, "It is very hard, there is a lot of conjecture and a lot of invention, isn't there? You can hang it on fact but the bits in between are not fact."
 
Catballou said:
Almost none of it is based on real life? So, Charles wasn't in love with Camilla throughout his sham marriage to Diana? The interview Diana had with Martin Bashir didn't happen? Diana wasn't killed in a horrific car crash? Margaret Thatcher and Winston Churchill didn't serve as Prime Ministers? The Queen didn't own Corgi dogs? I would say that it's ALL based on real life, but dramatized.

I realize you live in London and may have a fondness for the Royal Family. Maybe your opinion is a bit biased. Not everyone sees them as people who should be revered.
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I am a Londoner too and I tell it as it is.
Tampongate is no fiction...
 
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