Who Won't Opt For The Vaccine

ProTruckDriver said:
My Oncologist told me "Do Not Get It". With Leukemia (CLL) and Agammaglobulinemia he told me it will be a few years before I can get it. Looks like I'll be wearing a face mask when I go out and staying home for a long time. I do get the seasonal Flu shot every year. I'll sit back and watch the effects the vaccine has on other people for the next few years. Hopefully all will go well.
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I’ll have to try and ask my oncologist, I see him next week. I have MDS.
 

Sunny said:
Becky, go back and reread what I said. It was:

But I hate to see people deliberately taking stupid risks.

Saying someone is taking a stupid risk is not the same thing as calling a person "stupid." We all take stupid risks at times, or have in the past. Nobody is calling you stupid. Calm down.
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No....you're not calling a person stupid. You're just implying it. :rolleyes:
 

Sunny said:
That has already occurred to several of us, Win. I do appreciate the extreme generosity of those who are putting themselves in harm's way in order to make the vaccine available to the rest of us.

Becky, stop trying to tell me what I may or may not say on this forum. If I think a risk is stupid, I will say it. Example: there is an item in another thread about a party that was shut down in Chicago, attended by over 300 people. I also read about a similar wedding that was secretively held in Brooklyn, with a huge crowd packed into the hall. Can you come up with a better word than "stupid?"
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Then you have to respect me for the hero I am. 😂 😂 😇 😁
 
My arm was definitely sore after the first shingles shot, not after the second. DH had no issues. Our friends both had it at another pharmacy and were quite ill for several days.
 
Jules, all these vaccines have different reactions from all of us. In very rare cases, people do get seriously ill. It's a calculated risk. I'd rather take that chance than have a serious risk of getting a terrible, possibly fatal, disease.
 
I know I am a practicing paranoid ;) but I don't have much faith in Big Pharma being transparent about adverse reactions and after affects in the case of COVID vaccines.

Most of these are learned about during tests and trials that are done before a drug is released for general use. Records are kept and accurate results are publicized by law.

Because it is so new, long-term tests and trials of Covid vaccine will be done with the general public acting as guiana pig.

Will there be accurate records kept and factual information publicized or will knowledge about results be distributed by rumor and innuendo as was done prior to legislative action requiring disclosure?

I'm old as dirt so I remember those times.
 
gennie said:
I know I am a practicing paranoid ;) but I don't have much faith in Big Pharma being transparent about adverse reactions and after affects in the case of COVID vaccines.

Most of these are learned about during tests and trials that are done before a drug is released for general use. Records are kept and accurate results are publicized by law.

Because it is so new, long-term tests and trials of Covid vaccine will be done with the general public acting as guiana pig.

Will there be accurate records kept and factual information publicized or will knowledge about results be distributed by rumor and innuendo as was done prior to legislative action requiring disclosure?

I'm old as dirt so I remember those times.
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Well, at our age how much more time do you think we have? How much more time should we want? I could go another couple of years or die in an hour do to my medical issues. I am not being dramatic, with a brain aneurysm on the carotid artery it is a real possibility

So do I stay in my house, or reclaim a bit of life by taking the vaccine? It always comes down to a choice. I want to go and see my daughter, she wants me to see her house. I want to see my great granddaughter, who will soon be 3. I want to see my SIL.

I should see mother before she dies, mean old thing that she is. Oh, brother and SIL as we all struggle to stay alive even without the virus complication. So, while I am on the fence because of possible side effects (not long term side effects, 😂, my term is not going to be long) I am taking the vaccine (edited I put virus, not taking virus), seeing the relatives and then; if GOD calls I am good to go. 🤓
 
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Aneeda, I feel the same. At my age, I feel it is wasted unless there is an overabundance of the vaccine and I'm pretty sure I'll be history before that comes about.

My concern about the validity of information was not for myself. It is for the rest of the world and even though I won't be a part of it for many more years, I still have concern for others.
 
gennie said:
Aneeda, I feel the same. At my age, I feel it is wasted unless there is an overabundance of the vaccine and I'm pretty sure I'll be history before that comes about.

My concern about the validity of information was not for myself. It is for the rest of the world and even though I won't be a part of it for many more years, I still have concern for others.
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I actually meant to say I am taking the vaccine, I miswrote. I think there will be an overabundance of vaccine as a lot of people will not take it at first for a variety of reasons. But I want to see my family so it’s worth the risk to me.
 
Sunny said:
Why?
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I think as people are learning more and more about the virus and observing more and more inconsistencies related to the virus, in addition to reports surrounding medical advice, and, efforts being made to contain it, slow it, and eradicate it, more and more deaf-ears are tuning-out the likes of Fauci, and others.

I for one don't care what Fauci, has to say, and I pay no attention to him or his reports.
 
For myself, (as do my colleagues,) I trust Dr. Fauci. I also trust our Provincial Health Officer, Dr. Bonnie Henry. I am more than satisfied with both their credentials, and their character. I am well aware of the disastrous toll of Covid. I am saying far too many goodbyes via telephone. Four

vets this week, and counting. The most recent, a 24 year old mother. Totally unexpected. At this juncture, our best hope is a vaccine, the sooner the better. During this time of plague, survival is a major gamble. I cast my vote for the experts. Imperfect or otherwise, science will see us through this crucial and momentous step toward protecting our species from the worst health crisis in a century.
 
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Shalimar said:
For myself, (as do my colleagues,) I trust Dr. Fauci. I also trust our Provincial Health Officer, Dr. Bonnie Henry. I am more than satisfied with both their credentials, and their character.

I am well aware of the disastrous toll of Covid. I am saying far too many goodbyes via telephone. Four vets this week, and counting. The most recent, a 24 year old mother. Totally unexpected. At this juncture, our best hope is a vaccine, the sooner the better. During this time of plague, survival is a major gamble. I cast my vote for the experts. Imperfect or otherwise, science will see us through this crucial and momentous step toward protecting our species from the worst health crisis in a century.
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Beautifully said. So perfectly expressed that I keep rereading the portion that I put in bold text because it succinctly explains my position.

I trust science. Then again, my father was a scientist who taught us that, in science, one of the greatest follies is remaining emotionally attached to hypotheses or conclusions. True scientists let go of flawed expectations, and keep moving as evidence mounts and leads them onward.

Did Fauci get it right in the very beginning? He did not. But he's publicly acknowledged every misstep, explained how the data led him and others there, and revised his recommendations as the data came in. More than that I cannot ask.
 
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Pepper said:
I heard from "my" hospital yesterday. Seems I made their list of who they want to vaccinate among the first, after the essentials, I guess. I want to wait. I will wait, won't be talked into it.
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I thought about this before replying. No, they cannot force you to take it. But there could be repercussions from mild to severe. You could be fired. Your Health insurance could refuse to pay benefits if you get Covid and need treatment. I am sure there could be other issues, but I think these would be the top two.

They have started giving the vaccine in UK and will give it in Wales soon. We should know more about side effects soon. But I would rethink your position. IMO. But, hey, it’s your decision so do what you want.
 
debodun said:
Will the vaccine be any benefit to those that have already contracted COVID?
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I am sure it will as you can re-catch it, however, those individuals will be the last to get the vaccine, I think. They already have some protection for a while.
 
Aneeda72 said:
You could be fired. Your Health insurance could refuse to pay benefits if you get Covid and need treatment.

They have started giving the vaccine in UK and will give it in Wales soon. We should know more about side effects soon. But I would rethink your position. IMO. But, hey, it’s your decision so do what you want.
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Fired? What gave you that impression? I haven't worked for 19 years. Thanks (((Aneeda))). I am rethinking my position.

Fired? :LOL: 😁🙃 Thanks, I liked that.

eta: no private insurance, no one to threaten me! :ROFLMAO:
 
I expect we'll hear the same B.S. we hear about the flu shot.
When people start asking why so many people get Covid after getting the vaccine, they'll say, "Well....even if the vaccine doesn't prevent Covid, your illness will be shorter."
 
I remember getting the flu shot for the first time years ago (over 20 years) and got VERY sick. I vowed never to take it again. I would not get the COVID vaccine. I read you have to get 2 injections. The first one you may feel very sick (which means it's working) and you have to take the second injection... REALLY!!!! I will pass. Sadly, I feel people in the healthcare and education fields may be required to take it.
 

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