The Anti People are Wrong!

Mike

Mike

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There is so much against all Governments Worldwide
about this Covid-19, they don't want to wear a mask,
they don't want to isolate, they don't want to do what
their own Government say to do.

This I believe is caused by the description of symptoms
of the virus, Flu like sniffles, persistent coughs, loss of
taste and smell, each description on its own is a mild
event in most minds, so they think it is a bad case of Flu
and not a killer.

If it was described along the one for Ebola, there would
be no rebellious demonstrations or any need for the
Police to break things up because nobody would be out
on the streets.

It is time that they, the leaders came up with a better way
of describing this Pandemic.

Mike.
 

I think it important that the authorities tell it true because any attempt to overstate the symptoms would only cause people to distrust them more. Fear is not a very good motivator IMO.

My motivation is two fold - if I contact the virus and die of it then my husband is widowed and he won't cope very well, but if I don't die of it then I may infect others. If I can I would rather not do that. Either way, I will try to avoid catching if at all possible.

Right now we are waiting for news about our last remaining auntie who is dying. She has had a major stroke and the doctors are waiting for nature to take its course. She has been living in an aged care facility and during the COVID lockdown, when some nursing homes were rather deadly places, and we were unable to visit her for months. At 93 this was very hard on her but the staff managed to keep all of the residents safe from COVID. If they hadn't, the old people would have been dropping like flies. I am grateful to them for the care they lavished on the residents and I think that we should take as much care of each other as we can by modifying our own behaviour and by lining up for vaccination when it becomes available.
 
I am sorry to hear about your Auntie Warrigal.

Most people in here are like you, don't get, but if you
do keep it to yourself.

The protesters are mainly under forty years old I think
and they all feel indestructible.

I didn't mean that the description should be a false one,
but one with more understanding of the severity that it
is, in language that everybody understands, I used Ebola
as an example, if it was so, we would not see anybody
that was against the measures required.

Mike.
 

Sad cases like that are kept quiet, Warrigal, all the high
profile ones like President Trump, Prime Minister Johnson,
Prince Charles and Prince William, all came back quickly
from the virus.

That gives the anti people more proof in their eyes that it
is not so bad, unfortunately it is too late now to change
their attitudes.

Mike.
 
They need to quit dinking around with the mere suggestions to wear a mask and talk about the all the horrible things that CAN happen and they need to crack down on the rules for masking and distancing with a no tolerance policy. But they're standing by and just shrugging their shoulders and letting the crap happen.
 
Every day our numbers are climbing and our stupid Governor won't do anything about it except run a masking campaign. Like people are gonna see that and think Oh hey! I should mask up! Whatever! It's not gonna happen like that. This is a pandemic not a frickin bedtime story.
 
MarciKS said:
Every day our numbers are climbing and our stupid Governor won't do anything about it except run a masking campaign. Like people are gonna see that and think Oh hey! I should mask up! Whatever! It's not gonna happen like that. This is a pandemic not a frickin bedtime story.
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No mask requirement in Kansas? Here, masks have been required for several months, but.....they keep reporting spiking numbers.
 
win231 said:
No mask requirement in Kansas? Here, masks have been required for several months, but.....they keep reporting spiking numbers.
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It doesn't help that bars were open. How can one drink with a mask on .. and people drinking and getting loud are going to social-distance? Our Mayor needs to be tougher.
 
Pinky said:
It doesn't help that bars were open. How can one drink with a mask on .. and people drinking and getting loud are going to social-distance? Our Mayor needs to be tougher.
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Teehee. I've never met a drinker who is capable of social distancing.
A couple of months ago, I was visiting friends when one of their friends showed up. I'd met her before & we all like to chat. She's a drinker.
I said something funny. She got up, said "Screw Covid, you're awesome," & grabbed me & hugged me.
Well, I just laughed & said, "Now we both have it."
 
If every possible measure is taken to limit virus transmission then it will be 2-3 weeks before the trend of infections turns down and even longer for the death rate. Just wearing a mask is not enough. People don't necessarily wear them properly or constantly after leaving the house. Washable masks need to be washed, surgical masks need to be changed and the mask discarded after a couple of hours.

If I might make this analogy - wearing a mask is partially effective, just like an umbrella. However, an umbrella won't keep you dry in all conditions and circumstances. Sometimes you need galoshes, a mackintosh and a sou'wester as well to be properly protected. For COVID the equivalent extras are social distancing, widespread testing, social isolation/mandatory quarantine and bans of large gatherings. Very hard to get people to agree to these during Summer and holidays. Uninhibited socialisation fuels the case numbers and the death rate. It isn't rocket science. The social restrictions are costly but necessary.
 
People seem to minimize everything. How many times have you heard someone say, "It's just the flu"? Well, back in 2015, my husband caught the flu despite having gotten his flu shot. He ended up being intubated, on the breathing machine in the ICU for 11 days. The doctor told me honestly that he didn't know if my husband was going to make it. Thank God he did.

And I understand that Covid is even worse for many people. I saw a story in the NY Times about a man who ended up needing a double lung transplant.

I don't care what anyone says, I've taken it very seriously ever since day one and I'll go on doing so.
 
You would rather risk death than sit at home for a while. Good Lord. That's just plain ridiculous. It's not going to kill any of us to spend time alone for a while for crying out loud. You act like you're dying. Get some hobbies and some patience.
 
win231 said:
No mask requirement in Kansas? Here, masks have been required for several months, but.....they keep reporting spiking numbers.
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Ditto. Makes you wonder doesn't it? This is why I continue to believe masking and isolating are not the answer and lockdowns are ridiculous. It's all not working so we need to think of something else.
 
chic said:
Ditto. Makes you wonder doesn't it? This is why I continue to believe masking and isolating are not the answer and lockdowns are ridiculous. It's all not working so we need to think of something else.
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Chic there is a mask mandate here but no one enforces it. They merely suggest we follow it. Which they won't because there's no penalty. So they just run around acting all entitled to their own free will. It's not the masks that are the problem. It's the people.
 
MarciKS said:
Chic there is a mask mandate here but no one enforces it. They merely suggest we follow it. Which they won't because there's no penalty. So they just run around acting all entitled to their own free will. It's not the masks that are the problem. It's the people.
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Where I live, we've had a no mask/no service law in place since April. Clearly masking up is not the answer otherwise why do case numbers continue to rise? No bars are open here either. Indoor dining is almost nonexistent. So it's just not the answer. I don't know what is, but masking doesn't seem to be doing what it's supposed to do. There must be another way. That's all I can say.
 
chic said:
Where I live, we've had a no mask/no service law in place since April. Clearly masking up is not the answer otherwise why do case numbers continue to rise? No bars are open here either. Indoor dining is almost nonexistent. So it's just not the answer. I don't know what is, but masking doesn't seem to be doing what it's supposed to do. There must be another way. That's all I can say.
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It's not the answer because it's what they do when they're not masked. Do you understand this?
 
MarciKS said:
It's not the answer because it's what they do when they're not masked. Do you understand this?
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A couple of weeks ago, my sister & I were planning to celebrate an elderly friend's birthday at our house with 3-4 people. We had to postpone it because we both got colds that evening & we didn't want to give anything to our friends.
What's relevant (and interesting) was that we were puzzled about where we got colds from. During the 3 days prior, neither of us left the house; we just didn't have anywhere to go. Before those 3 days, we both wore masks outside & while shopping because they're required here.

So.....since colds are viruses (part of the Coronavirus family, in fact) and we were home for 3 days prior & we wore masks before that, how did we both get colds? And, if a mask couldn't prevent a cold virus, it couldn't prevent any virus.

What's happening is, people are frustrated, angry & scared & some people deal with those emotions by looking for people to blame.
When my nephew found out his mother & I both had colds, the FIRST thing he said was, "I gave her my cold because I was irresponsible."
He is an otherwise-intelligent person with a wife & 2 kids....who I will probably never speak to again.
 
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Butterfly said:
And remember that Broadway actor? I think Nick Cordero may have been his name -- he ended up having to have a leg amputated and then died anyway after being in intensive care for months. And he was a young, fit man.
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And when he arrived at the hospital, he was tested at least 4 times for Covid. 3 negative & 1 positive.
 
win231 said:
A couple of weeks ago, my sister & I were planning to celebrate an elderly friend's birthday at our house with 3-4 people. We had to postpone it because we both got colds that evening & we didn't want to give anything to our friends.
What's relevant (and interesting) was that we were puzzled about where we got colds from. During the 3 days prior, neither of us left the house; we just didn't have anywhere to go. Before those 3 days, we both wore masks outside & while shopping because they're required here.

So.....since colds are viruses (part of the Coronavirus family, in fact) and we were home for 3 days prior & we wore masks before that, how did we both get colds? And, if a mask couldn't prevent a cold virus, it couldn't prevent any virus.

What's happening is, people are frustrated, angry & scared & some people deal with those emotions by looking for people to blame.
When my nephew found out his mother & I both had colds, the FIRST thing he said was, "I gave her my cold because I was irresponsible."
He is an otherwise-intelligent person with a wife & 2 kids....who I will probably never speak to again.
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We are told here that a mask won't stop you getting
the virus!

If you have the virus, the mask will stop you passing
it to others.

Mike.
 

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