Mother Of 12 House Burned Down

Y’know, abuse isn’t just physical. It can be sexual, mental, financial, emotional, psychological.

I have 5 children. Do you judge me for having had that many children with an abuser before I found the courage to leave?

As an abuse survivor, I find some of these comments shockingly judgmental and callous. The kindest thing I can say is that you are woefully ignorant of the dynamic of abuse. Educate yourself before you judge.
 

fmdog44 said:
I notice the BMW's and new SUVs lined up for free food handouts every day.
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Not quite the same. The people in those pricey vehicles bought them when they could afford them- before Covid closed down their employment.
 

Ronni said:
Y’know, abuse isn’t just physical. It can be sexual, mental, financial, emotional, psychological.

I have 5 children. Do you judge me for having had that many children with an abuser before I found the courage to leave?

As an abuse survivor, I find some of these comments shockingly judgmental and callous. The kindest thing I can say is that you are woefully ignorant of the dynamic of abuse. Educate yourself before you judge.
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5 kids isn't 12.
 
Aunt Marg said:
I'm not going to be so quick to buy into all that you posted, Butter, even though you voice a number of valid points that could apply to a situation as this.

The homes in the neighbourhood of the 6400 block of Pinewood Trace, look to be above average, which brings me to my first point of contention. How does a single mother of 12 children afford a home in the 6400 block of Pinewood Trace?

My next point of contention, if the single mother of 12 (in fact) can and was affording to pay the mortgage on her home situated in the 6400 block of Pinewood Trace, then surely if she was struggling to keep afloat financially, and knowing that 12 children were under the roof of such home, one would think that family or friends would step in and help the mother cover the cost of insurance, even if it was monthly.

I find it hard to believe that a financial institution (any financial institution) would write a mortgage to a buyer without conditions of insurance attached to such a dwelling, and if by chance insurance requirements in the USofA mirror the same in Canada, where homeowners holding a free and clear title on the property can wave any all insurance on such, then the mother had plenty of equity to tap into in order to ensure her home was insured accordingly.

The GoFundMe account has now bypassed the $30,000 mark, which I'm certain will not even begin to cover replacing the fire-ravaged home with a new home.

There's a whole lot not adding up with this story.
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Do we know if she was the owner of the house?
 
CarolfromTX said:
Judgmental? Yes, it is. But she apparently stayed in the relationship long enough to have 12 children, which is a lot of mouths to feed and a lot of little bodies to clothe. That's bad decision making. Or perhaps a series of relationships resulted in 12 children. Also bad decision making. I hope she can find help and learn to make better decisions. The choices you make determine the life you lead.
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Agree completely here.
 
win231 said:
Not quite the same. The people in those pricey vehicles bought them when they could afford them- before Covid closed down their employment.
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Perhaps then sell them and purchase more affordable transportation?

Captain Obvious here ....... This year has just been so hard on so many. Many of whom I'm sure were self sufficient until the china virus came along.

I do not have much real hope for it but ... I surely hope 2021 turns things around.
 
Wonderful to see the level of compassion expressed for this domestic abuse survivor mother of 11 children whose living space burned down.

Which of her much mentioned bad decisions caused this to happen to her? Was it her decision to bear and raise her children rather than aborting them, or her decision to keep her family together rather than dumping them in foster care, or was it her decision to escape an abusive environment? Or is it just generally OK for awful things to happen to people who make allegedly bad decisions?
 
rgp said:
Perhaps then sell them and purchase more affordable transportation?

Captain Obvious here ....... This year has just been so hard on so many. Many of whom I'm sure were self sufficient until the china virus came along.

I do not have much real hope for it but ... I surely hope 2021 turns things around.
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If the vehicle is leased, she would have to pay the entire lease off or pay a big penalty to turn the vehicle in. Or, she would have to find someone to take over the lease.
If the vehicle wasn't paid off, she would have to sell it & might take a big loss & she would still have to purchase another used vehicle.
 
Butterfly said:
Wonderful to see the level of compassion expressed for this domestic abuse survivor mother of 11 children whose living space burned down.

Which of her much mentioned bad decisions caused this to happen to her? Was it her decision to bear and raise her children rather than aborting them, or her decision to keep her family together rather than dumping them in foster care, or was it her decision to escape an abusive environment? Or is it just generally OK for awful things to happen to people who make allegedly bad decisions?
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LOL. Nice try at making it sound like women just become pregnant automatically; it just happens all by itself without any action on her part. 😂
 
I find it difficult to feel much compassion for a person who has made a long series of bad decisions, including having no insurance. And no back up plan. But I do feel sorry for her.
 
Sometimes one has to make choices like not carrying insurance. If she didn't the family probably would've been broken up put in foster homes etc. I don't know maybe that would've been better or keeping the family together served them just as well. I'm sure a go fund me drive will wind up helping them.

Hope this family has a better new year.
 
Robert59 said:
Here is the news on t.v. about this family.
https://abc13.com/pinewood-trace-house-fire-cy-fair-nw-houston-1-alarm/9002719/
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I'm not to good at guessing the age of children so if my guess of the youngest child in the family picture is at the age of 2 I could be wrong.

According to the video the oldest is 22 he was the one walking the the reporter thru the house. According to the original post she left Louisana in 2017 due to abuse. Didn't say spousal abuse just abuse. If my math is right that is 3 years. Hmmmmmm 2 yr. old and left 3 years ago for abuse?

It's to bad no information has ever been available for abused women to listen to & evaluate their situation.

Meanwhile listening to the mother talk I think it's reasonable to conclude she doesn't have a job that pays 6 figures or more so why not explain how she managed to live in a home valued at 3 to 400 hundred thousand dollars. That and to have & insure vehicles she was able to save.

I could be wrong but I suspect the people of Texas & thru federal programs this family of 12 lives really well from social programs aimed at helping people be able to get off assistance.

All in all I feel sorry for the kids especially the one showing a gang sign in the family pic. The others hopefully will become working members of society contributing to the welfare of those less fortunate.
 
The house must have been rented by this family, and the owner probably does have insurance.

The article I found said the fire started around 4 AM in the garage. I wonder what was going on in the garage at 4 AM to start a fire? Some of those kids are teenagers. Were they all in bed at 4 AM? So far, I haven't seen one word about the cause of the fire. Could it have been arson? Racism? Teenagers fiddling around with drugs? Who knows? Lots of omissions in this story.

I think the number of children she had is kind of irrelevant. Children are not combustible; if you have more than a certain number, they don't go up in flames. Would the family have been any more deserving of help if there were, say, 6 children? Three? Two? How many is an okay number?

Knight, I'm curious: You mention that the article said she suffered abuse, not necessarily spousal abuse. Why does that make a difference?
 
I remember owners of multi family homes having insurance on the property called a "fire policy". It only covered damage to the structure not only by fire, but by other named perils as well.. Not the contents.

The coverage to the contents was up to the renter, by way of a renter's policy.
 
Sunny said:
Knight, I'm curious: You mention that the article said she suffered abuse, not necessarily spousal abuse. Why does that make a difference?
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The difference IMO is financial support. If married then the article should have indicated that fact. Financial help from a spouse might explain her ability to live in a 3 to 400 thousand home & have vehicles.

If not married then having children from one or more sex partners over the 22 years would mean to me a way to milk the system of societal support in the form of EBT & welfare. Info lacking in the article about how she was able to afford all it takes to house, feed, clothe & care for the 11 children not available to read. So yes I do suspect she was milking the system. I also suspect the system was about to end support so the fire was a convenient way to extend her benefits. I'm allowed to speculate since no real information is in the article.

Abuse was claimed but the article didn't show what kind or any medical documentation of mental or physical to prove the claim.

If abuse began early in whatever relationship she had and her moral compass was towards providing by her own efforts a good life for a child then she could at any child birth asked to have her tubes tied.

Bottom line the article presents just enough info to generate sympathy for her & especially the children. I do empathize for the children but given the amount of information available over the years to help abused women to separate themselves from that situation. I don't have much sympathy for the "mother".

I'm also speculating that many posting have similar thoughts just to polite to post as I just did.
 
Could be section 8, etc. Wish there were more programs to help with housing.
 

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