Mother Of 12 House Burned Down

Bonnie said:
Houston Housing Authority, like most other cities, has a share of fairly new homes that they let the poor live in.. and theses houses are all over the city. ...was Section 8.
HHA gets their money from the government. I have no idea how it is all spread around to the agencies, and how they get their cuts for these programs.

Vouchers are given out to the people on these Aid programs who have little or nothing.
In turn, those people are required to pay for their housing with a percentage of those vouchers they receive.
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I didn't realize they are giving out 400K - 500K or more homes as section 8. 😲
 

ProTruckDriver said:
I didn't realize they are giving out 400K - 500K or more homes as section 8. 😲
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I wonder how many "affordable" homes are available for a family this size for much less than this. But, how do you know what they paid for their home, or if they own it vs. renting it? I suspect the home is owned by some local social service agency, or may be privately owned by is rented by the social service agency. So before we all get our bloomers in a bunch about deadbeats being able somehow to buy a nice suburban home like this, shouldn't we at least know they do, in fact, own the house?

Jeez!

P.S. Just FYI, I live in a very nice, some might say luxury condo development. It's a gated community for seniors, with all kinds of amenities, beautiful landscaping, built around a golf course, etc.

Yet. a limited number of apartments and stand-alone homes are designated as Section 8. So what?
 
Becky1951 said:
A fire in the garage.
Simple, garage's have electricity and faulty worn or frayed wires do start fires.
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True but that typically is due to the age of the home. That home didn't look that old to be built so long ago that wiring built to code would not have been in place.

Just another fact not presented, if the cause was presented that could end speculation about the cause.
 
It's not the age of the home or the neighborhood, it's the quality of the workmanship. Many electrical fires begin when too many things are plugged into one source.
 
Knight said:
For 22 years & no mention of a husband? Granted the woman may not be the brightest bulb in the pack but at some point continuing to have children when no mention of a job or income source even the most sympathetic person has to wonder how she supports that many.

I wonder by posting what I think. I think the more
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win231 said:
People who stay with an abuser have had their self esteem nullified long before they met their future abuser. They choose poorly because that's what they're accustomed to beforehand. The source is often their parents.
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Quote your source. Link your reference. Show your psych degree. If you can’t do that then your opinion has zero credence.
 
Sunny said:
P.S. Just FYI, I live in a very nice, some might say luxury condo development. It's a gated community for seniors, with all kinds of amenities, beautiful landscaping, built around a golf course, etc.
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FYI, so do I with the exception of a golf course. It will be 1 year this March that we live here.
Sunny said:
Yet. a limited number of apartments and stand-alone homes are designated as Section 8. So what?
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They were talking about putting section 8 here about 4 months months ago and decided not to when a large number of residents started putting in their notice to move. I don't know about other places but here in the Tidewater Area of Virginia section 8 areas are really worn down, even the new homes they built for section 8 people are in bad shape. It looks like a majority of section 8 people do not take care of the property they are living in.
 
Pepper said:
It's not the age of the home or the neighborhood, it's the quality of the workmanship. Many electrical fires begin when too many things are plugged into one source.
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True as in the home Debudon has explained about her older home.
Hard to believe that McMansion pictured would not be up to code thus tripping a circuit breaker before a fire could happen. But until the cause is known we get to speculate :)

Each device uses a certain amount of electricity when it's operating, adding to the total load on the circuit, but when you try to use more electricity than your circuit is made for, you get a circuit overload. This causes the breaker to trip, which shuts off the power supply to that circuit. Apr 1, 2020

What is an Electrical Circuit Overload?www.electricteam.com ›

I could understand an old home with a fuse panel that people would put a 50amp fuse in a 20 amp circuit but with strict guide lines about wire size & installation & circuit breakers not fuses, that hazard has been curtailed. Google Huston city electrical panel requirements. There is a lengthy pdf outlining what is required.
 
Irwin said:
An anonymous donor gave her $100,000. On the surface that sounds good, but that's probably going to make her ineligible for welfare, so she might be worse off in the long run.
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Exactly ... If she gets that money, she will have to figure out how to live on her own.
 
Irwin said:
An anonymous donor gave her $100,000. On the surface that sounds good, but that's probably going to make her ineligible for welfare, so she might be worse off in the long run.
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The article lacked a lot of info. Living on welfare not mentioned, living in section 8 housing not mentioned, marital status not mentioned. The only real info was a mother of 11 was living in a house in Huston that burned down.

From that this thread has been all over the place with speculation, and real life experiences relating to abuse. Interesting enough to generate over 90 posts.
 
You‘d expect the donor did a deep dive into the whole story prior to the donation and was satisfied with the history.
 
Of course some people will say they’re going to donate and it never happens. They do have a substantial amount already in the GFM account.
 
Sunny said:
True, although if the garage was just being used for the "intended purpose," how did it burst into flames all by itself at 4 AM? Just thinking out loud, I always wonder about the causes of fires. This has nothing to do with having compassion for this woman and her family. They are Black; it could have been racism. (Especially these days!)

Speaking of which, some of the replies in this thread seem to be suggesting that this woman is an evil schemer, popping out baby after baby in an effort to "milk the system." From the sketchy details given in this article, it sounds like anything but. My guess is that she did make some bad choices, got herself trapped in an abusive relationship (or series of them), may have had a husband/boyfriend who refused to let her use birth control - and yes, I once worked with a guy who boasted about that - and didn't have the resources to escape from the nightmare she was living in. Sounds like she finally did escape, and found some help.

We don't know what rent she was paying, or who provided the home she was living in. Could have been made available by a social service agency or charitable organization. Or, as some have suggested, Section 8. Yes, some Section 8 homes are in very nice neighborhoods, they are not necessarily in slums. That's probably a disappointment to those who want Biblical retribution.

The whole scenario of people who are living high on the hog while pretending to be poor has a familiar foul odor. Looking at life through the prism of narrow morality prompts predictable holier-than-thou sermonizing. She has 12 children? Well, the reason HAS to be be that she's figured out how to milk the system.

I know nothing about this case, but my own gut level reaction is that she is a deeply disturbed woman who may have been abused her whole life, she followed poor role models, and until recently didn't have any support system to help her escape. Didn't have her tubes tied? Could have been her religion, her lack of education and information, or the fact that her guy (guys?) had her terrorized.

Seems to be an awful lot of holier-than-thou humphing and sniffing on this subject.
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The news video that was posted earlier here said that they had one car in the garage, which they could get out but they couldn't get the oldest son's truck out because they couldn't find the keys, which to me indiocates the garage was being used for its intended purpose.

Fire could have been a short in an electrical circuit, or who knows. When I was working in LA years ago, there was a funny smell like hot rubber or plastic for a minute or so, not an overwhelming smell, just enough for you to think "what's that funny smell?) and then one entire wall in our office (in an older building) burst into flames -- absolutely out of nowhere. Fire people later decided a short in wiring caused insulation or something in the wall to catch fire. We all got out OK, but I've never forgotten that the only warning was that very short time of odd smell, then boom! a wall of flame. It was very scary.
 
Knight said:
For 22 years & no mention of a husband? Granted the woman may not be the brightest bulb in the pack but at some point continuing to have children when no mention of a job or income source even the most sympathetic person has to wonder how she supports that many.

I wonder by posting what I think. I think the more kids you have with not enough income or any income this mother of 11 used the system to live well above what others that work & struggle do.
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I helped my niece get what welfare and food assistance she could for her and her 3 minor children when she was diagnosed with cancer and could not continue to work. I was surprised at how little it was. Nobody "games the system" and lives high on the hog on what welfare gives you -- at least not here, they don't. Most of that "welfare queen" and "welfare Cadillac" stuff is pure, unadulterated hogwash.
 
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