Do we really “trust in God”?

In 2005, surrendered everything to God as I know Him to be. The Holy Spirit and I became one. God lives within me, I am under His care and protection, I am forgiven.

Whatever happens in life and the world does not matter in comparison with my relationship to God.

In my opinion, humans, think too highly of themselves to realize they are animals too. Like the fish and the insects we are born to live out specific roles in life some are perceived more important than others, BUT so called important roles cannot be played without the support and backing of so called less important roles.

There are no minor roles in life, the mighty and great are equal the meek and mild because they are one in the same carrying out the roles they are given.
 
It pre-supposes that 'God ' is in control of everything that happens. Are there still people/children who actually believe that?
 
I think people get off track by trying to further divide by those who believe or those who don't ........ They do this by asserting that if you think one way you also think .......other things... often by characterizing with some extreme example..
People seem to be more narrow minded and judgmental then ever so sad yet another item people went into an us vs them mode. .....
I never saw belief as an all or nothing proposition ....... is there anything people won't use as a divide.......
People seldom pay attention to a tiny thing printed on something especially as we are often directed to use other forms of electronic payment ......all about data collection they can't track your cash purchases......

Only when someone gets their panties in a bunch and want to make a argument out of anything and everything.......
I honestly think people are bored with their lives and only feel alive by creating drama .............and arguing about literally ANYTHING.
 
Jeni, you're right about people being bored and looking for anything to cause a stir. In the past, people were too busy just trying to survive. They left the thinking to those who had time for it.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
Aneeda, what do you mean by "trusting in God"? I'm not sure what that is. Can you give some examples? Thanks.
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I suppose when people actually say I put it in Gods hands or I trust God to save me or I trust God to help. If you are jumping off a roof, would you trust God to catch you? Jehovah Witness trust God to a certain extent or leave the faith. There is another religion, forget the name, which interact with snakes they trust God or leave the faith.

My point is there is a difference in trusting in God and believing, and having faith in God. I have faith in God. I believe in God. And this applies to the Trinity as well. But I trust no one, and as I read the “who do you trust thread” and Buckeye’s should we remove “trust in God from the money”, I wondered who really trusts God?

I apparently don’t trust God. I believe God gave us free will and expects us to trust ourselves. So, it’s extremely interesting that most everyone talks about belief, love, and faith; but not trust. @fuzzybuddy thanks so much for asking. I think you noticed, on the thread, for the most part the issue of trusting God, has been ignored. Very interesting, don’t you think?
 
Rosemarie said:
It pre-supposes that 'God ' is in control of everything that happens. Are there still people/children who actually believe that?
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There actually are people, children, and full grown educated adults that believe this. I am not one of them.
 
Aneeda72 said:
There actually are people, children, and full grown educated adults that believe this. I am not one of them.
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Its a complex subject obviously, and in some churches you might hear the view expressed, "If we say there is a God, then there is a God", (or words to that effect, which must sound like heresy to other religious groups?).
I'll settle for a very intangible belief, but nonetheless significant, hard to sum up, and full of contradictions, (a good thing my mother said). I admire those who can live what we'd think of as devoted religious lives, where they put their own interests, or selfish desires so much to one side in order to help others. :)
 
I trust physics. Maybe we should have "IN PHYSICS WE TRUST" on our money, although that would be a misnomer since we can't trust our currency that much. Maybe having "IN GOD WE TRUST" is perfect for our money because it's meaningless, and there is no guarantee money is going to be worth anything in the future when our economy comes crashing down from all the debt.
 
Irwin said:
I trust physics. Maybe we should have "IN PHYSICS WE TRUSCeT" on our money, although that would be a misnomer since we can't trust our currency that much. Maybe having "IN GOD WE TRUST" is perfect for our money because it's meaningless, and there is no guarantee money is going to be worth anything in the future when our economy comes crashing down from all the debt.
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Given the level of uncertainty inherent in quantum physics you'd struggle to get much comfort in physics alone, but I think I know what you mean too. :)
 
I too have studied physics, as well as chemistry, mathematics and geology. None of them were any help to me when I sat by the bed of my younger sister who had just delivered her first child as a still born. I had nothing. I was an empty shell. I could not speak.

Atheism can be very inadequate at times like this but I persisted in my belief that there is no higher being and that the only verities are scientific ones. I was wrong.
 
Warrigal said:
I too have studied physics, as well as chemistry, mathematics and geology. None of them were any help to me when I sat by the bed of my younger sister who had just delivered her first child as a still born. I had nothing. I was an empty shell. I could not speak.

Atheism can be very inadequate at times like this but I persisted in my belief that there is no higher being and that the only verities are scientific ones. I was wrong.
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That's a terrible tragedy for any woman to suffer, especially her first. Nothing you can say can assuage the grief and disappointment. I hope she was allowed to hold the baby and they had a proper funeral.
 
That's a terrible tragedy for any woman to suffer, especially her first. Nothing you can say can assuage the grief and disappointment. I hope she was allowed to hold the baby and they had a proper funeral.
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As her older sister, I already had two healthy children. Her first pregnancy ended when she started to bleed at 30 weeks. It was placenta previa but the doctors tried to keep the baby in utero. He died and she had to endure the birth process knowing that she was not delivering a live baby.

I don't think she even saw him. He was not named, nor given a funeral. His remains were taken care of by the hospital, along with all of the other medical waste. She was told to go home and prepare for a second pregnancy.

Her second baby was also premature, delivered at 28 weeks but she survived although she stopped breathing three times. She was baptised in the humicrib by a catholic priest. The nurses took the leftover holy water and added it to the humicrib water. I thought this to be quite superstitious but I was glad that they did it. I visited the hospital and was allowed to look at my tiny niece in the nursery on the other side of a glass window. I could not pray. Atheists have nothing and no-one to pray to. I stood at the window with all of my fingers crossed and muttered "Hang in there, Kiddo". Pathetic really, but God hears even prayers as roughly constructed as mine was.

Later I heard that the students of a local Catholic school were praying for my sister and the baby. I was grateful but still thought that prayers are wasted effort.

Paradoxically, while still a convinced atheist, I applied for and secured a position in that same school as a maths/science teacher. Don't tell me that this was just a co-incidence. It was in my second year at this school that I went on the in-service that I described elsewhere. I stayed at that school for the next 25 years of my life, and my previous emptiness was filled with something that has sustained me ever since. It is called Love, with a capital L.
 
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Warrigal said:
I too have studied physics, as well as chemistry, mathematics and geology. None of them were any help to me when I sat by the bed of my younger sister who had just delivered her first child as a still born. I had nothing. I was an empty shell. I could not speak.

Atheism can be very inadequate at times like this but I persisted in my belief that there is no higher being and that the only verities are scientific ones. I was wrong.
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Your sister had you 😍 for support and love. YOU were what she needed at that time, not an invisible GOD. As the mother of 3 infants who died, as a person who believes in GOD, (and no offense meant), my sons and your sister’s baby had GOD. IMO.

I am so sorry for your sister loss. I know her never ending pain.
 
Rosemarie said:
That's a terrible tragedy for any woman to suffer, especially her first. Nothing you can say can assuage the grief and disappointment. I hope she was allowed to hold the baby and they had a proper funeral.
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Hmm, I am not sure what a proper funeral is and why on earth it would matter.

My newborn was born and immediately transferred to a children’s hospital in an effort to save his life. He was born on Christmas Day and died three days later. I held him inside me, I didn’t need to hold him in “my arms”, and I didn’t. I was fighting my own battle for my life.

I never even saw a picture of him. In the ‘60s, this was standard practice. We had a “proper funeral”. A small white casket that looked liked a styrofoam cooler. In fact, I asked my husband if it was a cooler and had to touch it to reassure myself it was not. We were so poor on those days.

No one went to the proper funeral but us.

In retrospect, I wish I had done cremation as I could have keep him with us until we settled in our forever “state”. I inquired once about moving him here only to be told there was nothing to move. I am unsure if this is true. Now, that I am older, I am unsure if I want to disturb his resting place, probably not.

But I know this. It was the bodies of my sons that died, not their souls. Those boys live as long as I remember them, and I remember them every single day. Nothing else matters.
 
The baby was dispatched without ceremony in the hospital furnace. Because he had never drawn breath his birth was not registered. Legally he never existed. Procedures were very uncaring back then. My sister has never forgotten him though because, as you have said, he was once alive within her body.
 
Warrigal said:
The baby was dispatched without ceremony in the hospital furnace. Because he had never drawn breath his birth was not registered. Legally he never existed. Procedures were very uncaring back then. My sister has never forgotten him though because, as you have said, he was once alive within her body.
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Anyone who had a miscarriage had their baby ”disposed” of in the same way no matter what the age of the fetus. I also had a couple of miscarriages which is how I know. We have come a long way since then.
 
I’m RC Christian and believe that he showed the way to conduct ourselves and TRUST that he will judge us accordingly, if that’s what you mean.

I TRUST that he’ll always forgive those who are repentant. He knows that we are imperfect. Do your best to do the right thing, I believe, is his motto.

Sound simplistic and juvenile? Sorry 'bout that.

He obviously does not get involved in what transpires in the world, otherwise you wouldn’t see all the misery, tragedy, natural disasters, birth defects, unfairness, his own priests abusing children….
 

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