Your views please !! Covid 19

it's kind of the law here.
I don't think masks do much good. (Not going to get into that discussion here please)
I had Covid. wasn't fun. Guess I am immune now?
If I want to go into a store, I wear a mask.
I comply.
 

HoneyNut said:
What I don't understand is where were all these maskless people in previous years, why weren't they showing up barefoot and shirtless and having hysterics that they should be allowed in without shirts and shoes? Apparently foot fungus and BO is more serious to them than an infectious airborne disease.
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I think of it as the toddler syndrome, where once those who choose to buck the system have the attention of others, they stomp their feet, lay on the floor and thrash, kick, buck, and cry.

Attention getters they are plain and simple.
 

Nathan said:
My thoughts exactly. Not only that, but our county and state health officials require masks be worn by customers of all businesses.
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because government turned over any enforcement/ backlash as a requirement for all businesses....

my state list exceptions but when you just tell a person with zero knowledge they can't or won't deal with those that have exceptions.
 
J.B Books said:
it's kind of the law here.
I don't think masks do much good. (Not going to get into that discussion here please)
I had Covid. wasn't fun. Guess I am immune now?
If I want to go into a store, I wear a mask.
I comply.
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I am in same boat as you ..... I had a mild case ( very early on)
I comply but get frustrated when I see what passes an complying..... not because I think masks work ( in this)....
but all those who are convinced they do ......are basing that on an assumption that people are doing it CORRECTLY.

I assist running a respiratory program for a medical lab for a BIO-pharm company ....... when any mask even N95, are mandatory.... we are required to have them do a medical clearance.....,,,,,,,,, and to fit masks and train on use.

This is an OSHA requirement.... and YES some staff are told "NO, you should not be wearing these for a whole shift..."................. these folks often cannot stay if not occupationally cleared.......
Some staff are checked EVERY year because system is monitoring them for damage from long term use..........other healthy staff with no conditions can be cleared for 3-5 years

So there ARE long term effects in wearing this and the general public refuse to believe it...

Why are all these businesses now having people workers ...... just wear them....... and many are NOT Providing them ( OSHA requirement if you mandate wearing them) .................but letting employees wear whatever mask they buy etc..... many of these mandates are NOT following safety guidelines that set out for long term use of mask etc in state version or OSHA requirements.

Seems to me if businesses were concerned about liability their own workers health should be considered..... we will not know what respiratory conditions that were created or compounded by this.

The reason is the medical clearance through an occupational health system is EXPENSIVE......
perhaps we can readdress what laws/ requirements are mandatory good news for businesses forced to follow these guidelines........ if those are now deemed unneeded.
 
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Jeni said:
I am in same boat as you ..... I had a mild case ( very early on)
I comply but get frustrated when I see what passes an complying..... not because I think masks work ( in this)....
but all those who are convinced they do ......are basing that on an assumption that people are doing it CORRECTLY.

I assist running a respiratory program for a medical lab for a BIO-pharm company ....... when any mask even N95, are mandatory.... we are required to have them do a medical clearance.....,,,,,,,,, and to fit masks and train on use.

This is an OSHA requirement.... and YES some staff are told "NO, you should not be wearing these for a whole shift..."................. these folks often cannot stay if not occupationally cleared.......
Some staff are checked EVERY year because system is monitoring them for damage from long term use..........other healthy staff with no conditions can be cleared for 3-5 years

So there ARE long term effects in wearing this and the general public refuse to believe it...

Why are all these businesses now having people workers ...... just wear them....... and many are NOT Providing them ( OSHA requirement if you mandate wearing them) .................but letting employees wear whatever mask they buy etc..... many of these mandates are NOT following safety guidelines that set out for long term use of mask etc in state version or OSHA requirements.

Seems to me if businesses were concerned about liability their own workers health should be considered..... we will not know what respiratory conditions that were created or compounded by this.
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I agree.
But the law is about wearing masks. And they don't want to know how harmful they are. (It's better than nothing right?)
(here we are getting into a discussion I was try to avoid)
It's about appearance of doing something. It's about control.
Shut up and obey! Wear a mask!
 
Jules said:
Interesting. I would like to see this for travel on a plane, since that’s the only way I’ll ever be able to see my kids. It was rumoured they might do this.
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Sadly yes....but your be fine, as long as you;have the jab ..🙄
 
J.B Books said:
I agree.
But the law is about wearing masks. And they don't want to know how harmful they are. (It's better than nothing right?)
(here we are getting into a discussion I was try to avoid)
It's about appearance of doing something. It's about control.
Shut up and obey! Wear a mask!
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It is a very slippery slope ..... a Mandate is NOT equal to a LAW ......
A law can be enforced not shrugged off to retail workers and restaurants.........
 
If you want to live in a civilized society, you have to abide by the rules. Nobody says you have to enjoy the rules, only the benefit of what a civilized society provides. If you want unbridled freedom to do whatever you feel, you live alone in the jungle. You can't do both.
And quite frankly, wearing a mask to stop more millions from getting the virus, is not a bone crushing request. It don't believe anyone's life has been upended by that request, and I doubt that wearing a mask will cause significant post traumatic stress symptoms.
 
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J.B Books said:
I agree.
But the law is about wearing masks. And they don't want to know how harmful they are. (It's better than nothing right?)
(here we are getting into a discussion I was try to avoid)
It's about appearance of doing something. It's about control.
Shut up and obey! Wear a mask!
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Would you trust a surgeon operating on you without a mask? Just asking.
 
Jeni said:
I am in same boat as you ..... I had a mild case ( very early on)
I comply but get frustrated when I see what passes an complying..... not because I think masks work ( in this)....
but all those who are convinced they do ......are basing that on an assumption that people are doing it CORRECTLY.

I assist running a respiratory program for a medical lab for a BIO-pharm company ....... when any mask even N95, are mandatory.... we are required to have them do a medical clearance.....,,,,,,,,, and to fit masks and train on use.

This is an OSHA requirement.... and YES some staff are told "NO, you should not be wearing these for a whole shift..."................. these folks often cannot stay if not occupationally cleared.......
Some staff are checked EVERY year because system is monitoring them for damage from long term use..........other healthy staff with no conditions can be cleared for 3-5 years

So there ARE long term effects in wearing this and the general public refuse to believe it...

Why are all these businesses now having people workers ...... just wear them....... and many are NOT Providing them ( OSHA requirement if you mandate wearing them) .................but letting employees wear whatever mask they buy etc..... many of these mandates are NOT following safety guidelines that set out for long term use of mask etc in state version or OSHA requirements.

Seems to me if businesses were concerned about liability their own workers health should be considered..... we will not know what respiratory conditions that were created or compounded by this.

The reason is the medical clearance through an occupational health system is EXPENSIVE......
perhaps we can readdress what laws/ requirements are mandatory good news for businesses forced to follow these guidelines........ if those are now deemed unneeded.
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So just wear a face shield when shopping, not as good as a mask, IMO, but it does NOT block breathing at all. It is open on the sides.
 
J.B Books said:
I agree.
But the law is about wearing masks. And they don't want to know how harmful they are. (It's better than nothing right?)
(here we are getting into a discussion I was try to avoid)
It's about appearance of doing something. It's about control.
Shut up and obey! Wear a mask!
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Or a face shield, wear a face shield.
 
rgp said:
So then you agree with baker & the photographer that refused to do business with the gay guys a few years back ?

Last I heard, both were forced out of business.
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Like I said... I may not agree with the reasoning behind it... But agree the owner of a private business should not be forced to provide
Goods and or services against their beliefs or will....
The fact the government was allowed to step in and ultimately forced them out of business scares the hell out of me.
 

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