Codebreaker - Alan Turing

I don't know if I could watch that movie, like watching Schindlers List, it breaks my heart so bad, I can't get over it.
 
nwlady said:
Hi Twixie,

I don't know about homosexuals, but I do know that we in the US also had those kinds of places, and treatments:( Horrific, really I think doctors experimented on the mentally ill because they were like "societies" throw-aways:( Someone may ask me for documentation on these acts, so maybe I better look around.

Some of the "good ole days" weren't so good were they:(
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Yes, humans should hang their heads in shame for some of atrocities visited upon their kind all in the name of science. I contracted polio at age 9 in June 1954. I was in the test group of 600,000 nationwide students that were given the sugar cube in the 'double blind' study for the Salk vaccine. It was April 54 when the tests were going on. I contracted polio in June 54 - 2 months later. We had a battery of Fed/State/County health professionals at our door daily. Everyone that showed up seemed to have a oversized needle and wanted blood samples from me and my siblings. Finally my father put a stop to it and refused anymore tests.

It was years later, about 20 years ago that I was contacted by a medical/legal group that were studying the possibility that the government was doing the 50's tests with children and supposedly were giving mild cases of polio to insure that there were enough cases of the ones that received the placebo would get the disease, proving that the vaccine was successful and getting it to the general public. I actually had one vaccine supporter point out that if it was true then our sacrifice saved millions of lives. Tell that to a 9 year old.

I have problems with my back and legs that may or may not be associated with my polio. I told them, 'The damage is done and I've learned to live with it, and I have no intention of making some lawyer rich at my expense, please take my name off the list.' I haven't heard any followup todate.
 

That was one of the hardest reads I've seen on here sop:( I remember getting that vaccine, but I wasn't in a test group or anything. I am so sorry for your suffering. I've often said, the only thing wrong with our world is the people in it:(. It's the good ones that make it bearable.
 
nwlady said:
That was one of the hardest reads I've seen on here sop:( I remember getting that vaccine, but I wasn't in a test group or anything. I am so sorry for your suffering. I've often said, the only thing wrong with our world is the people in it:(. It's the good ones that make it bearable.
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Last response, I did have a mild case. It was like a bad case of the flu, my neck was stiff and my back was sensitive during my recovery, I went into the 4th grade late that year. My family doctor was an old school country doctor. He advised my parents to not make an invalid out of me. Treat me as normal as they can. I played sports, participated in all the activities that other children did. I played high school football and track, I was the slowest runner but because of my size and had hod-carried for my father in the summers I was physically competitive.

In 1963 on a dare from my mother I joined the USAF. I spent time answering questions about my ability to perform my duties before I was cleared to join. I could have easily been classified 4-F if I had wanted. In fact in June during basic my mother informed me in a letter that I had received a full ride scholarship to the university of my choice in Utah because of my handicap. It was a state/fed sponsored award to handicap students.
 
I saw the movie this afternoon. Good movie although, of course, a few of the facts are incorrect.

As for US vs UK in their medieval treatment of gays......
 
Ameriscot said:
Means nothing at all or f-ck all.
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Thanks...a real head-scratcher!:)
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Dame Warrigal said:
There really is a language barrier between the English speaking world and America, isn't there?

:lofl:

Sorry Meanderer, but that question tickled my fancy. Know what I mean? :lol:
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I love to hear the way you guys talk, I may not understand it, but love it, and I get to hear quite a bit on BBC etc.;)
 
Interesting take on Turing in the new book "Dreamers & Deceivers" ... Answers a lot of the comments posted here. Worth the read.
 
All of our countries have done things we are ashamed of, it called hind site. We need to get over it and get on with life.

Ummm.......not sure I should post this, but will anyway. While I was in Kenya I spoke quite awhile with my room attendant. I told him about the African Ame.......and put his hands up and stopped me. He said, "We don't call them that, they have nothing to do with Africa, we call them black Americans, you are a white American". Then I told him about the black Americans wanting compensations for their ancestors being kidnapped and turned into slaves. He looked so shocked....his reply was, "but their in American, God blessed with your country and we are left over here".
 

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