Remember, there is no FDA approved vaccine

Ah.....yes. "Everyone with any common sense is doing what I do." So.....if you don't copy me, you have no common sense & aren't as smart as I am.
Shaming others is your confidence builder & your way to feel better about yourself. All put-down artists possess this trait.
OK, then if I say you should not go for a stroll down the interstate highway, with traffic zooming along at 70 mph, or you should not go for a swim when a tsunami is on the way, or you should not go out and climb up a metallic flagpole during a thunderstorm, because that's just common sense, I am "shaming" you in order to build my own confidence? That's what you just said, Win. 😁
 

OK, then if I say you should not go for a stroll down the interstate highway, with traffic zooming along at 70 mph, or you should not go for a swim when a tsunami is on the way, or you should not go out and climb up a metallic flagpole during a thunderstorm, because that's just common sense, I am "shaming" you in order to build my own confidence? That's what you just said, Win. 😁
Is that really the best you can do? Totally invalid comparisons. 😁
 
This story was in today's Post. It's a fascinating and horrifying description of what's happening to this country, by describing the controversy within one family. One issue tearing them apart is the elderly mother's belief that the vaccine is made of cells from aborted babies (not true). She has fallen into the pit of Qanon beliefs and social media nuttiness. Her five children (who love her dearly and want to keep her alive) are trying their hardest to convince her to get the vaccine. One of them is a physician. But she will not listen to them on this subject. I hope you are able to see the article.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/disinformation-conspiracy-family/
 

This story was in today's Post. It's a fascinating and horrifying description of what's happening to this country, by describing the controversy within one family. One issue tearing them apart is the elderly mother's belief that the vaccine is made of cells from aborted babies (not true). She has fallen into the pit of Qanon beliefs and social media nuttiness. Her five children (who love her dearly and want to keep her alive) are trying their hardest to convince her to get the vaccine. One of them is a physician. But she will not listen to them on this subject. I hope you are able to see the article.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/disinformation-conspiracy-family/
Someone needs to tell them about antibody treatment and give her some personal space. You'd think the physician family member would know...

People make choices to wait that aren't fringe belief based. My internist is going to watch the data for a year or so before he gets the vaccine. Some physicians who have practiced for years do that personally for a lot a pharmaceutical roll outs; they've seen the black box warnings added to PIs and recalls through the years for pharmaceutical products and like to see how new things perform over time in the real world.
 
I myself will not be used as a lab rat. Will wait to see what if any side affects are showing in the future.
People, do your homework .

As of March 1 2021, there is still only EUA ( Emergency Use Authorization) authorization for 2 vaccines. (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna)
The issuance of an EUA is different than an FDA approval (licensure) of a vaccine.Mar 1, 2021

From the WHO website... The proper road to a safe vaccine.........
"Small (phase I) safety studies of COVID-19 vaccines should enroll healthy adult volunteers. Larger (phase II and III) studies should include volunteers that reflect the populations for whom the vaccines are intended. This means enrolling people from diverse geographic areas, racial and ethnic backgrounds, genders, and ages, as well as those with underlying health conditions that put them at higher risk for COVID-19. Including these groups in clinical trials is the only way to make sure that a vaccine will be safe and effective for everyone who needs it".

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-d...5t6fxduXNYgmNCLFUPr5o4yXZK8kJP7dNIvQtNCW2aq9w

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How many ways can you beat the same drum and why? Why continue he to bring this up in a hundred different ways? I am seriously curious, why? Those who want the vaccine will get vaccinated. Those who don’t want the vaccine won’t get vaccinated. End of story.
 
What are my alternatives? If I go unvaccinated I risk death from COVID & it's a very hard death. I had to choose between a possible reaction that could've been treated or not...or COVID. I chose the vaccine. I don't want to become another victim of COVID. If that makes me an experiment that can help others later on then so be it.

Personally I think all this tit for tat on this forum about vaxxers & non vaxxers...maskers & anti maskers seriously needs to stop. You make your bed...you lie in it with your decisions. I'm not mad...this is nothing personal against anyone here. Just sick of it. It's bad enough we have to deal with all this COVID crap...fighting on a forum and making snarky remarks to one another isn't going to help. I think everyone needs to take a frickin chill pill and go to their separate corners for a while and give each other a break. JMO
I so agree. Tired of people beating this dead horse, give it a rest already.
 
I will not get vaccinated unless it becomes mandatory, and then reluctantly. I never even had a flu shot and seldom get sick. You don't know what you're being injected with. I did a questionnaire to determine my eligibility for free vaccine and it said I don't qualify. The only thing going for me in that sense is I am over 65, but conversely, have absolutely no symptoms and infrequent exposure to others.
The vaccine does not cost anything, there are a lot of scams out there, you became a victim of one apparently. There is no co pay for the vaccine, Medicare is billed and pays 40 dollars. You are billed nothing, nothing, and nothing.

The vaccine is FREE! FREE! FREE to everyone. Let me say this again, there is NO a charge for the vaccine to any individual, no co pay, no charge, you pay nothing.
 
You are seeking confidence in your decision by encouraging others to make the same decision you made. And you are trying to shame others into your decision. Funny how people who don't want the vaccine don't try to pressure others into not getting it.
Of course people who do not want the vaccine keep trying to pressure others into not getting it. Otherwise why keep bring it up? Why keep talking about unknown long term side effects to people who do not have long term lives left? It’s not like we are 16. 😂
 
I myself will not be used as a lab rat. Will wait to see what if any side affects are showing in the future.
People, do your homework .

As of March 1 2021, there is still only EUA ( Emergency Use Authorization) authorization for 2 vaccines. (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna)
The issuance of an EUA is different than an FDA approval (licensure) of a vaccine.Mar 1, 2021

From the WHO website... The proper road to a safe vaccine.........
"Small (phase I) safety studies of COVID-19 vaccines should enroll healthy adult volunteers. Larger (phase II and III) studies should include volunteers that reflect the populations for whom the vaccines are intended. This means enrolling people from diverse geographic areas, racial and ethnic backgrounds, genders, and ages, as well as those with underlying health conditions that put them at higher risk for COVID-19. Including these groups in clinical trials is the only way to make sure that a vaccine will be safe and effective for everyone who needs it".

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-d...5t6fxduXNYgmNCLFUPr5o4yXZK8kJP7dNIvQtNCW2aq9w

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I just checked the FDA website and they have approved the vaccines for emergency use. Latest news from them is the assurance that all are safe according to FDA regulations. You article is misleading.
 
This story was in today's Post. It's a fascinating and horrifying description of what's happening to this country, by describing the controversy within one family. One issue tearing them apart is the elderly mother's belief that the vaccine is made of cells from aborted babies (not true). She has fallen into the pit of Qanon beliefs and social media nuttiness. Her five children (who love her dearly and want to keep her alive) are trying their hardest to convince her to get the vaccine. One of them is a physician. But she will not listen to them on this subject. I hope you are able to see the article.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/disinformation-conspiracy-family/
My mother is 96 and has not yet got the vaccine. I am not worried about the long term side effects the vaccine may have on her. 🤣. I encouraged her to get it, but either way, she is not going to live too much longer.
 
I just checked the FDA website and they have approved the vaccines for emergency use. Latest news from them is the assurance that all are safe according to FDA regulations. You article is misleading.
Nothing misleading. Your reading comprehension just needs work. There is NO FDA approved vaccine. I said that from the start.
3rd and 4th line...
As of March 1 2021, there is still only EUA ( Emergency Use Authorization) authorization for 2 vaccines. (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna)
The issuance of an EUA is different than an FDA approval (licensure) of a vaccine.Mar 1, 2021

Do your homework.... and EAU is not an FDA approved authorization.
 
How many ways can you beat the same drum and why? Why continue he to bring this up in a hundred different ways? I am seriously curious, why? Those who want the vaccine will get vaccinated. Those who don’t want the vaccine won’t get vaccinated. End of story.
As many way's as others who try to convince me that it is somehow un-American to want to wait and see how this vaccine works out.
 
Nothing misleading. Your reading comprehension just needs work. There is NO FDA approved vaccine. I said that from the start.
3rd and 4th line...
As of March 1 2021, there is still only EUA ( Emergency Use Authorization) authorization for 2 vaccines. (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna)
The issuance of an EUA is different than an FDA approval (licensure) of a vaccine.Mar 1, 2021

Do your homework.... and EAU is not an FDA approved authorization.

Rude, but technically correct. Phase III studies started with the roll out and have to be completed and submitted to the FDA for standard approval.
 
Of course people who do not want the vaccine keep trying to pressure others into not getting it. Otherwise why keep bring it up? Why keep talking about unknown long term side effects to people who do not have long term lives left? It’s not like we are 16. 😂
I have never tried to persuade anyone to not be vaccinated. I comment to posts that try to sway others to get the vaccine when they are not ready to. Also when snide remarks are made implying that those who wish to wait or not get it are uneducated, or from a different race assuming they are living in slums and brainless! Or when they imply they have no common sense. A person can give their reasons for being vaccinated without trying to shame or make innuendos that those not getting vaccinated or waiting a while are stupid, senseless, poor etc.

As long as those types of comments are being made I will comment on them.

Also, why would anyone not wanting to be vaccinated try to prevent anyone else from being vaccinated? That makes no sense. Myself and others try to explain why we are waiting and then we get comments trying to change our minds. Snarky remarks.
 
I myself will not be used as a lab rat. Will wait to see what if any side affects are showing in the future.
People, do your homework .

As of March 1 2021, there is still only EUA ( Emergency Use Authorization) authorization for 2 vaccines. (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna)
The issuance of an EUA is different than an FDA approval (licensure) of a vaccine.Mar 1, 2021

From the WHO website... The proper road to a safe vaccine.........
"Small (phase I) safety studies of COVID-19 vaccines should enroll healthy adult volunteers. Larger (phase II and III) studies should include volunteers that reflect the populations for whom the vaccines are intended. This means enrolling people from diverse geographic areas, racial and ethnic backgrounds, genders, and ages, as well as those with underlying health conditions that put them at higher risk for COVID-19. Including these groups in clinical trials is the only way to make sure that a vaccine will be safe and effective for everyone who needs it".

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-d...5t6fxduXNYgmNCLFUPr5o4yXZK8kJP7dNIvQtNCW2aq9w

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I myself will not be used as a lab rat. Will wait to see what if any side affects are showing in the future.
People, do your homework .

As of March 1 2021, there is still only EUA ( Emergency Use Authorization) authorization for 2 vaccines. (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna)
The issuance of an EUA is different than an FDA approval (licensure) of a vaccine.Mar 1, 2021

From the WHO website... The proper road to a safe vaccine.........
"Small (phase I) safety studies of COVID-19 vaccines should enroll healthy adult volunteers. Larger (phase II and III) studies should include volunteers that reflect the populations for whom the vaccines are intended. This means enrolling people from diverse geographic areas, racial and ethnic backgrounds, genders, and ages, as well as those with underlying health conditions that put them at higher risk for COVID-19. Including these groups in clinical trials is the only way to make sure that a vaccine will be safe and effective for everyone who needs it".

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-d...5t6fxduXNYgmNCLFUPr5o4yXZK8kJP7dNIvQtNCW2aq9w

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So....
 

Back at you. So..... you have no concerns that the government amended the PREP Act (google it) to authorize immunity for the “manufacture, testing, development, distribution, administration, and use” of the COVID-19 vaccine.
To quote a lawyer friend, “Immunity generally means that you are unable to be sued because of your negligence.”
 
Again...So
Back at you. So..... you have no concerns that the government amended the PREP Act (google it) to authorize immunity for the “manufacture, testing, development, distribution, administration, and use” of the COVID-19 vaccine.
To quote a lawyer friend, “Immunity generally means that you are unable to be sued because of your negligence.”
Again So...
 
Back at you. So..... you have no concerns that the government amended the PREP Act (google it) to authorize immunity for the “manufacture, testing, development, distribution, administration, and use” of the COVID-19 vaccine.
To quote a lawyer friend, “Immunity generally means that you are unable to be sued because of your negligence.”
@squatting dog You, and all vets, including myself, my husband, and my son, have frequently been used as “lab rats” mostly without our knowledge, so I understand your reluctance to be used again. I disagree with your position, but support your choice not to get the vaccine.

I just wish the subject could be dropped.
 

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