Attacks on Asians

Don M.

Don M.

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There are an increasing number of reports of people attacking Orientals....often the elderly. I can't understand why this is happening....do these offenders blame all Asians for this pandemic??? At least this latest incident was caught on camera, and the thug identified and arrested...I hope he gets some serious jail time.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/police-release-video-showing-man-120955886.html

I've known many Orientals during my lifetime, and they have all been responsible hard working people....some of the nicest I've ever met.
 

Nathan said:
Here's a report on how the Asian hating started: forbes.com
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Right on the button, Nathan. Unfortunately, we can't really discuss the source of this scapegoating behavior against Asians, without getting into politics.

All viruses originated somewhere in the world, unless they got here from another planet. But how often are the residents of that location blamed and attacked because a disease originated in their neck of the woods?

Other than German measles, which was so named because it was identified as a disease by German physicians, I can't even think of any other disease actually blamed on a group of people, who of course are innocent victims of the disease the same as anyone else.
 
fmdog44 said:
What about the skunks that stood their and did nothing. I heard the news say they were suspended or fired. Why not jailed for refusing to stop the coward? Did they bother to call 911 or go out to her and help?
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It is not against the law to not help someone (which reminds me of the series finale of 'Seinfeld'). What hurt me the most about this incident, after the vicious attack of course, was the doorman closing the door on her; not helping even when any danger to himself was over--to leave her lying there is real sad.
 
fmdog44 said:
What about the skunks that stood their and did nothing. I heard the news say they were suspended or fired. Why not jailed for refusing to stop the coward? Did they bother to call 911 or go out to her and help?
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They just calmly closed the door. Not my problem. Some "security" guards there in that lot. A violent assualt in front of the building is not a security issue?

The do nothings were suspended for now but being they're union they'll get reinstated with back pay. A lot of companies do have a do not engage or pursue policy for liability reasons. Although they could've called the police and/or went out front told the guy get off company property being it was at the front door.
 
Regarding security personnel of a commercial establishment: First of all, they have about as much "job security" as the sign wagger people, certainly no union to back them. Second, I have personally known a couple people working store security who were fired, even though they performed lawful arrests. So, I guess most store security personnel know that the scope of their duties are mostly to "look" like a deterrent, with taking action being seen as a liability issue for the corporation, and thus a cause for dismissal.
 
All doormen and building maintenance have a very strong union in NYC @Nathan. I know this as a certainty and am in favor of it, although it can be uncomfortable when contract time is near. They need an effective union as building management is greedy and building tenants are nuts.
 
@Pepper, I knew when I posted that I had overlooked the strong unions in NYC. I actually thought such was a thing of the past, here in California where there is usually a Democratic majority in the state legislature the unions aren't as strong as one would expect.
 
When I belonged to a union I felt as though I had two bosses; the company and the union. :rolleyes:
But back to the subject at hand. Attacking Asians (the popular group of the moment to abuse) . . . just "because" . . . is simply ignorant. And there sure seems to be a lot of ignorance run amok.
Remember the problem with dumbing down the culture? I rest my case. We been dumbed down, dawg.
 
fmdog44 said:
What about the skunks that stood their and did nothing. I heard the news say they were suspended or fired. Why not jailed for refusing to stop the coward? Did they bother to call 911 or go out to her and help?
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It's easy to judge cowardice in such situations - provided you're not involved in them.
We're all brave heroes, as long as we're at our computer keyboards.
The dirtbag looks like he's quite large - and obviously has no problem with violence & enjoys hurting people. How would you suggest an unarmed person stop him - especially a smaller/older person?
These days, people who get involved sometimes pay a steep price; no good deed goes unpunished.
 
digifoss said:
How much courage does it take to grab your phone and call 911? This is one more reason people should consider learning how to handle firearms and carrying protection not only for yourself but situations like this.
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I'm sure someone called 911. But police can't be there soon enough to prevent an attack. I agree that people should learn about firearms, but not every city allows firearms carry in public.
 
This is a classic example of media misdirection. We are supposed to believe that the reason for the spike in attacks on Asian-Americans (which have increased dramatically in percentage terms but are still a tiny number of incidents) is that Big Orange called Covid the "China Virus" last year. (Apparently because it originated in, well, China.)

However, many of the really brutal, physical attacks on Asian-Americans (like this one) are carried out by Black men. Are these Black men supporters of Big Orange? Is a Black attack on an Asian-American an example of white supremacy? Should I capitalize "White" as well as "Black?"

Confusing times, indeed. But, as Lester Holt just pointed out, fairness is overrated anyway.
 
Whatever happened to one's natural reaction when seeing an attack like that to automatically & immediately jump in to stop the attack, NOT even giving pause to think first of any possible negative consequences for themselves?
 

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