Mr. Ed
Be what you is not what you what you ain’t
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People fear what they don’t understand or told to fear from trusted sources. The problem is most people go by what they are told rather than experiencing life for themselves.
I agree it would be a good idea to teach religion in school..BUT imo it needs to be taught by including promoting both tolerance and lack of judgement.Religion should absolutely be taught in schools. It's had an immense effect on society and the world, both positive–mostly in the realm of art and architecture–and negative when one considers all the wars that have been waged in the name of religion and all the suffering that has resulted from people trying to force their religious beliefs on others.
I agree it would be difficult but I also believe it would be an opportunity to teach tolerance and acceptance which is sorely lacking in our society. Of course, teachers may not like this idea because it would add to their workload...so perhaps outside lecturers in assemblies could take on the taskI feel exactly the opposite and don’t think religion should be taught in school. Which religion? With today’s mixed culture, I think it would cause more problems than solutions.
My parents fled Lithuania in the '40sL'Chaim!
My grandparents fled Lithuania in the '30s. Some of my relatives undoubtedly died in the Holocaust but I don't have any information on that. My grandfather on my mother's side died of alcoholism. I sometimes wonder if he couldn't handle the fact that some of the family couldn't get out while he did.
Tolerance and acceptance of others can be taught without religious overtones.I agree it would be difficult but I also believe it would be an opportunity to teach tolerance and acceptance which is sorely lacking in our society. Of course, teachers may not like this idea because it would add to their workload...so perhaps outside lecturers in assemblies could take on the task
You are right but tolerance and acceptance specifically about other religions was where I was going...Tolerance and acceptance of others can be taught without religious overtones.
Yes in world history, religions would of course be included. What the students choose to practice should be done at home or in their preferred church. Maybe this would start tolerance of other people’s choice in religion.You are right but tolerance and acceptance specifically about other religions was where I was going...
Exactly.What the students chose to practice should be done at home or in their preferred church.
A total lack of judgement would be difficult if not impossible. The teaching of Catholicism, for instance, would have to include the widespread child abuse and pedophilia that has been prevalent in the church. How could you tolerate that and view it without judgement?I agree it would be a good idea to teach religion in school..BUT imo it needs to be taught by including promoting both tolerance and lack of judgement.
No it doesn't.A total lack of judgement would be difficult if not impossible. The teaching of Catholicism, for instance, would have to include the widespread child abuse and pedophilia that has been prevalent in the church. How could you tolerate that and view it without judgement?
Cheers, to another SF member with Lithuania roots!My parents fled Lithuania in the '40s
If Islam is being taught correctly in any institution, it would be noted that Islam forbids the killing of innocents and suicide is considered one of the biggest sins! The people who perpetrate these heinous actions are not true Muslims and we who are do not wish to be associated with them nor their actions. I once watched a special on how young men were being recruited to join these religious fanatical groups who do the suicide bombings and I was astonished, not only by their gullibility but by the parents who were proud their children were joining up! It was brainwashing to the umpth degree! A mother saying she'd be proud that her son would strap a bomb on and die for the cause....WTH!! I sat there thinking, obviously they haven't read their Qurans.A total lack of judgement would be difficult if not impossible. The teaching of Catholicism, for instance, would have to include the widespread child abuse and pedophilia that has been prevalent in the church. How could you tolerate that and view it without judgement?
The teaching of Islam would have to include the suicide bombings and of course, the 9/11 attack.
Teaching religion is the job of the children's family, and whatever clergy of the church/temple or synagogue the family attends.So, exactly what religion is all the nation kids supposed to be taught?
BTW, who do you think is the best teacher of morals and ethic- a government school, or just maybe, the parents of their own children?
It seems nowadays outside religious practices and teaching have already impacted much of the world population. The bible states to go out and teach the nations, I have trouble with spreading the good news to people who are completely content with life as they know it to be. Not for the sake of education but the notion of changing heritage and beliefs so they may be as I am.
Are we so vain that we must transform well-adjusted native inhabitants to our likeness so they may be happy living as we live? The irony of it all though is we discriminate against foreigners in their own land, because they are not like us. Soon there is tension between the home team and the visiting team, we bring in sophisticated firepower and the uneven balance is restored to our liking.
Agreed. We rely upon the school to offer that overview and we (as parents) fill in the gaps for our children if they are curious.Some families don’t practise any religion. Kids should have have an overview of all religions, no proselytizing. It’s just part of their knowledge base.
I very much like the idea of ethics classes.In the ethics class, they ask the children things like 'Is it okay to lie?' and interesting discussions would follow. We all tell lies, but sometimes it's to spare giving an answer that would hurt a person's feelings. Would an ethics class be more beneficial to the child than a religious class? I have no idea because the ethics class didn't exist when my children went to primary school so they attended a religious class where nobody listened to a word from the poor Christian volunteer and it was a great class to get away with blue murder.
I have been there...my father was a prominent forester. My siblings and I went to Lithuanian for what would have been my father's 100th birthday celebration. I saw the graves of my grandparents for the first time and the house where my Dad grew up.Cheers, to another SF member with Lithuania roots!
Have you ever been there? I don't really have any inclination to go there, although I might if I knew more about my lineage, i.e. where my grandparents lived.
I've been there three times myself.I have been there...my father was a prominent forester. My siblings and I went to Lithuanian for what would have been my father's 100th birthday celebration. I saw the graves of my grandparents for the first time and the house where my Dad grew up.
I always find it pleasantly surprising where I 'run into' people with a Lithuanian heritage. Good to 'meet you'![]()
I do not think any one particular religion should be 'taught' per se. I would like to see commonalities summarized and an emphasis on tolerance for all. And yes, of course, the 'best' teachers are the parents...even if in later years the children go out on their own...So, exactly what religion is all the nation kids supposed to be taught?
BTW, who do you think is the best teacher of morals and ethic- a government school, or just maybe, the parents of their own children?
I've been there three times myself.
Well put!! I totally agree...the teaching should be an overview for knowledge without any proselytizing!Some families don’t practise any religion. Kids should have have an overview of all religions, no proselytizing. It’s just part of their knowledge base.