Well, if you're going that route, that the CDC is lying, then there's no reason discussing anything covid, because every conspiracy theory becomes possible if you believe this is some black ops con job. I have my own suspicions about the vaccine especially but I don't see some giant conspiracy out there .
Is The Lockdown Paradigm Collapsing?
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JonDouglas
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That's not what I said. Suggest you stop your petty, personal attacks.
What are you talking about? How did I attack you in any way? I tend to agree with most of your posts. So you're saying the CDC can't even count the number of people who die each year? You really believe they're that incompetent? Remember this has nothing to do with cause of death, it's strictly the total number of deaths from year to year.
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Motorbike driving could be extremely dangerous and now bikers have one more reason to be afraid of: the risk of developing cancer.
Randall Dale Chipkar who previously warned bikers about this risk had written a book which he named "Motorcycle Cancer?" to show the dangers of motorbike seats' low frequency electromagnetic field (ELF EMF) radiation.
The author claims he found 500 milliGauss of ELF EMF radiation above motorcycle seats and doctors say anyone who is exposed to 3 to 5 milliGauss of ELF EMF risks to develop cancer.
"I was shocked to discover this radiation risk for motorcyclists. Initially proof of danger was a major challenge, however, today both my book and website provide evidence and facts that cannot be ignored. It's not just about cancer. The prostate, colon and neighboring organs are of concern along with radiation readings that reach the abdomen, heart and breast area," Chipkar confesses.
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/motorcycle-riders-risk-to-die-of-cancer-4665.html
digifoss
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Any point they disagree with is a conspiracy theory
JonDouglas
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Give it rest. I've been riding motorcycles for over 65 years with no accidents or illnesses and I don't give a shit about EMF radiation unless it comes from some unnatural nuclear source, alpha, beta or gamma. Maybe Chipkar can convince BMW or Harley to add a dosimeter into the seat of their motorcycles.
Ah well... I don't ride a motor cycle, but I would rather risk wearing a mask and having a covid vaccine. Sweet dreams
digifoss
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Ah well... I don't ride a motor cycle, but I would rather risk wearing a mask and having a covid vaccine. Sweet dreams
JonDouglas
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If you don't ride, why are you carrying on about it? As for masks and vaccines, I really don't need the former and probably didn't need the latter but got the J&J anyway.Ah well... I don't ride a motor cycle, but I would rather risk wearing a mask and having a covid vaccine. Sweet dreams
Chris21E
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Wondering when Summer heat at the highest who will keep the mask thing going...I can not add people are chopping at the bits to just get out...I noticed the traffic has really pick up, more cars on the road now,
digifoss
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I took my grandkids to the park yesterday. There were several families there cooking on the grills and quite a few kids playing on the playground. I didn't see a single mask the whole afternoon. We had a great time and It was a very enjoyable afternoon for everyone there.
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Here in Britain a scientist at Oxford University say we are no longer in a pandemic given the success of vaccination and very low rates of infection.
England will be living normally in two months and the hope is Wales will follow after our election in two weeks.
In the meantime we are told that Wales will be rampant with Covid by Christmas and we must expect more lockdowns and restrictions because’we are following the science’.
I think theatres and concert venues are assuming we will be following England where I will be going in late June onwards to watch my cricket team at away games because I can’t go to sport in Wales.
England will be living normally in two months and the hope is Wales will follow after our election in two weeks.
In the meantime we are told that Wales will be rampant with Covid by Christmas and we must expect more lockdowns and restrictions because’we are following the science’.
I think theatres and concert venues are assuming we will be following England where I will be going in late June onwards to watch my cricket team at away games because I can’t go to sport in Wales.
I agree with the epidemiologists who have been saying this for a year and more. Protect the vulnerable. Let the rest of us live as normal. Were it not for enforced mask wearing, social distancing and normal activities being forbidden in the state where I live, I would not even have known there was a pandemic because I stopped watching the news a year ago.
It's a shame too because 13 months ago, I felt like they do.
But how can you call what's happening a conspiracy theory when it's happening right before your own eyes? I can't deny what is happening that everyone thought was a conspiracy theory last year, like tracing people's movements and vaccine passports - no buying or selling without one, no admittance, no life, no jab - no job. This is becoming real and people must know this yet no one can admit they may have been played about the reality of covid 19. They won't even consider it.
digifoss
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There is a big push to use the Wuhan virus as a means to gain more and more control over people through fear, calling any information that doesn't support the narrative a conspiracy theory is one of the methods frequently used to achieve that and it has been successful to a point. There is also a lot of push-back against that happening as well, more now than during this entire episode. There are signs that fear-mongering is in retreat, or not nearly as successful as it was last year if not retreating. Eyes are opening. That doesn't mean that the Wuhan virus is fake, it is very real, or that people don't need to be cautions and protect the elderly and infirm including ourselves, we do, and that may include getting vaccinated for some of us if we feel it's necessary, among other things like eating healthy, getting some sun and exercise, and taking immune system boosting supplements.
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Digifoss, as you may or may not be aware, the name of the virus is Coronavirus. The disease is called Covid-19.
"Wuhan virus" is political, and has only ever been used for political purposes, the same as "China virus." It's time to give that expression a rest. It creates xenophobia, and pits people against each other, including within this country. Why not drop the politics and call the disease by its correct name?
"Wuhan virus" is political, and has only ever been used for political purposes, the same as "China virus." It's time to give that expression a rest. It creates xenophobia, and pits people against each other, including within this country. Why not drop the politics and call the disease by its correct name?
digifoss
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semantics
SetWave
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Yeah, I really enjoyed the empty roads when we first locked down. Not only has traffic increase, people are driving like maniacs.
SetWave
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For me, personally, it has been and will continue to be The Goddamned Virus.
Chris21E
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That is so true, just to get around town I will go the back roads and avoid the freeways
SetWave
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I've driven the back roads since my teenage years and traffic on them sure has changed. As for the freeway, Hwy 1 became a literal parking lot before the goddamnend virus hit. Slowly but surely it's returning to the creep and beep.
JonDouglas
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I think people call it the Wuhan Virus because its origins were traced to a specific are in Wuhan China. I remember the Hong Kong flu back in 1968. Back then people had better things to do than get overly, politically sensitive about a name. Fortunately, we're still free to call it anything we want.
JonDouglas
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On A Related Note, Fauci Is Flipping Again. From an aggregator newswire.
For many months now, Dr. Anthony Fauci has advocated that people remain masked outdoors to help prevent the spread of COVID-19. “When you are indoors, make sure you have a mask. When you’re outdoors, keep the mask on,” he said back in August, though he acknowledged that being outdoors was significantly safer than being indoors.
Now, Fauci is saying that he believes the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) will provide updated guidance on wearing face masks outdoors, and says it’s “common sense” to reconsider the guidance.
Dr. Fauci’s credibility has taken some severe hits, particularly in recent weeks. When Texas Governor Greg Abbott axed the state’s mask mandate and other COVID-related restrictions on businesses and people, Dr. Anthony Fauci called it “risky” and “potentially dangerous.” But no surge happened. Earlier this month Fauci struggled to explain how Texas defied his own predictions during an appearance on MSNBC, arguing at the time that there might be a “lag.” Three weeks later, there’s still no surge in cases in Texas.
If you've lived long enough and been around the block a few times, such bureaucratic and political CYA behavior is not unfamiliar. You might think his political masters are getting the message and telling Fauci to "cool it".
Chris21E
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I noticed that, in fact on road 580 in Pleasanton CA, I can look to the left it is back to Livermore so just going the none freeway roads and now those roads are packed