5 dead, including 2 sheriff’s deputies, in North Carolina standoff, officials say
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There is no one better than a good cop.
There is no one worse than a bad cop.......
or, a good cop who covers for a bad cop.
It's not open season on law enforcement. People just want our police to be honorable and to protect and serve. Not kill people for no good reason. Keep in mind that it isn't just people of color who have suffered losses.
Disturbing video shows unarmed man begging before fatal police shooting
Why did that cop have to terrorize that man? When that man was laying down, the cops could have walked over to him and would have seen that he was not armed. Can you imagine the fear that man must have felt while orders were being shouted at him? It's this unreasonableness that people are against.
OK, so you're entitled to your opinion.
Over 100 (last count was 115) law enforcement people have been killed in the line of duty so far in 2021.
I am curious as to what got the suspects to this point?
I can understand police being extra careful so as not to get killed themselves but some of this stuff the cops are doing anymore seems very inappropriate and very uncalled for. Sometimes I feel like the fact that they have the power to kill us on a whim goes to their heads and they sometimes kill people or hurt them unnecessarily. How is the general public supposed to trust them with all this kind of stuff happening?
jujube
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Yes, there are bad police officers, just like there are bad priests, bad teachers, bad doctors, and bad members of every other profession. But most of those other professionals aren't out there laying their lives on the line for the general public.
I would invite anyone who needs help to call a drug dealer to save you next time instead of someone like the father of my little ones who is out there putting his life in danger every time he buttons up his uniform and drives off in his patrol car.
I would invite anyone who needs help to call a drug dealer to save you next time instead of someone like the father of my little ones who is out there putting his life in danger every time he buttons up his uniform and drives off in his patrol car.
digifoss
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Some cops do terrible things. They are people. Some cops do amazing things and do it well, many times protecting others at the expense of their own lives. How sad that none of the leading elected officials of this country have bent the knee or shown as much respect and appreciation, sadness, and sympathy for any of them or their families as they showed en masse in respect to George Floyd in their tribute to his life.
Does your husband usually threaten to kill the people he's trying to arrest? Even before knowing whether or not they're even armed?
jujube
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My husband? I'm talking about the father of the two little girls I consider my grandchildren. I should have been more clear on that.
And, no, he doesn't threaten to kill the people he's trying to arrest, unless one of them points a gun at him, and then you can be assured he will use force. That is his job......to protect you and everyone else and himself if needs be.
And, no, he doesn't threaten to kill the people he's trying to arrest, unless one of them points a gun at him, and then you can be assured he will use force. That is his job......to protect you and everyone else and himself if needs be.
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Irwin
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we get a clip of the events-never the beginning, the middle... the clips are just about worthless
The dynamics of how the event got to this level are not available.
The clip tells me nothing.
Oh yea, when i enter a house wherein there is a danger of getting shot: you can bet your bibby i'm going to do everything i can to
to avoid being shot!
The dynamics of how the event got to this level are not available.
The clip tells me nothing.
Oh yea, when i enter a house wherein there is a danger of getting shot: you can bet your bibby i'm going to do everything i can to
to avoid being shot!
I flunked Sociology in College, so I have no opinion on that basis. However, from a law enforcement point of view, which I've studied, but have never been a LEO, it is a progression to regression. The old Billy the Kid, Ma Barker mode of life. A totally lawless society may be creeping down the hall, so it is up to the individual to creep back.
Don M.
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Being a cop, over the past couple of years, has to be one of the Worst jobs a person can have. Between all the negative publicity on the media, due to the actions of a Very Small minority of the police, and all the protests and threats of defunding, etc., many of the police are abandoning that career. This will ultimately lead to a rise in crime, and make the vast majority of our people more likely to be victims of the criminals.
Hardly a day goes by, anymore, without a report of a major shooting....and I suspect such incidents will only continue to increase.
Gun and ammo sales are skyrocketing as more and more people are concerned that they may have to fend for themselves.
Hardly a day goes by, anymore, without a report of a major shooting....and I suspect such incidents will only continue to increase.
Gun and ammo sales are skyrocketing as more and more people are concerned that they may have to fend for themselves.
Yes, I was in another county here in PA on Tuesday and was driving through the largest city in that county. I decided to stop at a convenience store to get an iced tea and maybe a snack. When I was coming out of the store, I heard gunshots (4 of them) that were maybe a half block away. I grabbed the lanyard with my “retired” badge on it and took off running. I saw someone run between 2 houses, so I yelled “He’s over here.”
A cop arrived about 30 seconds later and was more concerned with who I was than chasing his suspect. I was like, “Well, forget it now.”
We spoke for about 2 or 3 minutes when his Sgt. showed up. First question was if we saw where the suspect went. I told him I think between the 2 houses. They looked at each other and then left. I stood there scratching my head.
On Wednesday, I read online that one known druggie killed another known druggie. I had a feeling that the cops knew who the suspect was.
They don't seem to be too interested in what it takes to catch them. I called in something on a neighbor down the alley from me. Told them what they looked like...what they were doing and what house they were at. They're response was that since they didn't know who it was they couldn't just go down there. They had to catch them in the act. Someone I work with knew who the guy was so I got his name and address and contacted the landlord cuz they were destroying property. Haven't seen them since. They could've caught them several times over in the past couple years but wouldn't.
As for knowing who the suspect is...perhaps it was someone they liked? That's the feeling I got in my circumstance.
I remember that one well. (A previous Derek Chauvin)
Two things are quite obvious:
1. That cop was enjoying terrorizing his victim.
2. That cop was determined to find a reason to kill someone.......ANYONE would do.
OneEyedDiva
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THANK YOU!!!!! Unfortunately some people just don't get what you've mentioned. I bet if it happened to them, or even a close family member, they'd change their tune. I love the quote you started out with. Thank you again.
Here is one it did happen to.
The father of Kelley Thomas was a police officer. Kelley Thomas was a homeless person who was tortured for 30 minutes & murdered by three police officers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kelly_Thomas
Interesting info we hear little about:
White and far-right extremists kill more cops, but FBI tracks black extremists more closely, many worry https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article196423174.html
White supremacists behind majority of US domestic terror attacks in 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/22/white-supremacists-rightwing-domestic-terror-2020
Police are using Steroids resulting in "Roid Rage" Why aren't police being tested for Steroids? https://www.dailykos.com/story/2020...e-Why-aren-t-police-being-tested-for-Steroids
White supremacists and militias have infiltrated police across US, report says https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...emacists-militias-infiltrate-us-police-report
The problem isn't that people are against law enforcement. They are against people who should not be in the police force because they either aren't being trained properly, or want to use their uniform for a personal agenda - hate.
White and far-right extremists kill more cops, but FBI tracks black extremists more closely, many worry https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article196423174.html
White supremacists behind majority of US domestic terror attacks in 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/22/white-supremacists-rightwing-domestic-terror-2020
Police are using Steroids resulting in "Roid Rage" Why aren't police being tested for Steroids? https://www.dailykos.com/story/2020...e-Why-aren-t-police-being-tested-for-Steroids
White supremacists and militias have infiltrated police across US, report says https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...emacists-militias-infiltrate-us-police-report
The problem isn't that people are against law enforcement. They are against people who should not be in the police force because they either aren't being trained properly, or want to use their uniform for a personal agenda - hate.
OneEyedDiva
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@digifoss "How sad that none of the leading elected officials of this country have bent the knee or shown as much respect and appreciation, sadness, and sympathy for any of them or their families as they showed en masse in respect to George Floyd in their tribute to his life."
I agree. Didn't they do it for the officer who was killed by the insurrectionists? Just asking because I don't remember. In fact, I didn't see that they had done it for Mr. Floyd either.
I agree. Didn't they do it for the officer who was killed by the insurrectionists? Just asking because I don't remember. In fact, I didn't see that they had done it for Mr. Floyd either.
Job well done, just another day of service.
That is exactly how I see it, too.