6 Year Old Killed In Road Rage Incident

In that case, the drive-by shooters targeted another person.
It might be hard to prove the shooter in this case was targeting a person or just the car.
That would not need to be proven. If you fire at a car with occupants, and it pierces, that defense is pointless. Although, as you say, no doubt his defense team will use anything/defense at their disposal.
 
In that case, the drive-by shooters targeted another person.
It might be hard to prove the shooter in this case was targeting a person or just the car.
So what you're saying is, it's okay to shoot at a vehicle, but just don't hit an occupant inside?
 

One day after the mother of a 6-year-old boy killed in a road rage shooting pleaded for justice at his memorial service, two people were arrested in connection with the boy's death. The California Highway Patrol said Marcus Anthony Eriz, 24, and Wynne Lee, 23, were taken into custody Sunday outside their home in Costa Mesa and are likely to be charged with murder.

CHP Assistant Chief Don Goodbrand said at a Monday news conference that authorities have recovered the weapon used in the attack and the vehicle in which the suspects were riding. He also said Lee was the driver but declined to share other details of the case, which has been handed to the Orange County district attorney's office for further investigation and prosecution.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...road-rage-death-suspects-arrested/7581276002/
 
..and further on this story....

In reflecting on why the case had prompted so much cooperation, in addition to national attention, Spitzer said, “It’s because it could have happened to any one of us.

"We all drive the freeways of Southern California. We’ve all gotten upset at other motorists; other motorists have been upset at us. I’ve thrown some gestures about myself. But it’s never come to a situation of violence, and certainly not in my realm or your realm to the loss of a life.''
 
The faces of the suspected killers..... Marcus Anthony Eriz, 24, and Wynne Lee, 23,

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Eriz is an auto shop worker whose social media is filled with photos of him showing off his guns and firing them at shooting ranges
 
I just read this in the news... How absolutely devastating!! In this day and age of road rage, why that mother thought it would be ok to flip the bird at anyone while having a child in the car is beyond me, and rightly she should be blaming herself for the rest of her days!

the shooter was in the wrong but the mother was the catalyst!!
So agree with you. Don't instigate.
 
True, she was the catalyst, but if that guy was sitting there with an itchy trigger finger, probably anything could have been the catalyst. The mother could have given him a dirty look, and that would have been enough to set him off also.
 
Here we have the "intent flies with the bullet" rule, too.
Interesting, that maxim makes sense. From the CA ruling, this is how they phrased it:

...Recall the “classic example” of the “person who fires a bullet through a window, not knowing or caring whether anyone is behind” the pane.  (People v. Roberts (1992) 2 Cal.4th 271, 317, 6 Cal.Rptr.2d 276, 826 P.2d 274.)...
 
I'm just amazed that so many among us casually intermingle, shooting someone, anyone, as a result of name calling, gestures, or just being ornery. Name calling, dirty looks, obscene gestures, shooting someone, and I would imagine chopping someone up with a machete or axe all fall in the same category for these folks.

If you shoot someone BEFORE they make their gesture, does that change how you feel? How about if you only shot their finger off? Does that make it justifiable.

What a f---ing insane country we are becoming. Name calling, killings, gestures, and I would suppose, maimings, are all lumped together and the blame for them all is shared equally by the various participants.
 
I'm just amazed that so many among us casually intermingle, shooting someone, anyone, as a result of name calling, gestures, or just being ornery. Name calling, dirty looks, obscene gestures, shooting someone, and I would imagine chopping someone up with a machete or axe all fall in the same category for these folks.

If you shoot someone BEFORE they make their gesture, does that change how you feel? How about if you only shot their finger off? Does that make it justifiable.

What a f---ing insane country we are becoming. Name calling, killings, gestures, and I would suppose, maimings, are all lumped together and the blame for them all is shared equally by the various participants.
That's basically what going on in many these cities like Chicago where the local gangster will seek revenge not because one cost them money or shot a buddy but because they took what ever personally. No driving involved but similar reactions.
 
I'm just amazed that so many among us casually intermingle, shooting someone, anyone, as a result of name calling, gestures, or just being ornery. Name calling, dirty looks, obscene gestures, shooting someone, and I would imagine chopping someone up with a machete or axe all fall in the same category for these folks.

If you shoot someone BEFORE they make their gesture, does that change how you feel? How about if you only shot their finger off? Does that make it justifiable.

What a f---ing insane country we are becoming. Name calling, killings, gestures, and I would suppose, maimings, are all lumped together and the blame for them all is shared equally by the various participants.
Not attacking, or taking any sides in the gun owner arguments.. ... but just to say that this in bold is how most of the rest of the world see you .. whether it's actually true in the main, only Americans know but non gun -toting outsiders, this is what we've always seen...and believed..
 
I don't believe in justice. Some do get it. There have been too many who never did.
Remy...unfortunately you are so right. :cry:

Re OP: I'm so glad they caught the shooter. I hope this leads to justice being served for the loss of that adorable little boy. I just can't imagine what his parents and family are feeling. I saw a news report where the anchor gave an astonishing number. Hundreds) of children were killed by gun violence in 2020 and this year's stats are no better. It's frightening and so heartbreaking!
 
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That's basically what going on in many these cities like Chicago where the local gangster will seek revenge not because one cost them money or shot a buddy but because they took what ever personally. No driving involved but similar reactions.
Mob violence was at it's peak when Congress authorized FBI agents to be armed back in the 30's.
 
Being given the "finger", gee, how disparagingly disrespectful, it could ruin your whole life if you don't "finger" back in some ---- get even way.
 


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