What they found offensive was the fact that you added "of," to Bruce Springsteen's song, "Born in the USA."
6 Year Old Killed In Road Rage Incident
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Or that I abbreviated Donna Fargo's, U.S. of A song posted on page 4.What they found offensive was the fact that you added "of," to Bruce Springsteen's song, "Born in the USA."
rgp
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Well, they see it their way, & I see it my way. And I think after it is said time & time again, it carries a negative connotation .
These comments are from Marg, whose bloomers are in a bunch because some of us consider her attitudes about the U.S. to be snarky. Actually, I think "snarky" is a bit too mild. When we put it all together, I think the words "openly hostile" are more appropriate. Here's a sampling, and these all from just this one thread.
You don't like to hear the truth?
No, don't you dare throw the mother under the wheels of the bus.
If those packing guns in the USofA are that immature and void of brain cells where they look to reach for their guns to settle petty scores, then they're the catalyst.
I don't buy into your babble.
But hey, if you want to go through life using yourself as a welcome mat for everyone to kick and stub the soil off their footwear on, that's strictly up to you.
Altercations and gestures are common among drivers, with no grave consequences.
That's the joy of calling Canada my home, our governing parties are intelligent enough to recognize how unintelligent it is to allow it's people to pack guns around.
Yes, of course, violence, including gun violence has existed, and will always exist no matter what country or form of control governing parties look to implement, and it's true,
in metro centres in Canada... Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Calgary, and Edmonton, crime rates have soared, gun violence included, but thanks to our governing parties, gun crimes
aren't anywhere near as prevalent here in our country as they are in the USofA, and most shootings you hear of in our country are gang related (targeted hits), unlike in your country
where reaching for ones gun is how people solve their daily problems no matter how trivial. [WHAT?!]
But where does it end, Remy?
Because you live in the USofA, you just allow everyone to walk on you?
Is that what the gun-culture in the USofA has created? Everyone living in fear? Afraid to say anything or stand up to anyone?
Pull up an internet article to back-up your claim, would you, because I want to see it for myself where those like myself who refer to your country as the USofA are being "snarky".
Extending the same offer to you Holly Dolly and Chet as well, seeing how you felt the need to add emoji likes to RGP's entry. Show me. Show me where my use of the term USofA is "snarky".
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OK, Marg, that's the end of your contributions to this discussion that I have compiled. Although I largely agree with your stance on gun control and the damage done by the Second Amendment and the gun worshippers, I think your mocking attitude toward this country (not to mention your ignorance about it) manage to drown out any valid points you may be making. And I have to wonder: if you really have so much contempt for your country's nearest neighbor, why continue to keep ruffling feathers every chance you get? Do you really think that stubbornly insisting on using an abbreviation for my country that no one here ever uses, dismissing the U.S. as being inferior to Canada (which seems to be a favorite theme of yours), schoolyard taunts, and so on, are really contributing anything worthwhile? Maybe it's time to grow up?
You don't like to hear the truth?
No, don't you dare throw the mother under the wheels of the bus.
If those packing guns in the USofA are that immature and void of brain cells where they look to reach for their guns to settle petty scores, then they're the catalyst.
I don't buy into your babble.
But hey, if you want to go through life using yourself as a welcome mat for everyone to kick and stub the soil off their footwear on, that's strictly up to you.
Altercations and gestures are common among drivers, with no grave consequences.
That's the joy of calling Canada my home, our governing parties are intelligent enough to recognize how unintelligent it is to allow it's people to pack guns around.
Yes, of course, violence, including gun violence has existed, and will always exist no matter what country or form of control governing parties look to implement, and it's true,
in metro centres in Canada... Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Calgary, and Edmonton, crime rates have soared, gun violence included, but thanks to our governing parties, gun crimes
aren't anywhere near as prevalent here in our country as they are in the USofA, and most shootings you hear of in our country are gang related (targeted hits), unlike in your country
where reaching for ones gun is how people solve their daily problems no matter how trivial. [WHAT?!]
But where does it end, Remy?
Because you live in the USofA, you just allow everyone to walk on you?
Is that what the gun-culture in the USofA has created? Everyone living in fear? Afraid to say anything or stand up to anyone?
Pull up an internet article to back-up your claim, would you, because I want to see it for myself where those like myself who refer to your country as the USofA are being "snarky".
Extending the same offer to you Holly Dolly and Chet as well, seeing how you felt the need to add emoji likes to RGP's entry. Show me. Show me where my use of the term USofA is "snarky".
* * * * *
OK, Marg, that's the end of your contributions to this discussion that I have compiled. Although I largely agree with your stance on gun control and the damage done by the Second Amendment and the gun worshippers, I think your mocking attitude toward this country (not to mention your ignorance about it) manage to drown out any valid points you may be making. And I have to wonder: if you really have so much contempt for your country's nearest neighbor, why continue to keep ruffling feathers every chance you get? Do you really think that stubbornly insisting on using an abbreviation for my country that no one here ever uses, dismissing the U.S. as being inferior to Canada (which seems to be a favorite theme of yours), schoolyard taunts, and so on, are really contributing anything worthwhile? Maybe it's time to grow up?
Elsie
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I love your comment.
Orange County has offered $100K reward doubling the $50K offered by the family
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/reward-55-freeway-shooting-death-boy-aiden-leos/2603377/
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/reward-55-freeway-shooting-death-boy-aiden-leos/2603377/
Yes, those terrible things just don't happen in Canada
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/17/794510796/why-gun-violence-is-surging-in-toronto
fuzzybuddy
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The majority of gun related deaths are suicides. And criminals shot by victims, during the commission of a crime are rare. Personally, I don't believe there is such a thing as a "responsible gunowner". A gun is a lethal weapon. In the life of an average person, there are times of great emotional turmoil, when a lethal weapon can accelerate a situation. We are human beings with all our flaws. Plus, in the US, most murderers are known by their victims. It is my opinion that lethal weapons pose more of a threat to owners and bystanders, than any defensive use.
Guns are not for everyone.
People who can't control their emotions should not own guns; much like people who can't control their drinking should not have alcohol in their house.
People have to know their limitations.
DaveA
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Obviously the nut that shot a 6 year old in the head didn't "know his limitations". or maybe he did until confronting with a solitary finger waved at him. How scary that must have been --for him.
Must have been one of those guys who'd had his ass kicked in the school yard and was gonna show how big and bad he was. Death sentence for a by-stander (the 6 year old) due to that fearful finger!!
Must have been one of those guys who'd had his ass kicked in the school yard and was gonna show how big and bad he was. Death sentence for a by-stander (the 6 year old) due to that fearful finger!!
"There is no such thing as a responsible gun owner?"
Every single police officer, sheriff's deputy & highway patrol officer is irresponsible?
All military personnel are irresponsible?
Every single Secret Service agent is irresponsible?
Every single FBI agent is irresponsible?
Every single DEA agent is irresponsible?
Every single bodyguard is irresponsible?
You are certainly entitled to your opinion - regardless of how ridiculous it is.
DaveA
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I don't think he's speaking of those among us that carry guns as our "tools of the trade".
It would more likely seem as though he's referring to the candya$$es running around, gun in hand, loudly proclaiming that "mine is bigger than yours".
It would more likely seem as though he's referring to the candya$$es running around, gun in hand, loudly proclaiming that "mine is bigger than yours".
He made it pretty clear by saying "I don't believe there is such a thing as a responsible gun owner."
Good point. That's exactly why flipping off a stranger is such a stupid thing to do. You have no way of knowing anything about his mental state or what kind of past he has had. And you can't predict his reaction.
When I was married, my wife & I were looking for a parking space in a crowded store (Fedco). After 10 minutes of driving around the parking lot, I followed some people who were leaving. I waited while they loaded up their car & backed out. As I started pulling in to the space, a big van coming from the opposite direction sped into the space, almost hitting me.
I said to the driver, "I guess you didn't see me waiting for that space."
He yelled, "You're full of s--t ya f---ing a--hole." I drove away & found another space.
My wife said, "Rick (her first husband who died at 31) never would have let anyone get away with that."
I said, "That's right; Rick wasn't very intelligent; that's why he spent so much time in the ER, getting hurt in fights over stupid things like a parking space."
In a previous incident, before I met my wife, Rick nearly bled to death when he was involved in a fight with 2 guys at a gas station.
The fight was over who arrived at a gas pump first. At the time, he was on a 6-day break from the hospital while being treated for Leukemia & the treatment interfered with his blood-clotting ability. He also had severe issues with blood pressure - ruptured blood vessels, etc.
Yeah, "Real men" get into fights over stupid things.
And "Real men" would rather die than grow up.
Near the end of my husband's life, he and I decided to visit a very popular book store. We made the mistake of going on a Saturday, and finding a parking spot in the lot in front of the store was next to impossible. Finally, a space in the "handicapped" area opened up and I slipped into it. Another driver, who was a second too late, started honking at me and yelling, "Don't you see we have kids in this car?" I replied, "Well, I have a man in a wheelchair in mine!" The other driver grumblingly drove away and found another parking space.
When we were in the bookstore, a stranger came up to me. Turned out to be the other driver. He said, "I owe you an apology. I thought you were lying about having someone in a wheelchair, but I see you weren't. I had no right to yell at you." I thought that was so nice.
When we were in the bookstore, a stranger came up to me. Turned out to be the other driver. He said, "I owe you an apology. I thought you were lying about having someone in a wheelchair, but I see you weren't. I had no right to yell at you." I thought that was so nice.
Picture of the suspect's vehicle. Police couldn't get the license plate.
https://abc7.com/aiden-leos-suspect-car-photo-chp-shooting-death/10705417/
https://abc7.com/aiden-leos-suspect-car-photo-chp-shooting-death/10705417/
Wow! Up to $310,000 reward now (and counting)!
Great news! With a true vehicle identification I'm hoping the end is near!
Uptosnuff
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I'm coming to this thread a little late but I can't get past this. Totally disagree with this sentiment. It is no one's fault except the piece of #### that pulled the trigger on that gun that this boy is dead. I don't care how many fingers were flipped at the other driver. It is NEVER permissible to use a gun to show your displeasure.
What needs to be done in the US is combat this attitude that you settle differences, fears, anger, etc. by pulling a trigger on a gun. Until we stop tolerating this type of attitude, the gun violence won't end.
1. You miss the point.
2. You misinterpret criticism of the mother's actions.
1. No one is totally blaming the mother. We are saying the mother's immaturity & lack of self control set off the shooter.
2. Those who criticize the mother's actions do not have the attitude that differences should be settled with a gun.
Been There
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Uptosnuff
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@ win231 I don't think I'm missing the point at all. The poster was, at least in part, blaming the mother on her child's death because she flipped off the other driver. She reacted badly, yes, I don't condone flipping off other drivers, but she certainly doesn't deserve any blame for what some jerk did to her child. Haven't you ever reacted badly to something some other driver did to you? I have and I am certain everyone has at one time or another. We are all human. But we shouldn't expect to get shot or killed for it.
The fact that these types of incidences continue to happen and are increasing tells me that we need to step back and get to the root of why people are taking to guns.
The fact that these types of incidences continue to happen and are increasing tells me that we need to step back and get to the root of why people are taking to guns.