Will The Taliban Take Kabul on 9-11?

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PROBABLY, wait until we clear the embassy with the 2,0000 troops have left. They don't want to risk the Americans coming back.

Just think of all the weapons and equipment the US will leave behind, which will make the Taliban's neighbors shake.
 
Have watched the Marines trying to control the desperation of the Vietnamese people trying to board the last helicopter from the U S Embassy. several times.
It was a dark day for American Honor.
Are we going to see it again in Afgham?


We have used untold thousands of Afgham Nationals, we cannot bring them all to American?
 
I saw yesterday when asking why the Afghan troops cannot fight off the Taliban it was noted very low pay, corrupt military and corrupt government. To me why train such people? Twenty years of training by the best in the world and we don't see that? Stinks of a war we fought sixty years ago.
 
fmdog44 said:
I saw yesterday when asking why the Afghan troops cannot fight off the Taliban it was noted very low pay, corrupt military and corrupt government. To me why train such people? Twenty years of training by the best in the world and we don't see that? Stinks of a war we fought sixty years ago.
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And the Taliban is getting cozy with China. China wants Kabul. It would complete their Belt & Road collection and give the CCP easy access to Afghanistan's coal and other minerals.
 
The Afghanistan/Taliban Crises

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www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/07/08/remarks-by-president-biden-on-the-drawdown-of-u-s-forces-in-afghanistan

www.state.gov/countries-areas/afghanistan/

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www.voanews.com/south-central-asia/un-survey-finds-37-spike-afghan-poppy-cultivation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_Afghanistan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Nasim_Akhundzada

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Afghanistan

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I said it on 9/12/01 and I'll say it again...carpet bomb the whole country and that's it.
If you're going to start talking about collateral damage, remember the 3k+ that died on 9/11.
These people are savages.
 
The situation reminds me of helicopter parents that are shocked when their children turn 18 and are not self sufficient adults.

We’ve spent an entire generation doing the heavy lifting and now we find out that either the people of Afghanistan are not able to defend themselves or perhaps have no interest in the agenda that we’ve been promoting.

The whole thing has been a tragic waste on so many levels.
 
fmdog44 said:
Stinks of a war we fought sixty years ago
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Yep, a lesson we should have learned.

I was happy to see us go after Al-Qaida in Afghanistan, but once they were out I always thought we should have gone. The Taliban are awful, but they did not attack us and the world is too full of awful folks for us take them all on. Iraq is a similar thing, Bush 1 got it right, Bush 2 did not.

Hindsight is always 20/20...
 
It's going to be an unfolding story with more to come. It's reminiscent of Vietnam, which eventually became a trading partner, so the final result ended up being the best it could be. Afghanistan, I'm afraid won't. Vietnam was partially westernized in a way by the French, but Afghanistan is mired in the past as a result of their version of Islam.
 
fmdog44 said:
I saw yesterday when asking why the Afghan troops cannot fight off the Taliban it was noted very low pay, corrupt military and corrupt government. To me why train such people? Twenty years of training by the best in the world and we don't see that? Stinks of a war we fought sixty years ago.
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As time goes by I'm more and more convinced that lessons of the past get forgotten, and that history inevitably will always repeat itself.
 
The Afgani army was more than happy to receive gifts of weapons and other equipment but I expect, if the truth were known, they were selling them to whoever offered the highest price while our guys did all the fighting for them. I'm sorry that innocent people, primarily women and children, will suffer but it is way past time to leave and let them sink or swim on their own.
 
Chet said:
It's going to be an unfolding story with more to come. It's reminiscent of Vietnam, which eventually became a trading partner, so the final result ended up being the best it could be. Afghanistan, I'm afraid won't. Vietnam was partially westernized in a way by the French, but Afghanistan is mired in the past as a result of their version of Islam.
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Precisely correct! It's crucial to remember that there are different versions and interpretations of Islam. The Taliban's version is absolutely fundamental while the way most Afghans practice Islam is not.
 
Murrmurr said:
And the Taliban is getting cozy with China. China wants Kabul. It would complete their Belt & Road collection and give the CCP easy access to Afghanistan's coal and other minerals.
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I agree with you but my question on China is their treatment of Muslims in their country.
 

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