Is there life in outer space?

I've never been fond of head-in-the-sand philosophies, even more so when it comes to the possibility of life outside of Earth.

What are they afraid of?

And they claim that the chances of finding another civilization at the same level of development are "astonishingly small" - where do they get THAT label from? They have that nice big picture up top and they refuse to attempt to understand its importance. CalTech has come out with a good estimate of 100-200 billion planets in the Milky Way alone - multiply that by the number of galaxies in the universe and tell me the odds are against finding life.

Fear is never a good trait for a true explorer to possess - evidently this person is not an explorer.
 
SifuPhil said:
I've never been fond of head-in-the-sand philosophies, even more so when it comes to the possibility of life outside of Earth.

What are they afraid of?

And they claim that the chances of finding another civilization at the same level of development are "astonishingly small" - where do they get THAT label from? They have that nice big picture up top and they refuse to attempt to understand its importance. CalTech has come out with a good estimate of 100-200 billion planets in the Milky Way alone - multiply that by the number of galaxies in the universe and tell me the odds are against finding life.

Fear is never a good trait for a true explorer to possess - evidently this person is not an explorer.
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The scary thing is I agree with you Phil
That Guy said:
You betcha. Now, is there intelligent life on Earth? Now, THAT'S the question...
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Looking at our leaders and knowing a majority voted for every one of them I'd say there is very few of us. Of course I included myself among the few.:wink-new:
 
I hope we don't meet any that are at roughly our level. Think about it. Why are we looking for other planets? What is the first reaction when one is found?
I read about that 'new earthlike planet' discovered recently and all the comments went along the lines of ... "how wonderful, there's somewhere we can settle."
Not a single one considered that it might be already occupied by beings who really don't want to vanish to accommodate us.

They also didn't mention that at our level of technology it would take us roughly 370,000 years to even get there, but that's not what they're focused on is it?

Considering that anyone making it this far would have far better technology, just to make the journey, then I have to wonder if they're looking for somewhere to expand and house their evergrowing population too. If they think anything approaching the way we do then they'll be here for the land, not for the delights of making the acquaintance of an inferior species. We ain't anything special to know, despite what we seem to think. They won't learn anything from us, we'll go the way of the Incas and others who were wiped out by superior technology.

It isn't a matter of being 'scared', it's just logic isn't it?

I don't doubt there is a good probability of other lifeforms existing but I do question the waste of money spent in trying to contact another source of virus' and all that go with them when we already have enough trouble trying to quarantine against the home grown varieties. Why are we so desperate for 'company'? Hoping for someone to come in and solve all our problems, like a new messiah or something? Careful what you wish for. :cool:
 
Some good points, Di.

Even beyond the practical considerations of expansion space and gaining new technology is I think Man's eternal need to know. Man needs to know whether or not there is life somewhere else; he needs to be constantly assured that he isn't alone on Earth.

That's why the ancient Gods were invented. That's why we're so fascinated with death and dying and seeing ghosts. We want to believe there's something beyond what we can see and touch and feel.

Oh, wait ... "beyond what we can see and touch and feel" ... like a planet very, very far away ...

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Maybe we're looking for God?
 
Diwundrin: I don't doubt there is a good probability of other lifeforms existing but I do question the waste of money spent in trying to contact another source of virus' and all that go with them when we already have enough trouble trying to quarantine against the home grown varieties. Why are we so desperate for 'company'? Hoping for someone to come in and solve all our problems, like a new messiah or something? Careful what you wish for.
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I agree totally. I sometimes think they walk among us now, cleverly disquised as planet Earth humaniods for whatever reason. I think this because it's an easy explanation for the unexplainable way people behave sometimes.

Besides, if the center of the earth is inhabited by aliens, there has to be life in outer space.

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It seems to me that as enormous as this universe is, and as old as it is , that there are a lot of possibilities of inhabited planets, and in all aspects of development.

There are actually probably enough inhabitable planets that space travelers might find, that they should not necessarily need or want to come here, destroy us, and take over our planet.
It is possible that this could be the case, but to my mind, equally possible that a higher civilization might come here and help us.
It is also possible that we could use nuclear bombs, and destroy all human life here, all on our own, or that a comet strike might throw us out of orbit, so life is not guaranteed , in any circumstance.

Personally, I would not be surprised if we already had "visitors" from somewhere.
If you look back over history, nothing much really changed in how humans lived for the last few thousand years.
People lived in wood or rock homes, and traveled either on foot, or using horses or other livestock, depending on what part of the world they were from.
There were inventions, but nothing that revolutionized the world, once the wheel was developed.
The rich lived better than the poor, for sure, but even they did not have any real conveniences, compared to how we live today.

Around the start of the 1900s, things really started to change, and in the last 100 years, we have more new developments than we had for the last 2000 years. What happened ? Where did writers like Jules Verne get their advanced ideas ? What about Tesla ? Did Eisenhower really meet with aliens when he was president ?
Something happened that led to huge changes in this world, that is for sure.
 
Human invention is a very different subject to 'alien technology' though. We can and do adapt to what we invent because it's invented to fill a niche that (with some notable exceptions) improves our lives. It's comparing apples to oranges.
Looking for technology from afar which was never designed to suit us is about as useful as giving refrigerators to cavemen. They may find a use for them, but it would be impossible for them to use them for what they were designed to do as the accompanying technology doesn't exist.

I think that hope for help is based, as mentioned, on the need to believe that someone, somewhere will come along to supervise us and show the way. "Help us' with what exactly? It doesn't show much confidence in the human race at all really does it? Just that some of us believe we aren't fit to be let out on our own. :biggrin-new:
 
Careful, felow posters....surely you've all heard about Denver airport and the unexplainable symbols there, and the underground tunnels?? Oh, and the Reptilians working down there, too. It all relates to the Elite and their plan fo us. Lets figure out what's going on here before we explore other planets for life.

Seriously tho, I don't see why there couldn't be life on other planets/galaxies. It's a huge universe out there, and we've really no idea what we might have to learn.
 
Curiosity. I just want to know. I'm not interested in mythical beings made up to satisfy fear of dying or anything. This is a fantastic world and an even more fantastic universe and I want to learn all I can about it. I'm not searching for any gods I'm just searching for knowledge.
 
rkunsaw said:
Curiosity. I just want to know. I'm not interested in mythical beings made up to satisfy fear of dying or anything. This is a fantastic world and an even more fantastic universe and I want to learn all I can about it. I'm not searching for any gods I'm just searching for knowledge.
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Way to go rkunsaw, never tire of wanting to know why and how. That's what my username is about, it's a saying down here, 'try it, don't die wondering.' We just pronounce it funny. :biggrin-new:

What makes the Universe tick is far more fascinating than the supernatural to me too. :)
 
rkunsaw said:
The scary thing is I agree with you Phil

Looking at our leaders and knowing a majority voted for every one of them I'd say there is very few of us. Of course I included myself among the few.:wink-new:
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Leaders??? Hell, I wouldn't follow these clowns to a circus!
 
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