Have a positive Covid test after being vaccinated?

MrPants said:
Yes, fully vaccinate people get the virus. The difference is vaccinated people do not get nearly as sick as unvaxxed people. Only those with other serious underlying medical conditions end up in hospital or in the ICU if fully vaccinated. In most communities 85-90% of the ICU patients are unvaxxed & even a higher percentage when it comes to death from the virus. That's why most still want to be vaccinated. It's the same with the flu vaccine as well. Doesn't mean you won't get the flu but it will be a far less unpleasant experience than if you didn't get vaccinated.
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Hi, new & curious if any fully vaccinated & in same area, would like to start a group for coffee, wine, conversation, games, etc.?
 
chic said:
I only know 2 people so far who caught covid after being fully vaxxed, my friend and his wife who was dying of brain nodules in the hospital. He's fine and never required hospitalization. She died, but from her brain nodules not really from covid but I don't know how the hospital will report this because she was fully vaxxed that would make her a breakthrough case death and that isn't appreciated these days. It's confusing.
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I'd bet the farm it will be counted as COVID related.
 

wisteria said:
Hi, new & curious if any fully vaccinated & in same area, would like to start a group for coffee, wine, conversation, games, etc.?
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Would help if you stated what area you're from? Maybe I missed another post where you stated that?
 
chic said:
Oh sure and it isn't fair, but it's a breakthrough case since they were both fully vaccinated and that isn't something the gov will want people to focus on since the narrative is to push the vaccine.
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I wish the government would just stay out of this altogether. It is a scientific medical issue. Let them figure it all out and the virus will run its course. As with all pathogens, everyone is affected differently, vaccinated or not. Some will die, regardless, more will not.
 
When I got my vaccine shots, I don't remember having to show any proof that I am a legal resident. You do need some form of ID, but a driver's license was good enough, from what I remember.
 
chic said:
Oh sure and it isn't fair, but it's a breakthrough case since they were both fully vaccinated and that isn't something the gov will want people to focus on since the narrative is to push the vaccine.
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I'm surprised at how few people have the sense to realize that.
 
both the Netherlands study and now oxford are showing while vaccinated and unvaccinated spew close to the same viral level , when cultured the viruses are quite different.

the virus tended to have trouble replicating and or was sickly from those vaccinated …it was harder to get someone else sick and if they did the virus tended to not get them as sick if vaccinated
 
CDC Director Rochelle Walensky this week said the Covid vaccines do not prevent transmission of the China virus.

“Our vaccines are working exceptionally well,” Walensky said then in the same breath "admitted they “cannot prevent transmission.”
Walensky actually warned the vaccinated from infecting the unvaccinated. 😲

You just can’t make this stuff up. :(
 
chic said:
Oh sure and it isn't fair, but it's a breakthrough case since they were both fully vaccinated and that isn't something the gov will want people to focus on since the narrative is to push the vaccine.
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we were told ,in no uncertain terms that there would be cases even with a vaccination. no vaccination is 100% and what cases there are, are milder.
 
Lewkat said:
I wish the government would just stay out of this altogether. It is a scientific medical issue. Let them figure it all out and the virus will run its course. As with all pathogens, everyone is affected differently, vaccinated or not. Some will die, regardless, more will not.
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Whenever this kind of money is involved, the government will stay in it.
 
suds00 said:
we were told ,in no uncertain terms that there would be cases even with a vaccination. no vaccination is 100% and what cases there are, are milder.
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We were not told that the vaccine would not prevent infection or transmission UNTIL that started happening - months after they brought out the vaccine. They had to be more honest then - only because they were forced to be.
And, just as with flu shots, they're using that same tired old line - "You'll have a milder illness if you're vaccinated."
 
suds00 said:
we were told ,in no uncertain terms that there would be cases even with a vaccination. no vaccination is 100% and what cases there are, are milder.
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We were told 4 weeks to flatten the curve too. Two years later... And we had fewer covid cases a year ago with NO vaccine than we do now. But you can't ask these questions can you because, they will only be answered with more narrative.
 
So far those that I have come in contact with are still clear, I'm as well.

I still avoid risky areas and use gel when out and wash up when I return.
It might be helping that I have been vaccinated for pneumonia.

I will be getting the double senior Flu Vaccine this week. Be well every one...
 
chic said:
We were told 4 weeks to flatten the curve too. Two years later... And we had fewer covid cases a year ago with NO vaccine than we do now. But you can't ask these questions can you because, they will only be answered with more narrative.
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A year ago people were locked inside , businesses were closed ,schools were closed ….so yeah cases fell off a cliff .

try opening it all up with with no vaccines and see what we would have looked like..

oh wait we can , look at Australia
 
chic said:
We were told 4 weeks to flatten the curve too. Two years later... And we had fewer covid cases a year ago with NO vaccine than we do now. But you can't ask these questions can you because, they will only be answered with more narrative.
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we didn't have the delta variant one year ago. we could have flattened the curve if people had taken precautions after being given the correct guidance from our government . what other questions do you propose that i ask ?
 
win231 said:
We were not told that the vaccine would not prevent infection or transmission UNTIL that started happening - months after they brought out the vaccine. They had to be more honest then - only because they were forced to be.
And, just as with flu shots, they're using that same tired old line - "You'll have a milder illness if you're vaccinated."
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they said the virus is not 100% at the beginning. the tired old line is true.
 
Lewkat said:
I wish the government would just stay out of this altogether. It is a scientific medical issue. Let them figure it all out and the virus will run its course. As with all pathogens, everyone is affected differently, vaccinated or not. Some will die, regardless, more will not.
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people rely on the government .nothing would happen if we only relied on scientists.
 
chic said:
Oh sure and it isn't fair, but it's a breakthrough case since they were both fully vaccinated and that isn't something the gov will want people to focus on since the narrative is to push the vaccine.
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We have a display on the National Mall of 700,000 white flags, each flag representing someone in this country who died of Covid. Not since the Aids quilt has there been anything like that on the Mall. The purpose is to show people what 700,000 looks like.

Just reading a number is one thing, but seeing a graphic representation of people, most of whom would still be alive, more of them then the eye can take in from where you are standing, makes its point much more meaningfully. Imagine the amount of grief, loss, suffering, and a cruel death in an ICU bed, choking and gasping for air, represented by each flag.... and then realize that most of those deaths could have been prevented by a couple of simple shots.

For those of you who are still desperately clinging to what you have been taught to think (by the ignorant, the nutty, and the self-serving), maybe it's time to drop the politics, do what you can to save your own life, and stop trying to convince people to be afraid of a harmless vaccine.

And for the zillionth time, the number of breakthrough cases isn't important. People don't die of that. It's the unvaccinated who die of it.
 
Sunny said:
We have a display on the National Mall of 700,000 white flags, each flag representing someone in this country who died of Covid. Not since the Aids quilt has there been anything like that on the Mall. The purpose is to show people what 700,000 looks like.

Just reading a number is one thing, but seeing a graphic representation of people, most of whom would still be alive, more of them then the eye can take in from where you are standing, makes its point much more meaningfully. Imagine the amount of grief, loss, suffering, and a cruel death in an ICU bed, choking and gasping for air, represented by each flag.... and then realize that most of those deaths could have been prevented by a couple of simple shots.

For those of you who are still desperately clinging to what you have been taught to think (by the ignorant, the nutty, and the self-serving), maybe it's time to drop the politics, do what you can to save your own life, and stop trying to convince people to be afraid of a harmless vaccine.

And for the zillionth time, the number of breakthrough cases isn't important. People don't die of that. It's the unvaccinated who die of it.
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People do contract, transmit, require hospitalization, and die after being fully vaccinated.
 
mathjak107 said:
A year ago people were locked inside , businesses were closed ,schools were closed ….so yeah cases fell off a cliff .

try opening it all up with with no vaccines and see what we would have looked like..

oh wait we can , look at Australia
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A year ago businesses were fully open where I live except for nightclubs. I can't speak for the rest of the world.

I agree. Australia is alarming, but it's none of my business because I'm not Australian.
 
"And for the zillionth time, the number of breakthrough cases isn't important. People don't die of that."

Spouting that misinformation again that vaccinated people don't die from Covid. :rolleyes:

Oh and breakthrough cases are not important. 😥
 

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