Vaccines

Ruthanne said:
Some people are just plain idiots I swear when it comes to this issue. :cry: I'm not talking about those who don't vaccine for medical reasons either--they have a VALID excuse.

I'm tired of those who are adding to the death toll and infecting others by not vaccinning and catching this horrid disease! There personal freedoms are at risk? And what about the freedom of those others you kill by infecting them, huh? Is that a joke, too?

Quit being political about this and own up to helping our society LIVE!!
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But I thought the holy vaccine was helping???? Now there is the Booster? How many vaccines are there?? I heard there will be a 4th one coming soon. Too much is too much. However, we all do what is best for us. I am seeing first hand how the vaccine is effecting some people. Again, we all do what is best for us. So, those that have underlying conditions and told by their dr not to take the vaccine they are not able to spread the virus???????????????
 
Shero said:
Well, if you open the links like an intelligent person would, then you will learn and be educated.
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:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: So links are the answer?? NO, not for me. Are you calling yourself unintelligent? If not, why would you call me unintelligent because I do not open links that I have no clue as to the authenticity of the information? Sometimes when someone hit a nerve, they are normally looking in a mirror and don't like what they see. What makes you think I am not educating myself? Is it because I am not on board as to what you believe?? Never did I refer you to a link and if you did not open the link, I felt you were are not intelligent. I think you are very intelligent.
 

Ladybj said:
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: So links are the answer?? NO, not for me. Are you calling yourself unintelligent? If not, why would you call me unintelligent because I do not open links that I have no clue as to the authenticity of the information? Sometimes when someone hit a nerve, they are normally looking in a mirror and don't like what they see. What makes you think I am not educating myself? Is it because I am not on board as to what you believe?? Never did I refer you to a link and if you did not open the link, I felt you were are not intelligent. I think you are very intelligent.
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I would like to blame your silliness on age, but, if I remember correctly, you said you were in your 60s. To me that is not old, so there must be another reason for your repetitive posts.
 
Aneeda72 said:
@win231 Sadly the vaccine was NEVER meant to keep people from getting Covid. Why people keep forgetting this on this forum and in the real world is beyond me. Unless you have personally dealt with Covid yourself or through family or friends, your yapping is just that, yapping and needless name calling over a subject you have NO DIRECT KNOWLEDGE of.

The vaccine was and is meant to be a protection against severe Covid and death. Hopefully, it would prevent hospitalization as well. The saddest breakthrough cases of all those are those that result in death, of course.

As it was learned that the antibodies drop, a booster was suggested and allowed. It was not allowed in time for my vaccinated youngest son to get this shot, thus he caught Delta Covid-19 and was hospitalized. Delta spread like wildfire through the sheltered workshop and the workshop is now closed for two weeks.
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Well said, thank you.
 
Ladybj said:
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: So links are the answer?? NO, not for me. Are you calling yourself unintelligent? If not, why would you call me unintelligent because I do not open links that I have no clue as to the authenticity of the information? Sometimes when someone hit a nerve, they are normally looking in a mirror and don't like what they see. What makes you think I am not educating myself? Is it because I am not on board as to what you believe?? Never did I refer you to a link and if you did not open the link, I felt you were are not intelligent. I think you are very intelligent.
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You're not educated because you don't sprinkle French words in your posts like.......educated people do. :ROFLMAO:
 
Ladybj said:
But I thought the holy vaccine was helping???? Now there is the Booster? How many vaccines are there?? I heard there will be a 4th one coming soon. Too much is too much. However, we all do what is best for us. I am seeing first hand how the vaccine is effecting some people. Again, we all do what is best for us. So, those that have underlying conditions and told by their dr not to take the vaccine they are not able to spread the virus???????????????
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I think the FOURTH vaccine may be specifically to address the Delta variant. I was anxious to get the first two vaccines, thrilled to get the booster, and I will get the fourth shot, if there, is one and be grateful for it.

As you say, we all do what we think is best for us, the rest of my family will follow this path as well. Cause we all think this is best for all of us. You need to do what is best for you and yours.

The unvaccinated can only spread the virus if they have the virus. When most people have the virus they are responsible enough or sick enough to isolate, a few are not, of course. Once people have the virus, they add to the herd immunity.

But, unfortunately, the Delta variant has changed everything we thought we knew. I do not blame anyone for my son Joey getting the delta virus. But as soon as he is well enough he will get the booster. This is what the COVID-19 doctor, the expert, at the hospital said. As soon as he is well, he needs to get the booster. I can assure you he will.
 
Shero said:
Well, if you open the links like an intelligent person would, then you will learn and be educated.
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Well, I thought I was somewhat intelligent, my IQ test says I am intelligent, but I rarely open links. I just don’t care enough to do so. 😊. When you @Shero say something like this, due to frustration, you paint everyone who acts in that manner with the same brush.

Somewhat like win who calls everyone who does not agree with him an idiot. 🤦🏻‍♀️
 
Aneeda72 said:
Well, I thought I was somewhat intelligent, my IQ test says I am intelligent, but I rarely open links. I just don’t care enough to do so. 😊. When you @Shero say something like this, due to frustration, you paint everyone who acts in that manner with the same brush.

Somewhat like win who calls everyone who does not agree with him an idiot. 🤦🏻‍♀️
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Really???? If a person does not open links or go find the information for themselves, then they are not equipped to answer the relevant question!!
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Shero said:
Really???? If a person does not open links or go find the information for themselves, then they are not equipped to answer the relevant question!!
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Well, I don’t know what the relevant question is that you refer to; but I had a long conversation with my son’s Covid doctor while I visited my son in his room at the hospital. I have “reported” parts of that conversation, but I can’t provide a link to it.

Does my inability to provide a link make my statements untrue? I don’t know. We all believe what we believe. But I do know this, I could care less about links. Six members of my very small family have had Covid, the youngest was 2 years old and the oldest 52. I have very up close and personal knowledge of this horrific virus.

But, 😂, I don’t have any links.
 
While many have taken the vaccine successfully, many have been harmed by it according to Vaers and I do believe those reports, videos and public testimonies I've watched claiming harm from the vaccine just as I believe many of my friends and relatives have had the vaccine without negative side effects, so far.
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Chic, that "many have been harmed by it" is a bogus bit of scare tactics, probably promulgated for political purposes. You seem to be scared to death of the vaccine, so obviously you are ready to believe it.

Of course, it partly depends on your definition of "many." How many are you talking about? Out of millions who received the vaccine with mild side effects (or none), maybe three had serious side effects? Ten? A hundred? Whatever the number is, if it's even true at all, how does it compare with the number who have died of this killer of a disease?
 
I don't open inserted links either!

'Anyone can create/post/publish anything they want on the web without fear of consequences'

That being said here's you a link.

https://www.culteducation.com/

Rick Ross was a positive source of information when I was getting out of my born-into religious cult back in the 80's.
 
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chic said:
They are giving 4th shots in Israel so I guess people in other countries can expect that as well.
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Israel was believed to be the most informed and up to date
country in the World about treating the virus, they used the
Russian Sputnik Vaccine and had excellent results from it, they
thought that they had it beaten, but so many variants came
along, so they had to go for a booster, they worked too, but
reports are coming out of the country that they may need a
fourth and possibly an annual shot to help.

I believe that 98% of the population there are vaccinated and
the others are probably exempt.

If anybody needs a link, Google has them all, just ask there.

Mike.
 
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Sunny said:
Chic, that "many have been harmed by it" is a bogus bit of scare tactics, probably promulgated for political purposes. You seem to be scared to death of the vaccine, so obviously you are ready to believe it.

Of course, it partly depends on your definition of "many." How many are you talking about? Out of millions who received the vaccine with mild side effects (or none), maybe three had serious side effects? Ten? A hundred? Whatever the number is, if it's even true at all, how does it compare with the number who have died of this killer of a disease?
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In July 2021, I watched 1,000 Vaers videos of people who had negative side effects from this vaccine. Some were left paralyzed. Some had developed seizures. Some were sickened and could no longer take care of themselves. Some were family members reporting on the death of a loved one. None of the sick had recovered.

If this vaccine is so safe, why is there no product liability? If you have a negative side effect, you are on your own to solve the problem and THAT becomes very much my problem with this vaccine.

People can call me stupid, uneducated, or a conspiracy theorist. That's fine. I don't care anymore. After 20 months of this I'm surprised anyone still believes those feigning knowledge and leadership over this issue. All they have given us is strife, mandates and more division than I have ever seen in my lifetime.
 
chic said:
In July 2021, I watched 1,000 Vaers videos of people who had negative side effects from this vaccine. Some were left paralyzed. Some had developed seizures. Some were sickened and could no longer take care of themselves. Some were family members reporting on the death of a loved one. None of the sick had recovered.

If this vaccine is so safe, why is there no product liability? If you have a negative side effect, you are on your own to solve the problem and THAT becomes very much my problem with this vaccine.

People can call me stupid, uneducated, or a conspiracy theorist. That's fine. I don't care anymore. After 20 months of this I'm surprised anyone still believes those feigning knowledge and leadership over this issue. All they have given us is strife, mandates and more division than I have ever seen in my lifetime.
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Well, I won’t call you names, I think name calling is awful..as for watching videos, well, hmm, gee, lots of videos are called movies, and anything can be faked in a movie. Just saying-unless you have seen it in person, it can be faked.
 
There seems to be a lot of claims of harm and even deaths
in America, all linked the vaccinations, yet there are very few,
reported here, or even other European countries, at least I
haven't read or heard any reports that I can remember, this
makes me wonder why, are your versions of the vaccine not
safe, or are the stories of harm and deaths, just that stories,
with some powerful backers?

Hopefully they are just stories to frighten people and to stop
them from having the jabs, but why, to damage the company
that made a vaccine, by a disgruntled other company who was
refused a licence.

I find it sad that such reports are out there.

Mike.
 
Aneeda72 said:
Well, I thought I was somewhat intelligent, my IQ test says I am intelligent, but I rarely open links. I just don’t care enough to do so. 😊. When you @Shero say something like this, due to frustration, you paint everyone who acts in that manner with the same brush.

Somewhat like win who calls everyone who does not agree with him an idiot. 🤦🏻‍♀️
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It's called "Give & Take." You ridicule me, you get ridiculed back. The idiot is the one who starts it.
 
chic said:
In July 2021, I watched 1,000 Vaers videos of people who had negative side effects from this vaccine. Some were left paralyzed. Some had developed seizures. Some were sickened and could no longer take care of themselves. Some were family members reporting on the death of a loved one. None of the sick had recovered.

If this vaccine is so safe, why is there no product liability? If you have a negative side effect, you are on your own to solve the problem and THAT becomes very much my problem with this vaccine.

People can call me stupid, uneducated, or a conspiracy theorist. That's fine. I don't care anymore. After 20 months of this I'm surprised anyone still believes those feigning knowledge and leadership over this issue. All they have given us is strife, mandates and more division than I have ever seen in my lifetime.
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No product liability is for their protection. When a vaccine causes a problem, they'll say, "Well, nobody forced you to take it."
 
Aneeda72 said:
Well, I thought I was somewhat intelligent, my IQ test says I am intelligent, but I rarely open links. I just don’t care enough to do so. 😊. When you @Shero say something like this, due to frustration, you paint everyone who acts in that manner with the same brush.

Somewhat like win who calls everyone who does not agree with him an idiot. 🤦🏻‍♀️
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Oh, no. I'd never call anyone an idiot if they spoke some French! 😂
 

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