Do you love your country?

Bretrick

Bretrick

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Do you defend your country from those who continually badmouth where you were born?
Or has your country lost it's way?
Would you flee your country given the chance?
I love Australia with a deep passion. Obviously I am going to say it is the best country in the world but I have not been to many other countries.
Those countries outside of Australia I have been to were incredibly overcrowded.
Many of the people were scammers trying to fleece me for all I was worth.
The inequality was appalling. With people lying in the gutters outside 5 star hotels.
Yes, there is a lot wrong with Australia, but in comparison to the world as a whole, we have it pretty good.
I would never leave my country. Where would I go to find what I have here?
 

I love the USA. It's my home. Yes, I defend it to some who want to continually badmouth it. There are many great things about my country and my state and city. I live in the "city of homes." There are many, many homes here in a not so big city. The architecture of the buildings is phenomenal and the city is very scenic with many cool landscapes.

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Bretrick said:
Do you defend your country from those who continually badmouth where you were born?
Or has your country lost it's way?
Would you flee your country given the chance?
I love Australia with a deep passion. Obviously I am going to say it is the best country in the world but I have not been to many other countries.
Those countries outside of Australia I have been to were incredibly overcrowded.
Many of the people were scammers trying to fleece me for all I was worth.
The inequality was appalling. With people lying in the gutters outside 5 star hotels.
Yes, there is a lot wrong with Australia, but in comparison to the world as a whole, we have it pretty good.
I would never leave my country. Where would I go to find what I have here?
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I love your country, too. I have never been to Perth, but I've visited Sydney, Melbourne and even Canberra on business. Australia is beautiful, and your people are so endearing and welcoming.

Yes, I love my country, the USA. What is happening right now with the divisiveness is unfortunate, but I think think there is still an underlying goodness in the majority of our citizens. I've entertained the thought of moving to Portugal because retired life is said to be great there, but we live a good life here and have everything we need.

With that said, ask me again in 2024, after our next Presidential election. ;)
 

dseag2 said:
I love your country, too. I have never been to Perth, but I've visited Sydney, Melbourne and even Canberra on business. Australia is beautiful, and your people are so endearing and welcoming.

Yes, I love my country, the USA. What is happening right now with the divisiveness is unfortunate, but I think think there is still an underlying goodness in the majority of our citizens. I've entertained the thought of moving to Portugal because retired life is said to be great there, but we live a good life here and have everything we need.

With that said, ask me again in 2024, after our next Presidential election. ;)
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I have always loved my country USA. And you can also ask me after the next Presidential election.
 
I was born and raised in Canada, having lived in the west coast and the east. I've traveled parts of the eastern U.S., and have American friends.

Australia has the closest medical system to ours, which was a big plus - and I found the people extremely open. I love Oz almost as much as I love Canada.

As most people, I feel I live in the best country in the world, though it's not perfect.
 
Yes and am proud of the United States of America. There have always been problems in the nation however that was never the local world I experienced. But much prefer the nation and people of the era I grew up in during the previous 20th century. Where it has since gone this 21st century is sad at many levels.
 
I am grateful I was born and raised in the United States of America, and chances are I will live my last days here. I have no desire to live in any other country, I'm quite happy and content here and have had a good and comfortable life in the US.

From my personal experience in life, the American people are kind, caring and generous, always a good vibe from those who I've come in contact with over the years. Of course there are things about America that haven't been ideal in our history, I don't like that but I accept it. If others have valid criticism of actions we've taken in the past, I don't defend against anything if it's truthful.

If for some odd reason I'd have to live in another country, of course it would be our neighbor, Canada. Another beautiful country with great people.
 
SeaBreeze said:
I am grateful I was born and raised in the United States of America, and chances are I will live my last days here. I have no desire to live in any other country, I'm quite happy and content here and have had a good and comfortable life in the US.

From my personal experience in life, the American people are kind, caring and generous, always a good vibe from those who I've come in contact with over the years. Of course there are things about America that haven't been ideal in our history, I don't like that but I accept it. If others have valid criticism of actions we've taken in the past, I don't defend against anything if it's truthful.

If for some odd reason I'd have to live in another country, of course it would be our neighbor, Canada. Another beautiful country with great people.
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Amen to that! I love Canada as well as my home country.
 
I love the land of my birth but I am not a member of the "my country right or wrong" set. There have been times when I have been ashamed of my nation.

Australia is my home but I don't own it. As I grow older I become more like our indigenous people in that I see myself as a custodian, or in biblical terms, a steward, with responsibility to share, look after and protect this land. I have learned that Australia is unique, with unique fauna and flora and my goal is to see that it is handed on to future generations in good condition because it is more precious than anything crafted by human hands.
 
Warrigal said:
I love the land of my birth but I am not a member of the "my country right or wrong" set. There have been times when I have been ashamed of my nation.

Australia is my home but I don't own it. As I grow older I become more like our indigenous people in that I see myself as a custodian, or in biblical terms, a steward, with responsibility to share, look after and protect this land. I have learned that Australia is unique, with unique fauna and flora and my goal is to see that it is handed on to future generations in good condition because it is more precious than anything crafted by human hands.
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Very good answer in my view, (I think I can say the same for my country, made up of four nations, and all the better for that!). :)
 
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Bretrick said:
Do you defend your country from those who continually badmouth where you were born?
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I usually let anyone bad mouthing anything go ahead and jack their jaws.

Heh, if I was, say, sitting in a bar.....here in the states, and they'd be bad mouthing the states, I'd most likely ask why they were here...

If I was in another country, and they were bad mouthing the states, I'd probably quietly sip my drink til they were done, then ask if they'd ever been to the states.

If they had, and told me the vicinity, I'd let them know why their experience was less than optimal

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Would you flee your country given the chance?
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Nada
After traveling around a bit, I'm never so glad to be back home
 
It's okay, but there's a definitely lot of room for improvement. I wouldn't mind moving to a more modern country like France. It would be cool to be able to travel around by high-speed rail, and the countryside there is beautiful and clean from what I saw of it. Everything gets trashed out here in the U.S. People seemed to have stopped cleaning up after their dogs in the park down the street. WTF? They don't have the slums like we have here. They have poor people, but not the kind of poverty and homelessness that we have, or the crime and gun violence. They have a much better healthcare system that doesn't bankrupt people.

I love the U.S. to the point where I want it to be the best it can be, which would take investment, and nearly half of the people here don't want to invest in our country. They're all for spending trillions on idiotic wars that only benefit the rich and the MIC, but are adamantly apposed to fixing our infrastructure or building high-speed rail, or doing something about the cost of healthcare.

So, I'd love our country a lot more if we had a higher percentage of good and decent people, but if that was the case, we wouldn't have all the other problems.
 
I love my country, America and I would never leave it. Yes, I would defend it if I needed to. As far as people badmouthing it, well you never know what others are going through and I think when things aren't going their way they do that. No matter how bad it might seem to others, even now, I have no complaints. My life is good.
 
I defend truth and I despise people who do not. If someone criticises my country, so what? If they are right I will agree with them, if they are wrong I will tell them they are wrong. If "Love" is measured in your eagerness to deny the truth then you are not a good person.
 
The English speaking countries are a magnet for migrants and refugees alike. There is much that we can criticise of course, but our criticisms won't result in a midnight knock on door by a couple of heavies. English, that's the language of English is much like the Latin of centuries ago, it is widely spoken and used by those of non English speaking countries to communicate with each other.

The history of trial by jury in England is influential because many English and later British colonies adopted the English common law system in which trial by jury plays an important part. Many traditions, such as the number of members being twelve, originated in England.
The juries under the assizes began deciding guilt as well as providing accusations. The same year, trial by jury became a fairly explicit right in one of the most influential clauses of Magna Carta, signed by King John. Article 39 of Magna Carta reads (translated by Lysander Spooner in his Essay on the Trial by Jury (1852)):

No free man shall be captured or imprisoned or disseised of his freehold or of his liberties, or of his free customs, or be outlawed or exiled or in any way destroyed, nor will we proceed against him by force or proceed against him by arms, but by the lawful judgment of his peers or by the law of the land.
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Did you know that The Fifth Amendment to the Constitution of the USA, which guarantees “no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law,” is a concept that comes from Magna Carta.

All the rights that the English speaking countries enjoy have been around for centuries, we do have a lot to answer for, notably slavery, but in the main, I do love my country, warts and all.
 
horseless carriage said:
... There is much that we can criticise of course, but our criticisms won't result in a midnight knock on door by a couple of heavies. ....
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This is not correct.
horseless carriage said:
All the rights that the English speaking countries enjoy have been around for centuries......
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You have put your foot in your mouth now twice. Would you care to retract thoose statements before I begin to list all of the atrocities?
 
I recall many years ago a church minister in N.Ireland saying that there was nothing wrong with the country, it was the people who spoiled it.
I think you can say this of many countries - there's nothing wrong with the countries, but politicians, scroungers and other self-serving people and organisations allow it to be ruined.

Britain is gradually being destroyed and politicians don't seem to have the will to stop it. The SNP is hell bent on independence for Scotland at any cost - and it would be a very high cost.

So, I love my country, but because of the way it is going, I wish I had left it years ago.
 
Capt Lightning said:
I recall many years ago a church minister in N.Ireland saying that there was nothing wrong with the country, it was the people who spoiled it.
I think you can say this of many countries - there's nothing wrong with the countries, but politicians, scroungers and other self-serving people and organisations allow it to be ruined.
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This really is the crux of it and I wanted to address it immediately but I left it be. "Love of country" is a fairly childish notion. I would like to correct your statement, "... countries.... politicians, scroungers and other self-serving people and organisations allow it to be ruined". No, not at all. It is the politicians, scroungers and other self-serving people and organisations who create it. Think about it before you respond.
 
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