Supplements, anyone?

Here is one you may not of heard of: Graviola, also known as Sour Sop. It is a fruit that contains compounds that fight cancer, according to some studies. I am taking it now as two capsules of extract per day in addition to the SBRT cyber-knife treatment for my prostate cancer I will be getting soon. I don't think I would hang my hat on it to cure cancer, but it could be helpful in battling it. https://www.healthline.com/health/cancer/graviola-cancer#research
 
I have [we all have I suppose] heard that self medication is the wrong way to go / dangerous.

I'm not so sure, I mean ... research the condition and what may combat it. We, cannot get the dangerous stuff anyway .... [without a script] [unless something [OTC] is taken in masive amounts]

IMO, that is what doctors used to do anyway. They would study conditions , and what works , or doesn't to combat that condition.

Now days I believe they no longer really do that. They are instructed on what to prescribe for the condition. Not much thought, little to no reasearch [ at least after med school]

Next step in the education is learning how to invest in the companies that produce said meds !
 

Obviously some people due to their genetics and life history will benefit from supplements while others like this person that have not used any over decades while just eating healthy and being actively fit, do not need any. One thing I do consume significant greater than normal quantities of is milk and dairy products. My hair and fingernails grow fast. Despite having a thin small boned frame, have never had a broken bone despite very active outdoor sports.
 
Michael Z said:
Most of my diet consists of salads that consist of spinach, kale, peppers, onions, mushrooms, cauliflower, tomatoes, curry powder, pepper, olive oil, and unpasteurized apple cider vinegar. I will have the salad with rice or quinoa and sometimes a bit of chicken or fish. With this I take Vitamin D3, C, and zinc along with vitamin B if I do not eat much meat. I also eat oatmeal with fresh ginger slices, chia, walnuts, and fruit with 1/2 tsp of black cumin powder a few times a day. Also drink about 16 oz of juice made from carrots, beet, apple, celery and fresh ginger each day. I go through 1 1/2 pounds of ginger root per week! The black powder (cumin) actually provides me my needed iron!

I have prostate cancer and this diet actually brought my PSA levels down the first year! But then they started creeping up slowly for 3 years so I am getting proton beam therapy soon. What I noticed while on this diet was I used far less ibuprofen - less than 1/5 of what I previously used.
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Hi Michael Z, the Zinc in your diet gives me cause for concern. I read an article that Zinc might feed prostate cancer cells: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12837837/ although there have been mixed results in other articles.

Also, if you're eating nuts and seeds, they provide zinc. Meat also has zinc. So you might reconsider your zinc supplements. A vegetarian diet might help. I'm not a doctor but have worked in the healthcare industry for many years. My dad was a meat eater and he got prostate cancer (I also think it was genetic), but it was slow growing: he had it for 15 years.

PS This is NOT medical advice, just an opinion.

Best of luck!
 
palides2021 said:
Hi Michael Z, the Zinc in your diet gives me cause for concern. I read an article that Zinc might feed prostate cancer cells: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12837837/ although there have been mixed results in other articles.

Also, if you're eating nuts and seeds, they provide zinc. Meat also has zinc. So you might reconsider your zinc supplements. A vegetarian diet might help. I'm not a doctor but have worked in the healthcare industry for many years. My dad was a meat eater and he got prostate cancer (I also think it was genetic), but it was slow growing: he had it for 15 years.
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Thanks for the link! I am only taking one 50mg tablet per day of zinc, which is probably a good thing since I eat very little meat which is a primary source - in some weeks no meat at all. Also, zinc is said to help with colds, flu, and Covid19, as well as a whole host of other things, so I will probably keep taking this moderate amount of supplement. But it is good to know that I should not double up on zinc supplements, so thanks!
 
Maryatrics said:
Let me ask you some specifics about your Vitamin D. Is it Vitamin D2 at 1.25 MG(50,000 Units). If so just take it once per week.
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That's what I take, the Vit. D2 50,000IU once a week for my kidneys. It's really helped in bumping up my #s.

I've also started taking the Centrum Silver over 50 for women. Not everyday tho.
 
I've never taken suppliments, but at my annual checkup several months ago, I told the doctor that I have been experiencing some swelling in one of my feet by the end of the day. He recommended that I try horse chestnut extract (500mg 2x a day) and darned if it hasn't resolved the problem.
 
Maryatrics said:
Let me ask you some specifics about your Vitamin D. Is it Vitamin D2 at 1.25 MG(50,000 Units). If so just take it once per week.
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I had to go look! The C & D were given me by my son a few weeks ago when I couldn't shake a cold. LOL everyone's a doctor these days!

It is Spring Valley vitamin D3 10mcg (400 IU).
 
I stopped taking calcium capsules after being told not to by a reliable source.

……………….Used properly, some supplements may improve your health, but others can be ineffective or even harmful. For example, Tufts University research published April 9, 2019, in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine linked daily doses of more than 1,000 milligrams (mg) of calcium to a higher risk of death from cancer. Furthermore, the data showed that people who took in adequate amounts of magnesium, zinc, and vitamins A and K had a lower risk of death — but only if they got those nutrients from food rather than supplements…………..

https://www.everydayhealth.com/news/supplements-risks-every-women-should-know/

 
mellowyellow said:
I thought it was interesting that before I had my hip replacement, the surgeon's nurse told me to stop taking all supplements which only included glucosamine. I wondered why.
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Glucosomine can cause bleeding or interaction with other medicine. Thats probably why the nurse wanted you to not take it.
 
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