Question for the unvaccinated

It's not a "vaccine" in the traditional sense. It's an experimental drug with no product liability and no clinical trial data to be released for 55 years. If you experience an adverse event, it's all on you to pay for and live with the disability that results.

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I got my first shot. Had a major bad reaction that put me in the hospital for 4 days. Now my Drs tell me to NEVER get another covaid shot as with my underlying health conditions it could kill me.

So you got to look at all the circumstances each person that's NOT getting the shots as to why.
 
The whole vax / no vax situation went from following medical advise -V- not following medical advise to an us-V-them situation. Political / social arguments .......... which IMO should have never happened.

Left-V- right , Dem-V-republican young-V-old, black-V-white ..... etc & so-on.

I blame most of this 'back& forth' on social media ....... without it, this would have been clearly just personal choice kind of thing ........ and folks would have decided for themselves ..... with little to no comment from ??

I listened to all the pertinent information in the begining , and made my choice ..... I hope it was the correct choice for me, and that I do well.

Whatever the choice .......... I hope all others here did the same ......... and that it goes well for them .

Merry Christmas to all here on the forum !
 
rgp said:
The whole vax / no vax situation went from following medical advise -V- not following medical advise to an us-V-them situation. Political / social arguments .......... which IMO should have never happened.

Left-V- right , Dem-V-republican young-V-old, black-V-white ..... etc & so-on.

I blame most of this 'back& forth' on social media ....... without it, this would have been clearly just personal choice kind of thing ........ and folks would have decided for themselves ..... with little to no comment from ??

I listened to all the pertinent information in the begining , and made my choice ..... I hope it was the correct choice for me, and that I do well.

Whatever the choice .......... I hope all others here did the same ......... and that it goes well for them .

Merry Christmas to all here on the forum !
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Merry Christmas!

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I read an article a few days ago about a study that looked at how to motivate people to get vaccinated. They found that providing information about the safety and efficacy of vaccines had minimal effect. People reluctant to get vaccinated had their minds made up and only believed information from sources that supported their opinions, whether accurate or not. Celebrities advocating for people to get vaccinated also had little effect. What they found were incentives were the most effective way to influence people to get vaccinated.

Some states offered cash incentives of $100, which resulted in a big turnout of people wanting to get vaccinated. I would guess that it was mostly students and poor people since those groups valued $100 much more than someone earning a decent income. So that's a positive incentive which worked pretty well.

Negative incentives also work. A loss of employment for those who refuse to get vaccinated motivated a lot of people to get vaccinated.

So that's what prompted me to start this thread. I wanted to see if anyone would consent to a vaccination if they were offered $1000. Of course, that was just a hypothetical situation, and it's pretty easy to turn down an imaginary proposal since there are no actual rewards or benefits. For that reason, it's not surprising that nobody said they would get vaccinated if they were paid to.

Here's a link to the article in case anyone is interested in reading more about it:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/21/opinion/vaccine-hesitancy-covid-omicron.html
 
Irwin said:
To the unvaccinated on SFs...

If you were offered $1,000 to get vaccinated, would you?
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Why Offer money if its so great? Why just SF? Furthermore, People arent dropping dead in the streets like flies to warrant such a breathless push to pay, coerce, run people down to administer it. The procedure in treating and trying to control this virus is back asswards. Use therapeutics first instead of turning people away. At the same time telling people to go home only to come back if they cant breath. Which is too late in many many cases. What person in their right mind thinks thats right???? They knew all along we had therapeutics but they reject our requests for them and still are. Instead they dramatically drove legions of refrigerated trucks proudly showing them on every Television and internet website they could. Then all those BODY BAGS! If you are in a big city and the hospitals have a reputation for turning people away and reputation for high deaths of patients on ventilators and remdesivir, think first. Id not even go to those hospitals if I had a choice. My opinion is stay away from the hospital if you want a chance to survive and call front line doctors to help you. Meanwhile have supplements that you can help yourself with instead of counting on a hospital to help you. Be proactive and help yourself first.
 
rgp said:
The whole vax / no vax situation went from following medical advise -V- not following medical advise to an us-V-them situation. Political / social arguments .......... which IMO should have never happened.

Left-V- right , Dem-V-republican young-V-old, black-V-white ..... etc & so-on.

I blame most of this 'back& forth' on social media ....... without it, this would have been clearly just personal choice kind of thing ........ and folks would have decided for themselves ..... with little to no comment from ??

I listened to all the pertinent information in the begining , and made my choice ..... I hope it was the correct choice for me, and that I do well.

Whatever the choice .......... I hope all others here did the same ......... and that it goes well for them .

Merry Christmas to all here on the forum !
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I agree with what you're saying. I remember when a kid back in Athens Ohio. They had the polio sugar cube. No one argued over it we all went to the fairground walked up in a building & took our sugar cube with the polio vaccine in it.

Even before that, we went to a clinic where we got the other shot that left a nice ring on your arm forever. I forget what that was for but no one argued over it. Course there was no news media talking about it & also the government kept out of it. No mandates or anything. People went willingly.
 
Tom 86 said:
I agree with what you're saying. I remember when a kid back in Athens Ohio. They had the polio sugar cube. No one argued over it we all went to the fairground walked up in a building & took our sugar cube with the polio vaccine in it.

Even before that, we went to a clinic where we got the other shot that left a nice ring on your arm forever. I forget what that was for but no one argued over it. Course there was no news media talking about it & also the government kept out of it. No mandates or anything. People went willingly.
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Probably small pox. I saw some people with that starburst scar when I was a kid. I'm glad I never got a scar from it.
 
Irwin said:
If you were offered $1,000 to get vaccinated, would you?
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No amount of money would convince me to get vaccinated. On the other hand, saving my life - priceless. So I was vaccinated in the first tranche, as soon as I could get an appointment. And as soon as boosters were available, I signed up and have now had 3 jabs. I have too much to live for, too many places to go, people to see, dogs to save. And if I have to wait for another year to do all that, so be it. I told a friend at the beginning of this that if I have to give up a couple of years of "living" in order to live for many more it's an easy trade off.
 
chic said:
Probably small pox. I saw some people with that starburst scar when I was a kid. I'm glad I never got a scar from it.
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Yes, that was the one.
I remember when I went into the army we stripped down to our BVDs & walked this line & got shots in both arms. No one told us what they were but we had to have them in case we went to another country. I was lucky I never got sick other than sore arms. Others had to go to the infirmary for a while they were so sick.
 
Tom 86 said:
Yes, that was the one.
I remember when I went into the army we stripped down to our BVDs & walked this line & got shots in both arms. No one told us what they were but we had to have them in case we went to another country. I was lucky I never got sick other than sore arms. Others had to go to the infirmary for a while they were so sick.
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My dad said the same when he enlisted in WWII
 
Tom 86 said:
Yes, that was the one.
I remember when I went into the army we stripped down to our BVDs & walked this line & got shots in both arms. No one told us what they were but we had to have them in case we went to another country. I was lucky I never got sick other than sore arms. Others had to go to the infirmary for a while they were so sick.
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And the several vaccines given to Gulf War veterans is a highly-suspected cause of "Gulf War Syndrome" which destroyed many lives of returning GI's.
 
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