Are you a Christian and do you believe the Bible is the word of God?

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Shero said:
1. Have you ever killed a chicken? Then you have killed. Jesus never killed an animal.

2. Have you never called God's name in vain?

3. Do you do any work on the Sabbath? Saturday for Jews and Sunday for Christians.

4. Do you keep the Sabbath holy? Do you go to church on Sundays?

I could go on but I am packing for our holiday.
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1. No
the butcher does a better job

2. Never in vain, always great results

3. I'm retired

4. Seriously....I found it quite a delight to enjoy the holiness of a sabbath
I've worked seven days a week most all my life
Got more done in six than seven when taking one for rest

Enjoy yer trip, kid
 

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Shero said:
why do Christians stil adhere to the Ten Commandments if they discard the Old Testament ( as said by Lara).
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I never said "I discard the Old Testament". I said the Mosaic Laws...(about 600 of them regarding what we should wear and what we should eat etc. were given to the Israelites for a specific reason)...are not meant for us today.

When Jesus came, the Mosaic Laws were not necessary because we are now under the Law of Christ which is basically Love God and Love your Neighbor. If we do these 2 things we are following the the Ten Commandments. Here's clarity of this in a 2 minute video...

 

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Another point I would like to make.....in the Greek pantheon of gods, their leader was named Jupiter, or Jove. To my ear, the name 'Jove' is very similar to Jehovah.
There are many questions I need answering....where did the idea of animal sacrifice come from, what purpose does it serve? I know that the Jews believed that sins could be transferred to an animal, and if the animal was then killed, the sins were eradicated. This is where the idea of Jesus being the sacrificial lamb comes from.
fancicoffee13 said:
True, we are to discern between good and bad teachings. Even among beliefs. What is real and what is of mankind. Your eternal home after life will depend on it.
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You make it sound as though we can pick and choose...discard the bits that don't suit us. Is any religion supposed to be like that?
 
You people do realize YHWH is my name and I am a jealous god? I don't change. I am the one holding everything together. I turn away and you are dust particles. Just letting you know. I AM still here.. Don't use it in vain by the way. My name I mean. Gah! You people, you have to have every...little...detail explained to you.
---Sincerely,
YHWH
 
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Jesus’ name in Hebrew was “Yeshua”. The letter “J” did not exist at the time of Jesus. So his name is Yeshua. The name Jesus, is only about 500 years old!

Jesus’ purpose was to educate the Jews. He confirmed the Jewish law forbidding idolatry and blasphemy. The Code of Jewish Law clearly states that a child of a Jewish mother is Jewish, regardless of the father’s lineage.

To Christians, Jesus was the Messiah – this is a Jewish concept ! The coming of a Messiah had been foretold in Jewish scripture for centuries. Long before the birth of Christianity.

Messiah does not mean son of God. the word simply means "anointed one". Christ is not the last name of Jesus …it simply means “anointed one.”
The Jews say “Messiah” … the Christians say “Christ”. They mean the same thing, but the Jews got theirs in first!

Jesus was born, lived, died, taught as a Jew. He taught the Mosaic Laws. Judaism and Christianity are so intertwined, you cannot separate the Old Testament from the New Testament. You cannot cherry pick!! You have to take the rough with the smooth!
Islam copied from Judaism and Christianity. These three religions are very similar.

Yeshua (Jesus) was Jewish until the day he died. He followed all the Jewish customs. He taught Jewish law.

The Last Supper was indeed a Jewish Passover Seder.

So if Jesus is God (according to Christians), then a lot of evidence points to the fact that God is Jewish???

I leave this with you….off to get some sleep, taking up my duties as First Mate early tomorrow.

Shalom!
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Lara said:
I never said "I discard the Old Testament". I said the Mosaic Laws...(of which there are more than 600 about what we should wear and what we should eat etc. and given to the Israelites for a specific reason)...are not meant for us today.

When Jesus came, the Mosaic Laws were not necessary because we are now under the Law of Christ which is basically Love God and Love your Neighbor. If we do these 2 things we are following the the Ten Commandments. Here's clarity of this in a 2 minute video...

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Christians who take the Bible literally use this as their proof that draconian laws are still kept...

Matthew 5:17-20

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
 
dseag2 said:
Sorry to disagree with you, but I don't think the fact that I am gay is an abomination in any way. How would you feel if I called you an abomination to God? What a disgusting and non-Christian thing to say.

I did not choose to be this way, and God doesn't make mistakes. I don't think my decisions were "bad and senseless". I'm glad your religion is something that gives you satisfaction and hope, but don't try to denigrate my lifestyle. I have a 30-year relationship, which is more than I can say for many "Christians", and I treat others with respect. I grew up with enough criticism of my lifestyle. I don't need yours. (n)
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Bear in mind, though, that the types of remarks you referred to commonly come from today's "Christians" who claim to know everything about the Old Testament.
Logically, the initial goal of 'replenishing the earth,' which was the sole reason for the mentions against homosexuality, is not an issue in the modern era.
The GOD I believe in loves you- glad yours does, too, or perhaps it's the same one. :)
 
I soured on organized religion when I realized that I'd never come across any religion, church, or family of faith that truly believed (nevermind practiced) what they preached. Let's not forget that the KKK proclaims itself to be Christian.

Lots of uplifting chatter on Sunday, lots of ugliness through the week. Plenty of pulpit preaching about sharing with the poor while begging, manipulating and guilting people barely scraping to reach ever-deeper into their wallets. Repeatedly quoting passages about loving one's neighbor but quickly separating off into the same gossipy cliques during coffee fellowship. Pastors included.

There's plenty of historical information showing Christmas, Easter and other Christian holidays are rooted in old pagan religions, rites and celebrations. Can't comment on other modern world religions.

Like others here, I believe in a Creator, but am not sure about anything beyond that. I sure don't believe for a moment that it tunes into our every thought (or deed), or is ready to pounce and eternally damn those it deems unworthy whatever comes next.

I believe whatever comes after death comes for us all, whether that's nothing at all or some sort of grand communion. I lean toward the latter but recognize that it may be wishful thinking.
 
the idea that some power... much more powerful for us to understand... set all this in motion works for me. "religion" is pure faith... something, that if you think you can PROVE it... you're doing it wrong. if you believe something and have faith that it's the truth... that's religion, imo.

does a religion have some form of "golden rule" and "10 commandments" (actual number doesn't matter)? is it WRONG to kill, steal, lie, etc? those are pretty universal tenents.

not sure about heaven, but think the NOW is not the end.
 
Lavinia said:
Another point I would like to make.....in the Greek pantheon of gods, their leader was named Jupiter, or Jove. To my ear, the name 'Jove' is very similar to Jehovah.
There are many questions I need answering....where did the idea of animal sacrifice come from, what purpose does it serve? I know that the Jews believed that sins could be transferred to an animal, and if the animal was then killed, the sins were eradicated. This is where the idea of Jesus being the sacrificial lamb comes from.

You make it sound as though we can pick and choose...discard the bits that don't suit us. Is any religion supposed to be like that?
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Everyone has the ability to choose anything, beliefs, jobs, partners, etc. But choosing what to believe in is very important. And yes, saying no to some things is our choice as well. I don't know about other religions, but Christianity is saying no to other gods and yes to God. Being faithful and obedient, knowing about forgiveness.
 
dseag2 said:
Sorry to disagree with you, but I don't think the fact that I am gay is an abomination in any way. How would you feel if I called you an abomination to God? What a disgusting and non-Christian thing to say.

I did not choose to be this way, and God doesn't make mistakes. I don't think my decisions were "bad and senseless". I'm glad your religion is something that gives you satisfaction and hope, but don't try to denigrate my lifestyle. I have a 30-year relationship, which is more than I can say for many "Christians", and I treat others with respect. I grew up with enough criticism of my lifestyle. I don't need yours. (n)
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I was just answering a question, you are not an abomination by any means. Sorry I mislead you.
 
Serenity4321 said:
I can not accept anything as being unforgivable.. God is all forgiving and no matter how long it takes I believe we get chance after chance to get it right. I am not too enthusiastic about reincarnation but it kind of does make sense and seems 'fair' but who knows....
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I know it is hard to conceive some things. And I do like second chances whenever I can get one. But, reincarnation, that is far fetched and (I think) a figment of man's imagination.
 
Capt Lightning said:
Wow that's just great. What sort of god creates people "bad" and then insists that they worship 'him' so that they get a ticket to heaven?
That's like running a protection racket. Not only does this god create 'bad' people but just to rub it in, some are born with terrible illnesses or deformities. If there was a god (which I don't believe there is) the one you describe is not the sort I'd want to know.

So answer to the original question ... NO and NO.
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No matter what deformities or diseases people get, they are ALL beautiful and in God's eyes a creation of wonder and beauty. And as far as good and bad people, they all have a choice to make, to love God and do right or not. And in no way are you to believe in God to "get a ticket to heaven"! You chose to believe in God and accept His son as your Savior because He first loved you.
 
fancicoffee13 said:
I know it is hard to conceive some things. And I do like second chances whenever I can get one. But, reincarnation, that is far fetched and (I think) a figment of man's imagination.
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about reincarnation.....a figment ?

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According to the advocates of this belief, Elijah is the witness of the first coming of Christ, Elijah reincarnated as John the Baptist and Enoch is the witness of the second coming, that is to say Enoch would return as a higher reincarnation (controlled reincarnation) before the second coming of Christ

....so according to the scribes it is entirely possible
 
No more far fetched than virgin birth, or an old man in the sky who allows, nay, demands the murder of his own son. Pick your poison. In the end if it gets you through the day, good for you. Just don't try to cram it down others throats. Seems I recall "judge not, lest ye be judged". That seems to be one so called Christians easily lay aside. Mike

fancicoffee13 said:
I know it is hard to conceive some things. And I do like second chances whenever I can get one. But, reincarnation, that is far fetched and (I think) a figment of man's imagination.
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Mizmo said:
about reincarnation.....a figment ?

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According to the advocates of this belief, Elijah is the witness of the first coming of Christ, Elijah reincarnated as John the Baptist and Enoch is the witness of the second coming, that is to say Enoch would return as a higher reincarnation (controlled reincarnation) before the second coming of Christ

....so according to the scribes it is entirely possible
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Where is that found in what Bible?
 
Mizmo said:
about reincarnation.....a figment ?

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According to the advocates of this belief, Elijah is the witness of the first coming of Christ, Elijah reincarnated as John the Baptist and Enoch is the witness of the second coming, that is to say Enoch would return as a higher reincarnation (controlled reincarnation) before the second coming of Christ

....so according to the scribes it is entirely possible
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Reincarnation is not found in the Bible.
 
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