Are you a Christian and do you believe the Bible is the word of God?

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In the garden of Eden....... there were limits put on those two people and when they lived by those limits life was grand. But, when they did not live by those limits they were banished from that lovely garden. The Bible back then was the direct relationship between man and God.

I have to admire your tenacity in holding on to your beliefs.
As I said in an earlier post I believe we evolved from the sea wherever that was way back then ( I'm not smart enough to know) and I also said we did start off life in mummy's tummy in a sac of water ......
Little tadpoles we were eh! and oh how we evolve...
Just my tuppence worth again.
 
I have to admire your tenacity in holding on to your beliefs.
As I said in an earlier post I believe we evolved from the sea wherever that was way back then ( I'm not smart enough to know) and I also said we did start off life in mummy's tummy in a sac of water ......
Little tadpoles we were eh! and oh how we evolve...
Just my tuppence worth again.
But how did the life that you believe we evolved from get into the sea in the first place???
 
But how did the life that you believe we evolved from get into the sea in the first place???

Like I said...I am not smart enough to know.
Perhaps when the ice age melted and all the wooly mammoths were gone...maybe they left something behind...who knows.
I don't for sure.
In my next life I will be sure to check all this ancient stuff out before I come back and tell the world !

right now I am off for a cup of coffee
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Like I said...I am not smart enough to know.
Perhaps when the ice age melted and all the wooly mammoths were gone...maybe they left something behind...who knows.
I don't for sure.
In my next life I will be sure to check all this ancient stuff out before I come back and tell the world !

right now I am off for a cup of coffee
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But where did the wooly mammoths come from?

(enjoy your coffee!!) :)
 
God does exist.

Yes, I belive God does exist.
However my God is far different to yours. My God does not abominate any of his creations.

He loves everything and everyone He created.
That is why He created them!

One of the main reasons I do not follow religious dogma, is because it is all man made and not by some of the nice people, but those who are poor in spirit, they cannot see straight!!
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In the garden of Eden....... there were limits put on those two people and when they lived by those limits life was grand. But, when they did not live by those limits they were banished from that lovely garden. The Bible back then was the direct relationship between man and God.
I have a Masters in Anthropology and Archaeology. I have travelled to where the Garden of Eden is supposed to have been.To many who have studied this: the Gadren of Eden was in Botswana.
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The Bible is a collection of Christian texts that is the result of refinement by men who thought they were led by God to discern his teachings.

Jesus never wrote a word. He could not read nor write and even if he did it woud be all in Aramaic, the language he spoke.

The Bible was written hundreds of years after Jesus, and in Latin and Greek, then translated into English and other languages. A lot was lost in translation.
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I don't know who Jesus is anymore. He is an idea in my mind but I can't worship that idea any longer. Many of my Christian friends have tried to bring me back to Jesus. I think , they think, that i have fallen from his grace, because I sinned too much now and have lost my way. After 30 years they still love me and probably still pray for me, so they are the one's who are hoping that I get right with God. I am afraid I am a lost cause. I am wondering if I fit in anywhere now.
I can't believe I missed your honest heartfelt stream of consciousness. I'm sorry for my delayed response, @Paco Dennis First let me say that I doubt your friends think you have "fallen from grace because you've sinned too much". In fact, sounds to me like your friends know it's entirely the opposite in God's eyes. YOU are the one He wants to come to Him because you are in need of a Savior. That's God's whole reason for the life and death of Jesus in the New Testament. So you are definitely not a lost cause.

Try dwelling in the New Testament, especially Ephesians, Galatians, and all the books that start with "T" (Timothy, Titus etc) so you can come to know the "good news". It's like you watched a disturbing movie and turned it off before seeing the happy ending. You will see more clearly God's full plan for you today. Don't miss the gospel of John. Then go back to the Old Testament and read Proverbs and then Psalms. You will find that you fit right in. There is no sin that's too much except one...and that is never asking forgiveness and believing in Him even until death. You've already admitted you're a sinner and in need of a Savior. That's half of it.

I use to teach this to non- believers emphasizing God's love and mercy. Jesus took all our sins away...on the cross. God is Love...if we feel far from God, guess who moved." After I went my own way, I began to smoke tobacco , and drink moderately/heavy, go to bars, have sex with whoever I wanted to, and never read the Bible or go to church. In the recent past my health has diminished a lot and I have been pondering if I have gone so far away from Jesus that I can't find my way back. I really don't think I can, so I have accepted my death and have no idea what happens after.
You haven't fallen as far away from Jesus as you think. The fact that you are pondering, is divine intervention according to my faith. I'm sure you've heard, "God hates the sin but loves the sinner." He doesn't want you to fight this battle alone.

It is the parable of the prodigal son. I understand this, but my home is no longer there where it use to be, and there is no forwarding address. I can't find "home" anywhere.
After asking for forgiveness, ask to be filled with the Holy Spirit. You will feel "a peace that passes all understanding" and a joy. That's when you'll "find home" as you say.
I can't accept the Bible as being the only book on earth that IS Gods words. So unless He rearranges me somehow I will die outside the beliefs that are in the Bible. My heart has hardened and there is no way back. I appreciate all the information about this from the members here. I am non-judgemental about what a person believes, and I guess I have my own beliefs somewhere, i just can't locate them.
Don't worry about not accepting the Bible as the only book on earth that is God's Word. After you ask forgiveness for your sins, ask to be filled with the Holy Spirit, and let go of what holds you. God will see to it that everything else will fall into place.
...The rules in the Old Testament get really weird, and nobody except fanatics keep those laws. So when do the commandments stop...or it was Moses's civil law
The 10 Commandments don't ever stop but the Mosaic Laws, the "weird laws" of the Old Testament stopped when Jesus came in the New Testament.
they slaughter goats and blood is all over their village on doors. What is clean about that? There seems to be a lot of juggling of Scripture to come up with any conclusions on many issues.
Don't worry about what's in the Old Testament. It's important to be aware of history but Jesus shed His blood for our sins in the New Testament and much changed after that.
 
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Ah but aren't Christians supposed to follow Jesus, rather than the old testament?
I gotta say here;

Jesus and his coming is interlaced throughout the Old Testament
From Genesis thru Malichi

Even the seeming ridiculous rigors of the priests, in the holy and most holy places in the temple, all pointed to The Christ and His intercession

There is so much in the 'old' testament pointing to Jesus. even paralleling His life, that, if properly studied, one will see Him.

I thought you guys studied your Bibles....not just read them....
 
Maybe you think it is insane, but it really, really is an abomination to God. However, there are a lot of choices we make that are so bad and senseless, and when we decide to make better choices our lives will be better.
Sorry to disagree with you, but I don't think the fact that I am gay is an abomination in any way. How would you feel if I called you an abomination to God? What a disgusting and non-Christian thing to say.

I did not choose to be this way, and God doesn't make mistakes. I don't think my decisions were "bad and senseless". I'm glad your religion is something that gives you satisfaction and hope, but don't try to denigrate my lifestyle. I have a 30-year relationship, which is more than I can say for many "Christians", and I treat others with respect. I grew up with enough criticism of my lifestyle. I don't need yours. (n)
 
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I was brought up with the Southern Baptist Church....lets just say I've lost faith in what that church teaches....I was going to say that I don't have any criticism of other's religion, but I do....and that is the fact that so many evangelicals but their faith in political figures that are anything but what a christian should be and they do untold damage to the country and the world...
I was brought up in the Southern Baptist Church as well, and as they would say... Amen!
 
I gotta say here;

Jesus and his coming is interlaced throughout the Old Testament
From Genesis thru Malichi

Even the seeming ridiculous rigors of the priests, in the holy and most holy places in the temple, all pointed to The Christ and His intercession

There is so much in the 'old' testament pointing to Jesus. even paralleling His life, that, if properly studied, one will see Him.

I thought you guys studied your Bibles....not just read them....

You may have to wait a long time for Jesus returnin babe!
Wish you luck anyway!
 
Interesting

Which ones are not possible?

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1. Have you ever killed a chicken? Then you have killed. Jesus never killed an animal.

2. Have you never called God's name in vain?

3. Do you do any work on the Sabbath? Saturday for Jews and Sunday for Christians.

4. Do you keep the Sabbath holy? Do you go to church on Sundays?

I could go on but I am packing for our holiday.

However, Moses appears in the Old Testament, why do Christians stil adhere to the Ten Commandments if they discard the Old Testament ( as said by Lara).

Got it on the grapevine, there is ample evidence that Moses never existed.

If you have questions to ask of me, hang on to them,will answer when I return from our vacation.
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