Are you a Christian and do you believe the Bible is the word of God?

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fancicoffee13 said:
No matter what deformities or diseases people get, they are ALL beautiful and in God's eyes a creation of wonder and beauty. And as far as good and bad people, they all have a choice to make, to love God and do right or not. And in no way are you to believe in God to "get a ticket to heaven"! You chose to believe in God and accept His son as your Savior because He first loved you.
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We're not talking about God's eyes. What about the misery that person suffers? What about the pain and anguish of the parents? Is that OK because the person is beautiful in God's eyes? Doesn't God care about all those who are affected? Doesn't sound like it.

I do not believe in a God and although I believe that there was a wandering preacher that we know as Jesus, he could not have been the son of a non existent god.
 
Capt Lightning said:
We're not talking about God's eyes. What about the misery that person suffers? What about the pain and anguish of the parents? Is that OK because the person is beautiful in God's eyes? Doesn't God care about all those who are affected? Doesn't sound like it.

I do not believe in a God and although I believe that there was a wandering preacher that we know as Jesus, he could not have been the son of a non existent god.
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I know what you're talking about. All the pain and suffering, God does care. Yes, He really cares. Not everyone is made perfect with no disabilities. Everyone has some disability of some sort. Some worse than others. I don't know why. But, I keep on praying, and believing for the healing. And there are times when prayers aren't answered the way I want. Believe me, that is troubling. But, I keep on believing, not giving up.
 
fancicoffee13 said:
Those names you gave are not the name of God, the one I am referring to.
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But they are names for gods that other people believe in, are they not?
Is the one you refer to THE god as asked by a previous poster?
And if so, what make your god more special than any others?

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Chris P Bacon said:
But they are names for gods that other people believe in, are they not?
Is the one you refer to THE god as asked by a previous poster?
And if so, what make your god more special than any others?Y

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Yes of course, they are names of other gods people believe in and the one I believe in is those two names. Period.
 
Capt Lightning said:
....What about the misery that person suffers?...Doesn't God care about all those who are affected? Doesn't sound like it.
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I wish I had a nickel for every time I've tried to answer this question.​

There are over 200 reason given in the Bible for why good people suffer and it's never enough to satisfy the inquisitive believer and non-believer because there is no single answer. Every answer comes with an explanation and each point raises further questions. It's complicated because ...the way God works is more complicated than we can ever comprehend. But I find the more I study it the more I begin to understand.​

Here are just a handful...

1. Suffering is the result of mankind’s sin and rebellion against God (Genesis 3).

2. Some suffer from their own natural consequences

3. People sometimes suffer from the wrong choices of other human beings, even though God uses the resulting suffering for good (Genesis 50:20).

4. Suffering brings faithful believers into deeper understanding and relationship with Him (Job).

5. Suffering teaches us empathy for others so we can reach out and help them better

6. Believers suffer as a testament of faith to others (Hebrews 11).

7. God allows people to suffer so they will turn to Him in repentance and not perish for eternity (Luke 13:1-4).

8. Christians suffer so they can be conformed more closely to the character of Christ (Romans 8:28-30, James 1:2-4).

9. Believers suffer so they can know Christ more fully as they lean on Him and trust him (Philippians 3:10).

10. To prepare followers of Christ for the glory of Heaven (2 Corinthians 4:17).
 
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palides2021 said:
I am an Orthodox Christian and-

  • Who for us men and for our salvation, He came down from heaven and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, and became Man.
AMEN
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The story goes God made heaven & earth. So given that as a belief the reality is God would have to be outside of heaven & earth.
My logic
If I were to make a box I couldn't be inside of the box to make it. The box would already exist.

What puzzles me most is why 2 centuries ago all that is supposed to be took place & the "sacrifice" failed miserably. Yet some cling to a belief that a omnipotent super being billions of years old has a plan for their lives.
 
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Knight said:
The story goes God made heaven & earth. So given that as a belief the reality is God would have to be outside of heaven & earth.
My logic
If I were to make a box I couldn't be inside of the box to make it. The box would already exist.
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But, God doesn't stay outside/above the earth and all His creation.
 
fancicoffee13 said:
God also says He will never leave us nor forsake us in Deut. 31:6. So, He must be right here amongst us.
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So it's possible Chis P Bacon is a God & he is posting here to test people. Also possible others questioning the bible might be angels doing testing while Chris P Bacon is busy devising plans for those yet to be born.
 
I think maybe we should stop picking on Fannie. I think we've made are point, and this discourse has accomplished as much as it can, and will end up like the proverbial dog chasing it's tail. I think this is why most bars, and many internet sites ban conversation about religion, and politics. Not saying it wasn't fun, but think I'm moving on to new frontiers, or at least posts. Cheers, Mike
 
Geezer Garage said:
I think maybe we should stop picking on Fannie. I think we've made are point, and this discourse has accomplished as much as it can, and will end up like the proverbial dog chasing it's tail. I think this is why most bars, and many internet sites ban conversation about religion, and politics. Not saying it wasn't fun, but think I'm moving on to new frontiers, or at least posts. Cheers, Mike
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Not so fast:LOL: @Geezer Garage...
 

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