The Trucker Convoy

There seems to be a bit of dancing around the issues here. The question is "were the mandates removed" ... not "were the mandates removed because of the trucker protests".

In either case, it appears that the answer is NO. Not yet, or soon-to-be removed, is still a no.
 

chic said:
Such as?
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I remember the Cuban missile crisis. I think that we are dangerously close to that same type of situation, because of a madman, and as a nation I'm not sure that we (or our government) comprehend that. And also such as the war in Ukraine itself, rampant inflation in our country, the divisiveness in our political system, climate change, and a whole host of other problems.
 
Devi said:
There seems to be a bit of dancing around the issues here. The question is "were the mandates removed" ... not "were the mandates removed because of the trucker protests".

In either case, it appears that the answer is NO. Not yet, or soon-to-be removed, is still a no.
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I don’t consider my answer as ‘dancing around’. I tried to give you an explanation of the situation. Bit by bit mandates are being removed by provinces, as they see fit.

Jules said:
The mandates still exist for trucking between Canada & the US, both directions. As Covid numbers improve the restrictions are being lifted for travel. Many provinces have started to removed mask mandates except in health facilities.

To answer your question, nothing changed to the mandates because of the convoys.
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Remy said:
I'm sure they got hyped up and encouraged by certain places on the internet and even the TV. I agree with others here regarding the absolute waste it caused.
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At first I believed they were naive to think world leaders would negotiate with them and that the whole thing was a waste of time. But it sparked unity in other countries. England, Ireland, Israel, France. Italy, Greece, Slovakia, Poland and even Australia held similar truckers convoys and I noticed the mandates across Western Europe began to drop and even in a few of the Canadian provinces. So, I do think the convoy accomplished something important. It brought awareness to a problem that was being ignored.
 
Devi said:
So, people protesting what they feel is unjust are considered "domestic terrorists" in Canada? Wow.
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Not at all, but advocating the seditious overthrow of our elected federal government is considered to be such, as is inciting violence toward frontline healthcare workers, and terrorising local residents, particularly people of colour. Sadly, these were some of the individuals involved. Their agenda had nothing to do with mandates.
 
SeaBreeze said:
I felt bad for the people of Canada, these fools were loud and disruptive, they should have all been arrested and their trucks impounded. It's freedom of choice, if the vaccination is mandated for over the road truckers, then they can put on their big boy pants and take the vaccine, or park their truck in a lot an pout....their choice.

I worked for years, part of my job was loading and unloading semi trucks with a forklift, daily contact with numerous drivers from throughout the US and Canada. Back then there was no deadly pandemic to deal with, but if there was, I sure as hell would want those drivers vaxxed and masked if I had to have any contact with them. The convoy "rebels" are just selfish, childish cowards.
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Yes, and ninety percent of truckers were already vaxxed, and the trucker’s unions did not support this protest.
 
Shalimar said:
Yes, and ninety percent of truckers were already vaxxed, and the trucker’s unions did not support this protest.
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I know, I heard all that on the news. But the wannabe 'rebels' have to get with their buddies and complain about any requests to stop a deadly virus from spreading. Since they don't consume any actual news that is based in reality, they are in their own little world. They likely just want friends in their life, and their mentality calls for 'rebels' against the gubmint. 🤡
 
Shalimar said:
Not at all, but advocating the seditious overthrow of our elected federal government is considered to be such, as is inciting violence toward frontline healthcare workers, and terrorising local residents, particularly people of colour. Sadly, these were some of the individuals involved. Their agenda had nothing to do with mandates.
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I do not recall reading anything saying they wanted to overthrow the government. But that was apparently the excuse used against them. Quite a spin on things.
 
Devi said:
I do not recall reading anything saying they wanted to overthrow the government. But that was apparently the excuse used against them. Quite a spin on things.
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Hmm. Interesting. Our news coverage included live comments made by such people. Some of these individuals had openly approached our opposition parties in an attempt to garner their support. This is well documented. Facts, not spin.
 
Shalimar said:
Not at all, but advocating the seditious overthrow of our elected federal government is considered to be such, as is inciting violence toward frontline healthcare workers, and terrorising local residents, particularly people of colour. Sadly, these were some of the individuals involved. Their agenda had nothing to do with mandates.
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It had everything to do with mandates. I listened to their spokesman who was not a trucker at all but a software engineer fired for refusing vaccination. They never said they wanted to overthrow their government. They wanted to negotiate with their leaders wherein I believe they were very naive. In no way were they domestic terrorists. I agree the honking and noise must have annoying, the other slurs against them were falsely made and who gets the truth of all you can listen to is the CBC?
 
chic said:
It had everything to do with mandates. I listened to their spokesman who was not a trucker at all but a software engineer fired for refusing vaccination. They never said they wanted to overthrow their government. They wanted to negotiate with their leaders wherein I believe they were very naive. In no way were they domestic terrorists. I agree the honking and noise must have annoying, the other slurs against them were falsely made and who gets the truth of all you can listen to is the CBC?
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We have many news outlets in my country, why would I be constrained to listen to only one? Frankly, I watched the news rather than listened to it. This software engineer was but one of

many people purporting to speak for the convoy. You may base your opinions on the words of one individual, but I prefer a more balanced view, acquired from many sources. I saw

people being interviewed who openly admitted they advocated the overthrow of our current government. They admitted they hated our Prime Minister and wanted him gone. Fine, next

election, vote him out. Sedition is not acceptable in Canada. I also saw Confederate flags flying, and white supremacists spouting hateful rhetoric. Right wing extremists rarely seen in

the Land of the Maple Leaf. Some had definitive American accents. I find it rather amazing that you seem to believe we Canadians are unaware of what goes on in our own country. But then, in the

past, you have stated Canada is a terrible country, with eroding social freedoms, almost a dictatorship, so it is logical to assume you don’t think much of the way we do things.
 
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Shalimar said:
We have many news outlets in my country, why would I be constrained to listen to only one? Frankly, I watched the news rather than listened to it. This software engineer was but one of

many people purporting to speak for the convoy. You may base your opinions on the words of one individual, but I prefer a more balanced view, acquired from many sources. I saw

people being interviewed who openly admitted they advocated the overthrow of our current government. They admitted they hated our Prime Minister and wanted him gone. Fine, next

election, vote him out. Sedition is not acceptable in Canada. I also saw Confederate flags flying, and white supremacists spouting hateful rhetoric. Right wing extremists rarely seen in

the Land of the Maple Leaf. Some had definitive American accents. I find it rather amazing that you seem to believe we Canadians are unaware of what goes on in our own country. But then, in the

past, you have stated Canada is a terrible country, with eroding social freedoms, almost a dictatorship, so it is logical to assume you don’t think much of the way we do things.
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I think you're mistaken. I never said Canada was a terrible country. The WEATHER there can be terrible in the winter. Summer there is quite lovely. I get my news from independent news journalists. No main stream media at all. You are free to believe what you choose to believe.
 
Mandates are bad! They help to keep us healthy, by preventing us from gathering in crowded places and spreading a fatal disease to each other, so we've gotta stop those mandates! Down with mandates! Hooray for covid! Let's bring back the good old days of 2020!

Clearly, we should rely on a convoy of honking truckers to make our medical decisions for us.
 
Sunny said:
Mandates are bad! They help to keep us healthy, by preventing us from gathering in crowded places and spreading a fatal disease to each other, so we've gotta stop those mandates! Down with mandates! Hooray for covid! Let's bring back the good old days of 2020!

Clearly, we should rely on a convoy of honking truckers to make our medical decisions for us.
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The verdict is, once again, in: Masking in schools is effective.

Mandatory masking lowered transmission rates to nearly one-fourth those of schools where masks were optional, data from over 1 million children show.

During the COVID-19 pandemic’s delta variant wave, schools that required masking had approximately one-fourth the rates of in-school coronavirus transmission than schools with optional or partial masking policies, researchers report online March 9 in Pediatrics.

While the findings reinforce past research on masking efficacy, this is the first study to focus on secondary transmissions, or transmissions that happen at school, and how the rate is impacted by vaccination, community spread and district size, says study coauthor Danny Benjamin, an epidemiologist at Duke University. The team found that schools play a small role in terms of transmission in a community, accounting for less than 10 percent of total cases in the study. But masks are what help keep that number low.

To conduct a wide-reaching study, the researchers reached out to every kindergarten through 12th grade public school district in the United States — more than 13,800 of them — to track their case numbers and origins from July to December 2021. The 61 districts that answered the call consisted of more than 1 million students and nearly 160,000 staff across nine states.
 
The original Truckers Convoy was to protest the vaccine mandate. Not masking. Then every yahoo who was against masking started following and joining in and protested against vaccination and masks.

The truckers were against the vaccine mandate ONLY. Truck drivers have very little contact with people, they had no problem with masks and social distancing. There was no need to be vaccinated if they chose not to be, but they were going to be fired if not vaccinated. They drove trucks during the worst of the pandemic delivering needed supplies, drive, stop and mask up get coffee something to eat gas up and drive again, they were good enough then and should have been good enough without being forced to be vaccinated in order to keep their jobs. That's why they protested. It had nothing to do with masks. I have followed their protest, knew about it months before the public did. It got bad press due to the outside influence of others protesting their own causes and others being disrespectful and causing damage.
 
The vaccine requirement was only for truckers crossing the international border from the US. The US also required it for entry into the US. The majority of the truckers are vaccinated and were against the convoy.
 
Jules said:
The vaccine requirement was only for truckers crossing the international border from the US. The US also required it for entry into the US. The majority of the truckers are vaccinated and were against the convoy.
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"If the crybaby grievance truckers are looking for traffic to block, I hear there’s a convoy of tanks trying to get into Kyiv": Jeff Tiedrich
 
Jules said:
The vaccine requirement was only for truckers crossing the international border from the US. The US also required it for entry into the US. The majority of the truckers are vaccinated and were against the convoy.
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The Canadian truckers are protesting ALL vaccine mandates. Their spokesman was not a trucker but a software engineer fired for refusing the jab. I don't believe losing the ability to feed and house your family is "crybaby" stuff. We've seen people from all over the world threatened with job loss for refusing the vaccine. Having no job and no money is a valid concern.
 
spectratg said:
Yes but those are pretty much gone too. The country has moved on and more or less accepted (for good or bad) Covid-19 as an unfortunate aspect of life. The point is, these guys and girls need to go home and stop wasting all of that gasoline!
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Not true, the "Forth" vaccine booster and requirement to take it are in the works....!

"U.S. officials have been laying the groundwork to deliver additional booster doses to shore up the vaccines’ protection against serious disease and death from Covid-19. The White House has been sounding the alarm that it needs Congress to “urgently” approve more funding for the federal government to secure more doses of the Covid-19 vaccines, either for additional booster shots or variant-specific immunizations."
 
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