Spellcasting

WheatenLover said:
Let's say that you cast a spell to abolish a bad thing, but whether the thing is bad is a matter of your perception.
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Yes, I agree. In our world of hate and wars and corruption we need to fight for our principles or cast spells.
 

Casting spells is witchcraft. Witchcraft is in the realm of Satan (devil). Why is it so easy for someone to believe in Satan and so difficult to believe in God? Both are unseen. Satan is about evil, God is about good.

God and Satan both want it to be your choice. But neither choice is, by no means, laughable (ie laughing emoji below). It's not just me saying this. It's obvious to ALL of us that there is good and evil in the world. No laughing matter. There are natural consequences and the stakes are high.
 
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Lawrence said:
No, it does not. For in this evil and corrupt world we live it is a way to help us cope with the evil without directly being involved. It can be viewed as a form of stress reduction.
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Serenity4321 said:
Do you mean casting a spell to remove something bad? I think rather than emphasizing anything bad or negative, a positive attitude should be 'cast'
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I agree with Serenity. Spell casting has no validity whatsoever, but seems to me it would keep a person very focused on what they hate or don't want, and that isn't a healthy way to cope.
 
Lara said:
Casting spells
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You have used terms relating to religions. I have not done so. There are so many religions in our world. I am dealing with spiritual forces. What is good and what is bad? What is positive and what is negative? The cosmic matter of the universe is not set and constant. The laws of physics constantly change. With our thoughts and concentration, we can mold the physics into what we would like to have. Change happens, evolution happens, tornados come and destroy old buildings then new buildings are built. Death the Reaper comes and takes out the old. The Star comes and brings the new. We live, die and then exits in a spiritual existence.
 
Murrmurr said:
I agree with Serenity. Spell casting has no validity whatsoever, but seems to me it would keep a person very focused on what they hate or don't want, and that isn't a healthy way to cope.
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Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm. If your chair breaks you fix it. If your car breaks down, you fix it. We don't like to be interrupted so we dislike things. We fix things...sometimes by thinking/imagining solutions...sometimes they can only be expressed in myth and mystery.
 
Lawrence said:
You have used terms relating to religions. I have not done so. There are so many religions in our world. I am dealing with spiritual forces. What is good and what is bad? What is positive and what is negative? The cosmic matter of the universe is not set and constant. The laws of physics constantly change. With our thoughts and concentration, we can mold the physics into what we would like to have. Change happens, evolution happens, tornados come and destroy old buildings then new buildings are built. Death the Reaper comes and takes out the old. The Star comes and brings the new. We live, die and then exits in a spiritual existence.
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A true Aquarian!
 
WheatenLover said:
Speaking of fishing, when I was a kid, I caught an alligator. It was in Pippin Lake, in Florida. My mom said no way an alligator would be in the lake.
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I would not bet on any lake in Florida never having alligators. Even small ones, alligators will crawl overland at night moving from lake to lake. I have encountered a few doing that, can be startling. I have used a heavy rod and treble hook to catch gators, but never caught one unintentionally.
 
Lawrence said:
Is casting a bad spell to abolish something bad a good thing to do?
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The general advice from the world's major religions...is that all casting of spells is unwise and not recommended.

What the world's major religions say to do instead, is to pray about these issues. That leaves the issue in God's Hands, as opposed to our personal will.

In Wicca and other practices which do use spells, there is also a wide range of cautions given.


Also, in terms of personal achievement, many of the world's major religions use affirmations. In a sense, like a personal pep talk, but more focused.

Almost all top professional athletes use some form of affirmation, even if they don't call it by that name.

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I have been around people who engaged with spells. I definitely could feel some effects from what they were doing. But it is forced, artificial. When people pray for you, it is gentle and natural. And, actually, far more powerful. Feels right.

Johns Hopkins did a study of cardiac patients. There was a control group who were not prayed for...and there was the active group that was prayed for.

The cardiac patients that were prayed for showed much more improvement than the control group. And this was a fully professional scientific study. I think it was done in the early 90s. And hardly the only study that indicated these types of things.
 
helenbacque said:
Is there a difference between a spell and a prayer other than to whom it is addressed? Asking for a friend.
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Yes, a spell is an incantation of words, relying in a sense, on the "spiritual science" of how things work. A prayer is not personally manipulating the underlying spiritual forces in the world, it is asking God to do the work however He sees fit.
 
WheatenLover said:
Can you cast one that works objectively IRL? Like one for washing the dishes, so they get done without human intervention? I don't have a dishwasher.

I've always thought that if spells worked, they would work on household chores (like in Bewitched). Or on tying up burglars. Or on giving a person the perfect thing to wear. Or on trying out new hairstyles without have to commit to one right off the bat. Or on lifting the 89 year curse the Red Sox were under, way before the 89 years was up. Heck, what about big issues, like ending homelessness or deterring Russia? Feeding starving children? Getting rid of someone's evil power (but that might not fall into white witchcraft, which I would only practice, if I practiced.

I am not making fun of you. I think spellwork can help set and firmly internalize an intent. It's just a theory, but enough people practice it that that's the opinion I've come up with. Who knows? Certainly not I. But I still want a spell that will get my housework done without people and without scaring my dog. Hope springs eternal.
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This kind of rhetorical construction seems valid, but it is out of context. This is an idea, that casting a spell or engaging in some spiritual act is some kind of simplistic, black and white experience.

Law enforcement agencies have been using psychics for decades. And long before that, all the royal courts had a psychic working for them.

But it is not like switching a light on. The psychics get impressions. And it is hard to get those impressions. And then they have to interpret them.

So, there is a skill level to it and an art to it.


When you are talking about the ability to receive a psychic message, that is one thing. Actually manipulating a physical object is an entirely different thing, requiring an enormous amount of power.

It is like the difference between doing 3 push ups and doing 30,000 in a single session.

There have been very rare people who have been able to do those things, but they are very rare.


While Mahatma Gandhi did not do that, he did have an appendectomy, without anesthetic, remained conscious the entire time and talking and joking with some friends. He did have that level of enormous power...but doing dishes or something? That would be many many times even that level of power.

And that is why, miracles by Christ and other great saints are rare. And because they are rare, people generally don't believe they exist.

If you get deeply into the practice of meditation or say, prayer at a monastic level, you will encounter some of these forces that people generally call "supernatural."

And when you encounter the tiniest tip of the iceberg, you do get a sense of what potential can lie under the surface.

So, for example, when in good physical shape, in high school, I could only manage, about 15 pull ups in a session. 20 years later, overweight and not exercising much at all, with some meditation concentration, I was able to do about 3 pull ups with just two fingers of one hand. Now, rock climbers can do things like that...but I was in no shape like that...at all.

Just used these internal concentration abilities. And when you see that work, you start to understand how people with much greater capacity can do incredible things.
 
Lawrence said:
Good spell to cast. I am working on it. Sending the Devil into oblivion, shredding the Devil into nonexistence, the bad energy of the Devil is being destroyed.
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St. Michael, the Archangel, be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the Devil and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the power of God, thrust in hell, Satan and the other evil spirits, who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls...

(standard Catholic prayer)

(you do have to be careful, because every time you pray this prayer, 10 lawyers and 5 politicians collapse and die immediately)

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