Elementary School Shooting in Uvalde Texas

Bretrick said:
I was listening to the Republicans talk about gun laws and what would happen if they decided to consider stricter gun laws.
They all said the same thing.
"If I done that, I would lose my seat"
So it seems that they would rather keep their seat instead of considering stricter gun laws.
How would something like this work? Those incumbent Republicans walk away from the Party. Only to be replaced by other candidates willing to keep the status quo, ie; the availability of semi automatic rifles for the majority of the population.
No way out of this. 🤷‍♂️
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Unfortunately it's the same the world over when it comes to issues affecting the masses.. one individual gets to decide what's good for everyone ...all wrong...
 
Now has to be the time for a total gun review... this can't
Pepper said:
Violence is as American as cherry pie--H.Rap Brown, 1967 and still as true today as when he said it.
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this is actually a shock, if Violence was so prevalent way back over 50 years ago... why hasn't it been addressed... rhetorical question obvs..
 
Okay, so this morning while watching the World News Tonight report which showed pictures and told a little about each child, I couldn't hold back the tears. To think that their chlldren were being honored one hour and gone the next...it's just unfathomable. It's further angering to find out how long the police response (not presence) really was. Those little angels were so cute, smart and by all accounts great children. I am keeping the families in prayer.

Then to find out husband of one of the teachers died of a heart attack. His family said he (literally) died of a broken heart. He and his wife were to celebrate their 25th wedding anniversary this weekend. That family must be totally devastated.
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@Pepper H. Rap Brown spoke the truth. It's a truth no one wants to hear, especially from a Black man they labeled a militant !
 
hollydolly said:
Now has to be the time for a total gun review... this can't

this is actually a shock, if Violence was so prevalent way back over 50 years ago... why hasn't it been addressed... rhetorical question obvs..
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The question won't be addressed and I cannot tell you why, due to the restrictions of this forum. I will say it will continue to worsen as it is becoming a crime in some states to even talk about it. Newspeak here we come, lest we offend the sensitive feelings of those who refuse to see.
 
Tish said:
I am not disputing your right to bear arms, I am just saying that some of you do not have the mental capacity to own a weapon responsibly.
That is very evident in all the mass shootings you have.
A Phycological evaluation before owning a weapon should be part of the application!
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OK, actually I agree with you , have some reservations about the phyco test ... [much of that is opinion] IMO, but performed correctly ? Again I would agree.

Thanks for the reply.
 
Nathan said:
Felons are already monitored, and to my knowledge are barred from owning firearms.

Most all of these school shootings are done by children, no hard core felons storming in and murdering 4th graders. Young boys / men are poorly socialized, in my opinion. They need to know how to feel masculine without having the power of killing people at their finger tips.

Anyone familiar with the video games that [mostly boys, some girls] are playing? Well, they all involve blasting other players with all kinds of weapons. What do you think? https://www.ign.com/articles/the-best-100-video-games-of-all-time
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I have to agree that I am not hip to today’s video games, other than what I read about. I have been told that many of these games do have violence in them. I have a good friend in law enforcement and he once told me that some kids have a problem differentiating between reality and make believe. I can believe that because I’m not so old that I don’t remember back when I was a young boy and would fantasize about being a cowboy, cop or a fireman.
 
win231 said:
Exactly why so many people are gun owners.
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Since the NRA Convention starts here today, I'm sure the world will be watching. ... Should be a spectacle!

I'm glad that I live about 35 miles from downtown Houston, and that all of my family is out of town for the long weekend.
Wouldn't want to be anywhere near that mess that is about to take place..
 
OneEyedDiva said:
Okay, so this morning while watching the World News Tonight report which showed pictures and told a little about each child, I couldn't hold back the tears. To think that their chlldren were being honored one hour and gone the next...it's just unfathomable. It's further angering to find out how long the police response (not presence) really was. Those little angels were so cute, smart and by all accounts great children. I am keeping the families in prayer.

Then to find out husband of one of the teachers died of a heart attack. His family said he (literally) died of a broken heart. He and his wife were to celebrate their 25th wedding anniversary this weekend. That family must be totally devastated.
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@Pepper H. Rap Brown spoke the truth. It's a truth no one wants to hear, especially from a Black man they labeled a militant !
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yes, I agree... there's no way that poor man didn't die of a heart attack... just hours before while laying flowers for his wife at the scene he looked like a big strapping fit guy.. albeit shattered by what had just happened. I posted a Video, you can see for yourself... and the pain he was going through was obviously just too much for that big heart and he joined his wife just hours after she passed... :cry:

Scroll here for the video showing Mr Joe Garcia... laying flowers hours before he died...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-laying-flowers-memorial-just-hours-died.html
 
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Hope they don't let up!


Students and youth organizers with the March for Our Lives gun control movement are planning nationwide protests following the Texas elementary school shooting, including a march on Washington, D.C., on June 11.

Organizers and activists also plan to meet with lawmakers in the Capitol from June 7 to June 10 to push for universal background checks, according to the group’s website.

“Our message and ask is simple: no longer will we be held hostage by our lawmakers and no longer will we tolerate feeling unsafe in our communities,” the group wrote on the website.

“Regardless of what party you stand for, if you do not support lifesaving measures like universal background checks, we will pledge to vote against you this fall and in future elections. “

March for Our Lives has several other protests planned around the country from San Francisco, Calif., to Greenville, S.C. There will also be a protest in front of the convention center where the National Rifle Association (NRA) is hosting a conference in Houston, Texas later this week, about 300 miles from the scene of the deadly shooting in Uvalde, Texas.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ng-nationwide-protests-march-on-dc/ar-AAXJMO3
 
From all I've heard and read, those Texas cops who refused to go in and stop the shooter before the lives of 19 innocent children and those two teachers were taken in cold blood have that blood on their hands. They had the armor and the weapons and they waited while the children died. Investigations should be done regarding their response and the contradictory BS reports about this massacre and these cowards should be held accountable. Those cops are incompetent and cowardly, but were okay roughing up panicked mothers outside, that task they could handle. :mad:

May the children and teachers who lost their lives rest peacefully. Condolences to their families. I can't even begin to imagine how the mothers of these young children feel after having their babies gunned down and killed in the classroom. Heartbreaking and disgusting.
 
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Perhaps it's time for grisly crime-scene photos (with faces blurred out). We sanitize the news so that people's sensibilities aren't offended. It's time Americans became deeply offended by the ongoing mass shootings in our country, including those where teachers and little children are slaughtered.

Let those who vote for no holds barred, pro-gun legislators, understand the true consequences of their actions.
 
win231 said:
If you're not kidding.....No. A Browning M1919 fires cartridges that have way too much power for a house gun due to excessive penetration. And at 30 lbs, how would you carry it around?
Re: Fully Automatic Rifles, they wouldn't be a good choice, either. They use up ammo very quickly & they are designed for the battlefield - to spray a general area where the enemy might be to force him out of cover.
As for legality of full auto firearms, in many states, people can own one after a background check & special licensing & tax stamp - very expensive:
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Just to be clear, my objection to full and semi-automatics is not because they are expensive or expend too much ammo, it's for the simple reason that in the hands of a nut job they can be used to quickly kill dozens of people, and in a US of more than 300 million there is no shortage of nut jobs and mass murders, so limit the automatics and semi automatics to the police and military -- period!
 
SeaBreeze said:
From all I've heard and read, those Texas cops who refused to go in and stop the shooter before the lives of 19 innocent children and those two teachers were taken in cold blood have that blood on their hands. They had the armor and the weapons and they waited while the children died. Investigations should be done regarding their response and the contradictory BS reports about this massacre and these cowards should be held accountable. Those cops are incompetent and cowardly, but were okay roughing up panicked mothers outside, that task they could handle. :mad:

May the children and teachers who lost their lives rest peacefully. Condolences to their families. I can't even begin to imagine how the mothers of these young children feel after having their babies gunned down and killed in the classroom. Heartbreaking and disgusting.
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I absolutely agree.. but I cannot get that father out of my mind , who when he tried to run in to save his daughter, was handcuffed by the police.... and his 10 year old daughter died.. I'm outraged for him.. the police who did this should have to face serious consequences for his actions... this man has to live all his life knowing he was there , and could have saved his child.. and a faceless lawman physically stopped him by placing him under arrest.. I hope he sues...
 
ElCastor said:
Just to be clear, my objection to full and semi-automatics is not because they are expensive or expend too much ammo, it's for the simple reason that in the hands of a nut job they can be used to quickly kill dozens of people, and in a US of more than 300 million there is no shortage of nut jobs and mass murders, so limit the automatics and semi automatics to the police and military -- period!
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You have unintentionally provided the reason & the justification for owning a large-capacity semi automatic firearm when you said:
"There is no shortage of nut jobs."
The fact that they are effective at killing is precisely why homeowners have them - as in the examples of home invasions with multiple assailants I posted previously. That's also why police officers have them.
And when police (who are paid to protect us) are apathetic & incompetent, they provide more reasons for people to arm themselves.
 
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hollydolly said:
I absolutely agree.. but I cannot get that father out of my mind , who when he tried to run in to save his daughter, was handcuffed by the police.... and his 10 year old daughter died.. I'm outraged for him.. the police who did this should have to face serious consequences for his actions... this man has to live all his life knowing he was there , and could have saved his child.. and a faceless lawman physically stopped him by placing him under arrest.. I hope he sues...
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He can try to sue, but no judge will allow it.
 
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