George Zimmerman Cleared

rt3 said:
You must be getting your definition of the Internet. I was using Westlaw searching for class definition that are actually used in case preparation. You and Jim need to catch up.
Some of that "jury nullification" stuff for people who have already made judgement.
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You are mistaken...
 

Oh for crying out loud...

cretinism

(ˈkrɛtɪˌnɪzəm)n1. (Pathology) a condition arising from a deficiency of thyroid hormone, present from birth, characterized by dwarfism andmental retardation. See also myxoedema

Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003
cre•tin•ism

(ˈkrit nˌɪz əm; esp. Brit. ˈkrɛt-)

n.a congenital deficiency of thyroid secretion, resulting in stunted growth, deformity, and mental retardation.
[1795–1805; < French crétinisme]


[h=1]cretin[/h]
Also found in: Medical, Acronyms, Encyclopedia, Wikipedia.[h=2]cre·tin[/h] (krēt′n)n.1. A person afflicted with cretinism.
2. Offensive A person



 
QuickSilver said:
I'd venture to guess nothing... He has NO idea what cretinism... or Cretin is..
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Yes, I have nothing against the man but he is obviously locked into a position and wrong or not he won't budge. He probably even knows he's wrong but won't give up this display of total misunderstanding.
 
AZ Jim said:
Yes, I have nothing against the man but he is obviously locked into a position and wrong or not he won't budge. He probably even knows he's wrong but won't give up this display of total misunderstanding.
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The sources are there in Westlaw, I don't understand why you keep insisting you are right all the time, nothing personal.
 
rt3 said:
The sources are there in Westlaw, I don't understand why you keep insisting you are right all the time, nothing personal.
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Well, it's not so much I (and others) are right as it is, you are wrong. Ask 100 people what westlaw was and maybe one would know, not true with Webster. Unless you have something concrete to add, I give up teaching you.
 
Actually rt3 stands for reverse t3 or triiodothyronine which helps stop thyroid deficiency causing the the topic you seem to be an expert on. You guys need to catch up.
 
GeneMO said:
Sorry April, but that is the term from my generation. When I was little it was *****, then they changed it to "colored people" (As in NAACP), then it was changed to Black, Now African American. My mind is simple and I have trouble keeping up with a moving target.

I think it should just be American. But, if race was taken out of the picture, then Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, and Obama would be lost and broke. We were told that with the first AA president that the divide would be healed, all would be great, and we could set around the campfire and sing.

I guess that group of society needs to decide what they want to be called.

Gene


I guess one half of me is English American, and the other half German American.
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First off Black is fine, the word itself wasn't what I was referencing it was the way in which you threw it out there. And there you go again, you now had to bring Al and Jessie into it as a segment who have these feelings toward black people do, it just always seems to come up, no matter the conversation, no matter how much you say it isn't about race. Throwing in Obama, Sharpton and any other black person that gets under your skin who seems to have a leadership role, well any accomplishments they have in life must all be due to racial strife. They certainly couldn't attain anything if the world were without prejudice and they were free to advance as any other human being with all the same rights based on the same premises that America was founded on all being equal and all starting out with the same rock and mortar. No of course They never could have made it on their own if they were born into a world that just saw them and treated them as it did any other person from the beginning.

As far as why the changes in names from coloureds to *****es to blacks and so on, are you telling me your really don't understand the connotations those references had along the way and how people of color in this country have been referred to as lower specimens just when referenced in how people used those words and with an amount of venom when doing so. I realize a lot of people lack a certain amount of knowledge when it comes the history of our beloved country or shall I say closed their eyes to the history and treatments and degradation, but, those that experienced it, remember and when hearing certain words feel the sting that those terms brought with it, so, forgive them if they are still trying to find their dignity in some way that makes them feel comfortable in words that comes out of a few people's mouths when they reference them.

As I said, I'm fine with Black, AA, American. I could do a dance around being called black like some do and say I'm not really black at all if I wanted to disclaim it altogether considering my bloodline, but, I perfectly comfortable with with black, ***** and colored not so much. And for the record, I don't have any idea where the term honky originated from, I never used terms like that nor cracker, never felt the need to denigrate people in such ways. for some words like that come natural, not so much for me. Now arseole and idiot yes I easily use such labels for many a person regardless of skin color such types are unfortunately abundant.
 
Honky was a band formed by one of the original members of "The Band". Taken from western honkey tonk music. Honkeys would gather around the piano player.
 
I didn't follow or read the transcripts of the trial. Does anyone know what the instructions to the jury were? This is ultimately important. I would be very interested in reading the instructions from the judge to the jury. Many jurors when asked after their decision has been published, why they voted the way they did will often cite the judge's instructions and how it fit to their vote.

A person can sit in front of the TV and watch every word of a trial being being spoken and have their mind made up until the judge gives his instructions to the jury. Judges will often say, "You must find the defendant not guilty if, yadda, yadda, yadda." Or, "You may find the defendant guilty if yadda, yadda, yadda." It sometimes comes down to the judge's instructions.
 
911 said:
I didn't follow or read the transcripts of the trial. Does anyone know what the instructions to the jury were? This is ultimately important. I would be very interested in reading the instructions from the judge to the jury. Many jurors when asked after their decision has been published, why they voted the way they did will often cite the judge's instructions and how it fit to their vote.

A person can sit in front of the TV and watch every word of a trial being being spoken and have their mind made up until the judge gives his instructions to the jury. Judges will often say, "You must find the defendant not guilty if, yadda, yadda, yadda." Or, "You may find the defendant guilty if yadda, yadda, yadda." It sometimes comes down to the judge's instructions.
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Hadn't even thought about Zimmerman until he was plastered on the news the past few weeks for domestic violence and then again about this verdict which I didn't even remember was on the table, not really interested in him any more than OJ, but the two just keep making the news or forums because some like stirring things up.

I could go back and look over the details, there were plenty, I didn't draw any conclusion till I read and heard all of what was available including what the jurors and all involved had to say. I don't retain information details for that long and frankly, I'm not in the mood to dredge all of this up, but for those that jump to conclusions about anything I too suggest they not just go by what the see on the tube and so forth. Too much misinformation out and about. I know better than that, someone may not, not my MO. I don't rush to judgement.

I'm sure if you want this information you can easily find it. Let us know the results of what you found since you are interested in what they were.
 

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