Squalid Living Conditions Of Hong Kong's Poor Population

Pinky said:
.. and on the other side of the coin, there are those who live in opulence .. very sad.
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yes.. there are 19 billionaires.. not much in a population of 7.1 million people...IMO..

However the HUGE cost of square footage of homes , and the prevalence of Cage homes.. I mean in that video, people have been living in a 6 foot cage home for 30 years.. ..just doesn't make sense to me.

Hong Kong is 1,114 sq kilometres in area.. with 7.1 million population.. and up until 12 years ago the Uk ruled Hong Kong

London with an area of not much more.. 1,572 square KM.. has a population of 8.9 million... 66 Billionaires ...and NO Cage Homes..:unsure:
 
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hollydolly said:
yes.. there are 19 billionaires.. not much in a population of 7.1 million people...IMO..

However the HUGE cost of square footage of homes , and the prevalence of Cage homes.. I mean in that video, people have been living in a 6 foot cage home for 30 years.. ..just doesn't make sense to me.

Honk Kong is 1,114 sq kilometres in area.. with 7.1 million population.. and up until 12 years ago the Uk ruled Hong Kong

London with an area of not much more.. 1,572 square KM.. has a population of 8.9 million... 66 Billionaires ...and NO Cage Homes..:unsure:
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It won't be long.
 
hollydolly said:
yes.. there are 19 billionaires.. not much in a population of 7.1 million people...IMO..

However the HUGE cost of square footage of homes , and the prevalence of Cage homes.. I mean in that video, people have been living in a 6 foot cage home for 30 years.. ..just doesn't make sense to me.

Honk Kong is 1,114 sq kilometres in area.. with 7.1 million population.. and up until 12 years ago the Uk ruled Hong Kong

London with an area of not much more.. 1,572 square KM.. has a population of 8.9 million... 66 Billionaires ...and NO Cage Homes..:unsure:
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And it's certainly not the billionaires that are making that difference. People with that kind of money do not live in the same world that the majority are in. It almost appears they don't even know the majority exists.
 
I don't think there is any large metropolitan area where there isn't a huge disparity between the rich and poor. It always rankles our sense of fairness. I don't know a way to even the score. Even when we were running around in deerskins, somebody always had a bigger section of the cave.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
I don't think there is any large metropolitan area where there isn't a huge disparity between the rich and poor. It always rankles our sense of fairness. I don't know a way to even the score. Even when we were running around in deerskins, somebody always had a bigger section of the cave.
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That is so true. Those who have more take it for granted. If you are on the have side of the equation why worry about those who don't have. We conditioned the west's economic model to enrich the individual, not to take care of human well being. The only way this will turn around, is either by voting in compassionate, equality seeking candidates, or by grass roots revolution... which is certainly a possibility.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
I don't think there is any large metropolitan area where there isn't a huge disparity between the rich and poor. It always rankles our sense of fairness. I don't know a way to even the score. Even when we were running around in deerskins, somebody always had a bigger section of the cave.
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There are very few people living in Cages in any of the other richest countries in the world..simply because the cost of Land is beyond any affordable price.. currently at the moment.. the price of an average home is $184,000 Hong Kong Dollars PER SQUARE METRE which is approx.. $24,170 US dollars Per SQUARE Metre ......the average salary is $20,000 HK per month

The price of an average home is more than $10 MILLION HK Dollars ... equal to $1 million, 200,000 Dollars US....
 
jujube said:
I saw some slums in India where the living conditions made that look like a particularly nice Motel 6.
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yes but at least they're out in the open, they have access to outside, albeit with sewerage running along beside their homes, they have at least one whole room to themselves if not 2 .. ... in HK the people are sleeping locked up with the Rats ... in a CAGE only 6feet long...
 
Yea, Hong Kong is a mess...caught between the west and the east. BUT, let us take a look at the horrid conditions all over the US and Britain and ...etc. No food, no shelter, no clothing, and no health care. Disposables in the land of the wealthy. How come free and democratic societies like these can not address these issues. I can understand Hong Kong's struggle, but not the privileged wealthy nations. Explain that.
 
I can't find it. It's a pic of the street one of the huge LA film studios are on. It's a neat and clean boulevard, not some trash strewn back lane. It's the street all those limos use to get into the studios. and with somebody living in a tent right in the middle of the sidewalk. A tent or a cage, I'm not sure which is better. At least, there's some available land. Isn't Hong Kong an island, or several islands with very little buildable land left for anything?
 
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fuzzybuddy said:
I can't find it. It's a pic of the street one of the huge LA film studios are on. It's neat and clean, boulevard, not some trash strewn back lane. It's the street all those limos use to get into the studios. and with somebody living in a tent right in the middle of the sidewalk. A tent or a cage, I'm not sure which is better. At least, there's some available land. Isn't Hong Kong an island, or several islands with very little buildable land left for anything?
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yes I believe so, but the point is it stand on pretty much the same size acreage as London... and it has over a Million less people.. and London has no such cage homes...
 
jujube said:
I saw some slums in India where the living conditions made that look like a particularly nice Motel 6.
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I was just going to mention India, where they have a caste system. Those of the lowest caste as treated as outcasts. I don't know what point hollydolly is trying to make but there are people living in squalor in all countries of the world.
 
Being homeless is a far worse fate than having a cage room to stay in. At least they have somewhere to go out of the elements and dangers. They are way less likely to die than living on the street. Hong Kong is now becoming China's city. They want the west's influence out. It is causing a lot of problems. This is frightening part about Taiwan. Who is going to win control...the west...or China. It could be the last stand for the west, and personally i hope it is, and they get chased home with their tail between their legs.
 
Lavinia said:
I was just going to mention India, where they have a caste system. Those of the lowest caste as treated as outcasts. I don't know what point hollydolly is trying to make but there are people living in squalor in all countries of the world.
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the point I'm trying to make is that no other country makes working people or people who have retired from working their whole lives, have to live in Cages.. because they don't earn enough to buy or even rent property...
 
hollydolly said:
the point I'm trying to make is that no other country makes working people or people who have retired from working their whole lives, have to live in Cages.. because they don't earn enough to buy property...
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That is different in what way to becoming homeless because people don't have enough money? This makes no sense. Millions
( if not a billion or more ) are homeless...nothing compared with just the poor in Hong Kong.
 
Paco Dennis said:
That is so true. Those who have more take it for granted. If you are on the have side of the equation why worry about those who don't have. We conditioned the west's economic model to enrich the individual, not to take care of human well being. The only way this will turn around, is either by voting in compassionate, equality seeking candidates, or by grass roots revolution... which is certainly a possibility.
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Back in the 60's, when Hong Kong was under British rule, the ship I was on paid numerous visits to Hong Kong. I walked the streets of Hong Kong and Kowloon many times and never saw poverty. In fact it seemed quite prosperous. On the other hand, since the departure of the UK, Hong Kong has been ruled for 25 years by the Chinese Communist Party -- not what I would call the "West's economic model".
"Chinese leader Xi Jinping on Friday claimed “true democracy” began in Hong Kong 25 years ago when China assumed control, as he marked a symbolic anniversary for the city transformed by his political crackdown."
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/01/asia/hong-kong-china-anniversary-day-intl-hnk/index.html

Then there is Venezuela, a prosperous oil rich country which was seized 22 years ago by Hugo Chavez, a compassionate equality seeker and socialist. Must have become a thriving model of prosperity, an economy envied by the rest of the world? Well not quite ...
"The 2020-2021 National Survey of Living Conditions (ENCOVI), conducted by researchers at Andres Bello Catholic University (UCAB), found that of the country's 28 million residents, 76.6% live in extreme poverty, up from 67.7% last year."
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/extreme-poverty-venezuela-rises-766-study-2021-09-29/
 

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