Nurse drives Mercedes through red light and kills 6 in explosion/fire filled crash.

The relevancy is rather obvious. A nurse/doctor is considered to be dedicated to saving lives; not murder.
Similar to a police officer committing a crime.
I see your point but the reality is far too many give false respect to a profession .....
not the people in that profession .............there are many examples of awful people wrapped in a cloak of a regarded profession.

This clearly shows she is a person first with some sort of problem to drive and act so reckless. I bet in her defense will be she has saved many or she was over stressed lately etc ...... those items are not relevant and she chose to do what she did.
 
I see your point but the reality is far too many give false respect to a profession .....
not the people in that profession .............there are many examples of awful people wrapped in a cloak of a regarded profession.

This clearly shows she is a person first with some sort of problem to drive and act so reckless. I bet in her defense will be she has saved many or she was over stressed lately etc ...... those items are not relevant and she chose to do what she did.
What if they say she was mentally incompetent at the time? Insanity defense. What if she blacked out? I have this feeling that is what is going to happen.
 

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Horrible story. But I don't understand why the fact that she is a nurse is relevant at all. Would be it more or less of a crime if she had some other profession?

Unfortunately it's the medias spin on comparing the offenders profession which is contrary to the crime they committed.

1. Nurse who is trained and employed at a hospital to save peoples lives yet she kills 6 innocent people in a needless and completely avoidable accident all because she and her boyfriend had a domestic issue.

2. Cop who swears to serve and protect those very same people he killed in a murder spree.

3. Firefighter who is trained and qualified to extinguish house fires and rescue citizens yet he torched the very same house where 11 citizens suffocated from smoke inhalation. 8 of the victims were infants and children

4. Paramedic who has the training an lifesaving equipment to revive a patient who suffered from cardiac arrest yet he injected himself with morphine sulfate to maintain that high then injected patients with chest pains with sterile water to cover the missing morphine. This actually happened in Saint Cloud Florida.
 
Unfortunately it's the medias spin on comparing the offenders profession which is contrary to the crime they committed.
I agree, the media has a motive to make it as sensationalized as possible. It is really awful for all involved.
The focus should be on the victims not nurse /expensive car.

There are bad people in many many jobs.......and either giving people too much credit because of a profession or very little credit based on whatever job they hold.
When people complain about labels and stereotypes i think go preach to media, often they are the worst offenders.
 
I agree, the media has a motive to make it as sensationalized as possible. It is really awful for all involved.
The focus should be on the victims not nurse /expensive car.

There are bad people in many many jobs.......and either giving people too much credit because of a profession or very little credit based on whatever job they hold.
When people complain about labels and stereotypes i think go preach to media, often they are the worst offenders.

You are very astute Jeni, I never even considered that aspect. Thx for posting this.
 
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What if they say she was mentally incompetent at the time? Insanity defense. What if she blacked out? I have this feeling that is what is going to happen.
Of course. Her attorney wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't offer such a defense.
I recall actress Halle Berry speeding down a city street, probably drunk, crashing into a car, seriously injuring a woman & her young daughter, then speeding off & driving home & phoning her attorney.
She claimed the accident caused Amnesia & she had no memory of it; that's why she went home. Pretty creative - the time delay prevented her DUI test from showing impairment - much like Ted Kennedy's delay in reporting the accident when he killed his passenger.
Yeah...Amnesia, but she somehow remembered where she lived & her attorney's phone number.
https://ew.com/article/2000/03/10/halle-berry-sued-her-hit-and-run-accident/
 
Horrible story. But I don't understand why the fact that she is a nurse is relevant at all. Would be it more or less of a crime if she had some other profession?

@Sunny when discussing a crime there are details. She is a nurse, that's a detail.

Well, every story has its details. Why not describe what she was wearing, for instance? What were her favorite hobbies? What kind of pets did she own? How was her sex life?

What if she had a different kind of job? Can you imagine a headline reading: DATA ENTRY CLERK ACCUSED IN WNDSOR HILLS CRASH?

And what on earth does the make of her car have to do with anything? Would it be less of a crime if she had been driving a Toyota?

This sounds like a horrific crime. But very poor journalism. They should be focusing on what happened, without padding it with totally irrelevant details.
 
Well, every story has its details. Why not describe what she was wearing, for instance? What were her favorite hobbies? What kind of pets did she own? How was her sex life?

What if she had a different kind of job? Can you imagine a headline reading: DATA ENTRY CLERK ACCUSED IN WNDSOR HILLS CRASH?

And what on earth does the make of her car have to do with anything? Would it be less of a crime if she had been driving a Toyota?

This sounds like a horrific crime. But very poor journalism. They should be focusing on what happened, without padding it with totally irrelevant details.
I think it’s a riff on the Madonna/whore trope. There’s a popular stereotype of nurses as selfless angels of mercy, endlessly nuturing and compassionate. When a real person falls short of that image, all hades breaks loose and s/he becomes a demon.
 
Well, every story has its details. Why not describe what she was wearing, for instance? What were her favorite hobbies? What kind of pets did she own? How was her sex life?

What if she had a different kind of job? Can you imagine a headline reading: DATA ENTRY CLERK ACCUSED IN WNDSOR HILLS CRASH?

And what on earth does the make of her car have to do with anything? Would it be less of a crime if she had been driving a Toyota?

This sounds like a horrific crime. But very poor journalism. They should be focusing on what happened, without padding it with totally irrelevant details.
When someone doesn't get something that is so simple, it's because they don't want to get it.
 
I think it’s a riff on the Madonna/whore trope. There’s a popular stereotype of nurses as selfless angels of mercy, endlessly nuturing and compassionate. When a real person falls short of that image, all hades breaks loose and s/he becomes a demon.
Good point, and probably that Madonna/whore thing is due to the editor, rather than the journalist. I write a column for our local bi-weekly paper, and I've learned that the writer of the article never gets to provide the headline. Though a couple of times I've suggested a headline, which the editors used. So maybe I'm being too hard on the journalist; it was most likely an editorial decision.

But I do have to wonder: would any editor ever come up with a headline such as: ACCOUNTANT DRIVING HYUNDAI accused of...? Of course not. It would probably have said: 6 killed by speeder ignoring red light, or something like that.
 
I know this fishwrap probably does not apply here but I just wanted to throw it out here anyway. The one thing us Long Guiland high school reprobates appreciated is the judge mandated three strikes choice.

Strike 3. Jail.

Strike 2. The Marines, not any other branch of the military but the Marines

1A. A thousand word written apology.

1B. Get a job, any job and pay damages to the aggrieved parties especially to owners of homes who's windows were broken by our massive stash of very large rocks and very long pieces of construction lumber.

1C. Instead of taking the school bus you would have to walk to and back from high school. Summer, Winter, Spring and/or Fall.

1D. If you had car parking privileges at high school it was revoked for the rest of the school year. Just that alone was enough to keep you on the straight and narrow.

That's it. Seriously, isn't that a little overkill? After all were were just kids.

You're welcome
 
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isn't that a little overkill? After all we were just kids
Kinda depends on the offense. For petty crimes I think it makes sense, for more serious violent ones I think it may be underkill. Probably a different answer for adults vs kids.

On a flight from Denver to Atlanta once I sat next to a retired Sherriff who had become a consultant on recidivism and how to reduce it. His first comment was that we had too many people in jail, and most sentences were way too long.

He said that for most people spending just a few months in jail is a traumatic experience and a good deterrent, spending longer tends to damage the person and make recidivism more likely. On the other hand he said there were some people who were not able to resist criminal activity, no matter the sentence. He said that about 75% of people in jail shouldn't be there and 25% should never get out. He was a strong proponent of the 3 strikes thing, with reasonably but not too lengthy sentences the first two times, then no getting out ever after the third.

I think that probably makes sense, except for someone who takes a life or lives either by murder or gross negligence. It may not be a good idea to give these people the chance to do it again, too much at risk. One strike is probably enough.
Strike 2. The Marines, not any other branch of the military but the Marines
I can see some logic in that, but in your day I don't think the Marines allowed women, what did he do with them.

And I am not sure its a good idea to staff our military with criminals, one would need to be careful who this was applied to.
 
Kinda depends on the offense. For petty crimes I think it makes sense, for more serious violent ones I think it may be underkill. Probably a different answer for adults vs kids.

On a flight from Denver to Atlanta once I sat next to a retired Sherriff who had become a consultant on recidivism and how to reduce it. His first comment was that we had too many people in jail, and most sentences were way too long.

He said that for most people spending just a few months in jail is a traumatic experience and a good deterrent, spending longer tends to damage the person and make recidivism more likely. On the other hand he said there were some people who were not able to resist criminal activity, no matter the sentence. He said that about 75% of people in jail shouldn't be there and 25% should never get out. He was a strong proponent of the 3 strikes thing, with reasonably but not too lengthy sentences the first two times, then no getting out ever after the third.

I think that probably makes sense, except for someone who takes a life or lives either by murder or gross negligence. It may not be a good idea to give these people the chance to do it again, too much at risk. One strike is probably enough.

I can see some logic in that, but in your day I don't think the Marines allowed women, what did he do with them.

And I am not sure its a good idea to staff our military with criminals, one would need to be careful who this was applied to.

Just lowball stuff like throwing rocks through the windows of new home models, throwing rocks through the windows of people "When they were not at home" who annoyed us. Shooting out streetlights with our Crossman pellet rifles. Toilet papering houses on mischief night. Starting crap in town then getting a couple two three six packs of Bud and hiding behind the firehouse laughing our trouble making buts off with mirth and glee. So with that having been uttered please keep in mind that we weren't doing anything the average Long Guiland scruffs cared about other then having our poor as church mice indulgent moms and dads buying us those sickly green Fender Strat knockoffs from www.lafayetteelectronicsupply.com in Roslyn New York, Elephant or Rat muscle cars, cutting class, making out with chicks at the drive in theater, giving and getting hickies, swilling Buds and any other mischief we deemed worthy of our time because most if not all the towns on the Sandbar spent more cash on business advertising then recreational parks GOD forbid they should have to shell out a dollar two three to pay us miscreants tribute to curtail our hoodlumry.

BTW: My migraine producing paragraph length single run on sentence post are proof positive that English was not my strong smoot. lol.
 
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If she has previous problems like this or DUI perhaps it would be best to insure she never drive again. Not sure if just losing a license does that...
Much like convicted felons are not legally able to possess a gun, but that doesn't physically prevent them from getting one.
 


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