Canada banned all handgun sales

[squatting dog]

About the only way would be to reduce availability and law enforcement. Both would take time, probably a lot of it.

I know you, and many others, believe they need their guns for self protection. However I am not sure those guns really make people safer. I worry more about what might happen to a grandchild when one of my guns got used.

I keep mine under lock and key, and do not keep ammunition available. Double safe, however I know it would make it hard to use one in an emergency, but I feel better about the safety of the kids...

I am sure there are many publications on all sides of this issue, but this is one that kind of makes my point:

Will a Gun Keep Your Family Safe? Here’s What the Evidence Says​

The pandemic has inspired a surge in gun sales, but research shows that having a firearm in the house won’t necessarily help in a dangerous moment — and it will heighten other risks.
https://www.thetrace.org/2020/04/gun-safety-research-coronavirus-gun-sales/#:~:text=Yet research clearly shows that,potential protective benefits of firearms.

Editorial director James Burnett, “The Trace” is not an “anti-gun” organization, but hopes to “appeal to people across the spectrum on the issue.” But the content makes it clear that the organization is just another Bloomberg-funded gun control project. The site even states, “We bring an admitted bias to our beat.”

Why would I trust them to give the straight skinny?

 

[mrstime]

Which country did you come from @mrstime?

I've traveled quite a bit and was never so thankful when my toe touched down on Canadian soil after each trip.

We immigrated from the U.S. in 1969, became citizens as soon as possible at that time, 1975. Went back on Vacation a couple of times, but now I only have a couple of cousins left now, so I will never go back.

 

[squatting dog]

That's OK Shali but I am still waiting for an answer to my question as to why life is so much more dangerous in US than in Australia when we have so many common characteristics.

We have criminals too, and they do get hold of firearms but we don't have any need to strap on a side arm when we leave the house to go shopping. Our police are less trigger happy too because they aren't afraid of being shot every time them pull over a speeding car.

Australia United States
Population: 25,739,000 331,894,000

 

[squatting dog]

Trust me on this.......you have never been more wrong in your life.

Amen.

 

[win231]

Yes there are five that quickly come to mind but there are several more......IPSC, IDPA, GSSF, Bullseye and IHMSA.

I competed in IHMSA handgun silhouette matches for over 25 years......my handgun of choice was a single shot bolt action Remington XP-100 like pictured.

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Less than 2 minutes short clip of an IHMSA match.

Metallic Silhouette is fun. I competed in 4 matches but I never owned a dedicated silhouette gun, so I used what I shoot most accurately - the Uzi. Not made for Silhouette, but really accurate on the 50-meter targets. I only shot in the free-standing events.

 

[Shalimar]

Actually, Canada is a nation of debaters. We quite enjoy listening to the contrasting opinions of others. Adds spice to a conversation. We don’t enjoy being patronised by some who disagree with our point of view. Makes it difficult for us to retain our famous courtesy.

 

[Gaer]

No Gary, you have it wrong. LEGAL hand guns will NOT be taken away. The restriction applies to SALES, TRADES, or IMPORTATION of hand Guns into Canada. Ownership will NOT be affected at all. Got that now ? Those who NOW own a hand gun in Canada will NOT be affected. Try to remember this fact. JimB.

Jim, Isn't this just a "foot in the door" to gun registration and then gun confiscation?

 

[Murrmurr]

Give it time

It's called foresight

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One only need look at Ukraine right now to see the possibilities. The former Russian-friendly government relinquished all their nukes to Russia, but fortunately citizens were allowed to keep some weapons. Limitations were pretty strict, though... until upstart Zelenski was elected Prez and Russia started annexing NE Ukraine.

 

[Shalimar]

Give it time

It's called foresight

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I am confused. Is this a friendly tweak across the border, or a pointed comment suggesting we Canadians lack common sense?

 

[Alligatorob]

Why would I trust them to give the straight skinny?

Who do you trust? The question of how safe it is to have guns in the house is really important. I'd like to see some unbiased data on it.

 

[Chet]

Actually, Canada is a nation of debaters. We quite enjoy listening to the contrasting opinions of others. Adds spice to a conversation. We don’t enjoy being patronised by some who disagree with our point of view. Makes it difficult for us to retain our famous courtesy.

You mean like this?

 

[Shalimar]

You mean like this?
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Hey, we’re just hugging it out, hockey style.

 

[squatting dog]

Who do you trust? The question of how safe it is to have guns in the house is really important. I'd like to see some unbiased data on it.

I trust myself.
Now, I don't have a Bloomberg corporate media to give me a public platform, but, Just going by the hundreds of folks I know who have guns, I can say without a doubt that every gun I ever saw or knew about was safe. Never used in a crime, never sold on the black market, and never smuggled out of the country.
Does that mean my stat's would prove that guns are perfectly safe? Of course not... there will always be evil out there and evil will always find a way to manifest itself. What my stat's would say is guns are 100% safe in the hands of responsible owners.
Now, Canada has it's own laws and I see no problem with that as I'm not a citizen of that country. However, our country is and still is a constitutional republic and therefore, we the people have a say in this. Therefore, put it to a vote by the people and let the chips fall where they may.

 

[jimintoronto]

Jim, Isn't this just a "foot in the door" to gun registration and then gun confiscation?

You are miss informed. In Canada guns are ALREADY registered, as are the people who own them. You are confusing Canada with the USA. The ARA keeps filling American's head with LIES about what the laws are in Canada. Do your own research, and find out the truth. JimB,

 

[BC Flash]

The right to bare arms is written into the US Constitution:

Right to keep and bear arms in the United States - Wikipedia

 

[Beezer]

The right to bare arms

Especially when you want to wear a T-Shirt in the hot Summer!

 

[Alligatorob]

What my stat's would say is guns are 100% safe in the hands of responsible owners.

That is probably true, but my own personal statistics are not so encouraging.

I know two people who died in gun accidents, both young kids. I know two people who committed suicide with guns. And I know one person who I believe was a responsible owner, his drunken brother stole one of his guns and ended up in a gun fight and dead as the result.

I know no one who has used a gun in self-defense, or who has been murdered with a gun.

That's the problem with our own statistics, sample sizes too small, they just don't tell the whole story...

 

[squatting dog]

That's the problem with our own statistics, sample sizes too small, they just don't tell the whole story...

Exactly. It's also the problem with agenda driven sites that don't really tell you their sample sizes too.

 

[JaniceM]

Especially when you want to wear a T-Shirt in the hot Summer!

Oh crap.. I wanted to say that, but you said it first!

 

[Gaer]

You are miss informed. In Canada guns are ALREADY registered, as are the people who own them. You are confusing Canada with the USA. The ARA keeps filling American's head with LIES about what the laws are in Canada. Do your own research, and find out the truth. JimB,

Oh! O.K.

 

[Alligatorob]

Oh crap.. I wanted to say that, but you said it first!

And not something about our right to arm bears?

 

[JaniceM]

And not something about our right to arm bears?

I figured somebody would mention that

 

[squatting dog]

On a personal note, Ive carried for the last 40 years. Never had to fire a shot. Pulled it 4 times and was prepared to use it. Every time it stopped a crime in its tracks. Living in the sticks makes it almost mandatory to carry. You are a long way from help.
Does that make me a small ***** nut cake?
Second edit... the wife had to pull her gun one time. Was also prepared to use it and had to hold perp there until law arrived. When the sheriff finally arrived, (15 minutes), she told him she was afraid that, because the guy was starting to get aggressive, she would have to shoot the intruder. His response... I'd have no problem with that.

 

[Shalimar]

Jim, Isn't this just a "foot in the door" to gun registration and then gun confiscation?

I am not Jim, but I will answer the question. All guns already needed to be registered in order to be legal. Legal guns are not confiscated unless criminal behaviour is suspected or involved, or the owner is deemed no longer competent to care for them safely.

 

[Alligatorob]

Pulled it 4 times and was prepared to use it.

I have always heard that you should not pull a gun unless you planned to use it. The gun itself is likely to draw fire. I know all situations are different, what are your thought on that?

Does that make me a small ***** nut cake?

I'd think not, but I do like some "nut cakes".