America get ready for Major Food shortages in 2023..

Myrtle said:
I am not a prepper. However, living in a snowy climate and having gone through some pretty good storms before going through the pandemic, I’m never caught with an empty pantry.

Since the pandemic you can count on being able to borrow a roll of toilet paper or paper towels here too. :oops:
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Same here.. ... and cleaning supplies..
 

Murrmurr said:
When there is a food shortage, what do you all stock-up on?

I speed over to Bel Air Market and grab a bag of flour and a bag of sugar, the large jars of smooth peanut butter and strawberry jelly, bags of pasta, rice, and lintels, a couple boxes of chicken stock, a few cartons of butter, frozen veggies, several cans of tuna, which reminds me to grab a big jar of mayo, several cans of beans, 5 or 6 pounds of ground beef and a bunch of chicken thighs.

By the time we eat through all that, I'm over the price hikes.

(I don't do food storage)
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I am seeing higher prices on everything but no shortages.
 

win231 said:
I don't agree with everything he said.
I think there will never be a shortage of fertilizer.
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Not so much a shortage as an increase in prices. Potash prices are rising rapidly and will continue to do so. Altho Canada is the largest in terms of potash reserves, the next largest in order are Russian, Belarus, and China. Everyone else is 'small potatoes'.

The Ukraine war is damaging Russia's ability to produce many types of industrial products. Their economy is contracting already with an increasingly severe manpower shortage.

Belarus is stable for now but knows perfectly well that if Russia wins in Ukraine, the next two targets are Poland and itself. And China is such a heavy user of potash, everything it produces it uses, then imports more on top of that; so they are a net importer, not an exporter.
 
Here is a list of what I have heard will be in short supply:
  • any wheat based product, i.e. bread, pasta, flour, etc.
  • cooking oil
  • butter
  • any tomato based product, i.e. canned tomatoes, ketchup, sloppy joe mix, etc.
  • bottled water
  • beer, champagne
  • corn
  • lettuce
  • oranges, orange juice
  • basically anything in an aluminum can due to aluminum shortage
I have stocked up on canned tomatoes, etc. and pasta. My husband really wants his speghetti dinners.
 
caroln said:
Here is a list of what I have heard will be in short supply:
  • any wheat based product, i.e. bread, pasta, flour, etc.
  • cooking oil
  • butter
  • any tomato based product, i.e. canned tomatoes, ketchup, sloppy joe mix, etc.
  • bottled water
  • beer, champagne
  • corn
  • lettuce
  • oranges, orange juice
  • basically anything in an aluminum can due to aluminum shortage
I have stocked up on canned tomatoes, etc. and pasta. My husband really wants his speghetti dinners.
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Any timeframe??
 
Murrmurr said:
We have a shortage of cat food. Doesn't make sense to me, but all our stores are really short of cat food. Especially canned, but dry stuff, too.
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Yes, I’ve had trouble getting what I usually buy. I did get a substitute last time so they didn’t starve but they weren’t very nice about changing. :ROFLMAO:
 
hollydolly said:
There's a shortage of Aluminium to make Cans.. ... most of it comes from Ukraine
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That makes sense, holly dolly. It wasn’t my problem though because it was the dry food in a bag that I couldn’t get. If it helps anyone else a lot if wet food comes in pouches now. Maybe that would get around the aluminum shortage.
 
Not sure about some of the things the video describes. Food poverty... yes, shortages... not so much.
Various fertilizers types have largely already been purchased for the spring planting season. Prices were below this time last year.
The aluminum shortage was real, but largely due to China shutdowns, etc. The expectation is back to normal by end of this year. Half of our aluminum comes from Canada and Mexico, with about 1/4 from China.
Beef prices are likely to go higher as herds were thinned from drought conditions, that impacted feedstocks. It will take some time to recover.
Most of the issues with production of corn, wheat, etc. were weather related and will be weather related. Canada and the upper plains had severe drought conditions, which inhibited yields. Soybeans are 10% above year ago; Wheat down 2%; canola/rapeseed down 20%; Sunflower down 10%; Corn up 10%; POTATOES UP 40%.
The aforementioned is for the US., As Europe is another story altogether. European industries that are heavily reliant on natural gas, WITH U.S. production, are shifting that production to the U.S. rather quickly. (Think OCI-NV as an example)
 
hollydolly said:
..says this guy.

I don't know if he's right but I've watched the whole video and he seems to know what he's talking about!

Major Shortages will include.. Fertilizer.. Beef, Flour, Wheat, Corn.. Vegetable Oils.. Vegetables both fresh, frozen and canned .. ( aluminium shortage).. Baby formula.. Chicken & Eggs...

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All I see is just some random, farmer looking guy standing out in some random, farmy looking kind of place talking about random, farmy kinds of stuff that he thinks everyone should be worried about. With all due respect to the OP, I request permission to not be worried about this.
 
To quote Chicken Little, "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"
Of course there will be shortages due to climate change. Three years ago it was oranges in FL, then lettuce in AZ, salmon, coffee from S A, and the list goes on .

Also, England is going through the same thing, as are other countries. @hollydolly , why aren't you posting articles about the horrendous rise in prices in what you can or can't buy in your own country? Use the stats to headline another "scare tactic" thread. Surely you could start with chickens and eggs.Then, potatoes, and whatever else you choose to focus on. I'm sure members from your country will appreciate your invaluable resources.
 
Over the past year I've seen higher prices, but no actual shortages except eggs.

Like @hollydolly and @Myrtle, I keep a very well stocked pantry that includes a large amount of ingredients: a heavy amount of baking supplies and vegetable oils, bottled juices, olives, shelf stable oat and almond milk, oats and other whole grains, dried beans, pasta, canned and frozen fruits and vegetables, and plenty more. Also TP, PT, laundry and dish soap, and other cleaning supplies.

A deep pantry is a godsend when there are shortages.
 
It is surprising to me what suddenly there seems to be a shortage of. I needed a can of corn starch and the shelf was totally bare. I asked a worker about it and she said the store had not been getting any in and she didn’t know if or when any would be in. This was a major grocery chain. Well, I can live without corn starch, just an inconvenience.

Cat food , however, remains a problem. Both canned and dry. My husband and I are constantly on the lookout for cat food at every store we go in.
 
I don't doubt food shortages are coming. The only thing that would impact me is the egg shortage and maybe wheat. I mostly use egg whites (from a carton now)...they're more convenient and less messy. My son buys the most expensive eggs (organic, free range) but he does get them at a decent price since they are Costco's brand (Kirkland). Still I'll only eat his when I want a hard boiled egg or if he makes omelettes for us. I do buy wheat bread and whole grain pasta when I can find it or else whole wheat pasta.

I can do without eating chicken and have done so for a couple of years. I have chicken in the freezer now that I bought on sale a month ago...still haven't felt like cooking it. I'll eat the occasional turkey burger. I keep tuna on hand, often buying a dozen pouches at a time. I don't eat tuna every week so they last awhile. I've all but given up on fresh fruit. It's like a crap shoot. Sometimes the fruit taste good, but often they taste like nothing. Recently I've had some good mandarin oranges though. We have some resourceful people here on SF...we'll manage I'm sure.
 
Myrtle said:
Since the pandemic you can count on being able to borrow a roll of toilet paper or paper towels here too. :oops:
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Uh... @Myrtle ? :) I may have to borrow some of those paper towels. When the "paper scare" happened in mid 2020, I bought plenty... and since we don't use a whole lot of them, it lasted until now. So time to restock and I'm building my WM pickup order this morning... ONE brand of paper towel available in-store and it's a shop towel by Scott, single roll! The rest are on shipping or out of stock including their own brand. The ones on shipping have inflated prices... hope that isn't starting again!
 
In this part of Texas a lot of food stuffs are raised and we have a local farmers market that is open every Saturday all year round. Also the valley raises a lot of citrus that is trucked up so we'll see. So far so good.
 
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