Police Officer in Jail for Killing an Unarmed Man He Repeatedly Shot in the Back

What should be done unfortunately always isn't in these cases. These trigger happy cops need to be stopped, it sickens me to see murders happen so often with little or no consequences. These cops are not only threatening the lives of American citizens, but they're also doing a disservice to the good policemen on the force who don't have power and control 'issues' and who do what they are paid to do in protecting and serving the community.
 

QuickSilver said:
It's very upsetting. Like most White people our age, I was raised to trust the police and to see them as helpers. Of course minorities have had different experiences.. I had no idea.. and it makes me heartsick. It would be easy to say.. "oh this is a very small minority of officers" but come on..!! This keeps happening over and over and over..
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I was raised to believe the cops were all good guys you could trust. But this does happen far too often.

If this cop is not convicted there will be rioting across the country and will make Ferguson look like a picnic.
 
Just think - if the perp had obeyed the officer's orders, hadn't tried to disarm him and hadn't run, he would still be alive.

Amazing how that "personal responsibility" thing works, huh?

Encountering a cop nowadays is like meeting a stray dog - you don't know if they're friendly or rabid. The best thing to do in both cases is to treat them with respect, don't make any sudden moves and 99% of the time things will work out okay.
 
It is tough to defend yourself from prosecution when you are witnessed as having shot someone in the back so many times and no one else was hurt or at risk. I don't know much about laws, but I believe that this may be perceived as an act of premeditation in some states.
 
SifuPhil said:
Just think - if the perp had obeyed the officer's orders, hadn't tried to disarm him and hadn't run, he would still be alive.

Amazing how that "personal responsibility" thing works, huh?

Encountering a cop nowadays is like meeting a stray dog - you don't know if they're friendly or rabid. The best thing to do in both cases is to treat them with respect, don't make any sudden moves and 99% of the time things will work out okay.
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Phil, I haven't seen anything that suggests that the dead man tried to disarm the cop. After all, it's on video that the cop went back to where he DROPPED his taser and then planted it beside the body. As for running away....is that grounds for killing him? Not like he was a danger to the cop was he? He's running away for goodness sakes.

My thoughts go out to his mom that's for sure. To watch your child die like she has been able to do, must be heart breaking.
 
The video is pretty self explanatory. A jury should have the same opinion when it's all said and done. But what should happen is different than what can happen.

Also the victim had a warrant for child support which is a warrant. But police patrol officers should not be used as defacto bill or debt collectors. A similar thing happened in the Garner case(untaxed cigarettes). And is happening all over the country with license plate readers ie stopping people for not registering their car, no insurance or another non physical driving offense warrant. The police are their to prevent crime and/or catch criminals. They are not debt collectors nor should they be acting as court officers for anything other than criminal rulings that affect safety. The court needs to enforce it's rulings with subpoena servers, constables, warrant squads and/or court officers: not patrol officers.
 
He was stopped for a broken tail light.. Who knows why he ran.. maybe he was afraid he would be arrested for delinquent child support. BUT as Debby said.. that was no reason to shoot him in the back 8 times.. He was running like a 50 year old heavy man.. loping along.. not sprinting. That 35 year old officer could have overtaken him. I don't understand any of this..
 
How is a fleeing prisoner or suspect a threat. Police are supposed to be a paramilitary organization yet frequently exhibit the discipline & patience of street gangs and two year olds. It seems to me some police are using their weapons out of anger trying to make a point rather than affect an arrest or seek justice.
 
SifuPhil said:
Just think - if the perp had obeyed the officer's orders, hadn't tried to disarm him and hadn't run, he would still be alive.

Amazing how that "personal responsibility" thing works, huh?

Encountering a cop nowadays is like meeting a stray dog - you don't know if they're friendly or rabid. The best thing to do in both cases is to treat them with respect, don't make any sudden moves and 99% of the time things will work out okay.
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Where do you live Phil?
The United States of America or 1940s Third Reich?

Don't bother answering. The question is rhetorical.
There is such a thing as corporate responsibility too.
 
I'm really grateful that this incident was captured on video. Without that video, this murder would have just been swept under the carpet like so many others have been. If it was a tiny blurb on the news, that would be a lot without the video telling the real story. That cop would've just had another notch on his belt, and he'd be out on the streets to kill another victim.

I have to commend the city and the mayor for handling it the way they did. They acted fairly quickly, they fired the cop, but afforded his pregnant wife to keep her insurance to cover the hospital bill. I don't agree with that part, any other person would have not received such a favor, however I won't nitpick about these other details, another senseless murder by an officer in a position of authority is the number one priority to address.
 
Charged with murder? How? On whose authority? I thought there had to be a Grand Jury inquiry.

I really don't get the Grand Jury thing. Does is apply in all states? Does it only apply for some situations and not others?
 
Dame Warrigal said:
Charged with murder? How? On whose authority? I thought there had to be a Grand Jury inquiry.

I really don't get the Grand Jury thing. Does is apply in all states? Does it only apply for some situations and not others?
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Not all cases go to a Grand Jury. When a case is so obviously strong, the State Prosecutor can go ahead and indict a person and charge them with murder. The Grand Jury only weighs in on cases that are not so clear cut and if there is probable cause to charge. In this case it's pretty obvious and the Prosecutor went ahead with the charges of murder.
 
Debby said:
Phil, I haven't seen anything that suggests that the dead man tried to disarm the cop. After all, it's on video that the cop went back to where he DROPPED his taser and then planted it beside the body. As for running away....is that grounds for killing him? Not like he was a danger to the cop was he? He's running away for goodness sakes.
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I was going by the officer's statement, in which he claimed there was a struggle for the Tazer.

My thoughts go out to his mom that's for sure. To watch your child die like she has been able to do, must be heart breaking.
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The man was 50-some years old, was he not?
 
Dame Warrigal said:
Where do you live Phil?
The United States of America or 1940s Third Reich?
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The Third Reich was better organized, more efficient and more honest.

Don't bother answering. The question is rhetorical.
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Oops - too late.

There is such a thing as corporate responsibility too.
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Corporate? I thought police were civil service, not a corporation.
 
SifuPhil said:
I was going by the officer's statement, in which he claimed there was a struggle for the Tazer.



The man was 50-some years old, was he not?
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My son is 46... so? Does that not mean it wouldn't be horrible for me to watch him murdered? YES.... the mother and father of this man saw the video.. and I imagine it broke their hearts.. Don't you?
 
SifuPhil said:
Corporate? I thought police were civil service, not a corporation.
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"Corporate" refers to a body of people, not just a corporation. It has the same connotation as "corps".
The word applies to the military, the police force, a society or even a nation.

There is such a thing as corporate responsibility, corporate virtue and corporate sin (crime).
When the corporate culture encourages or tolerates wrong doing then even though the individual is at fault, so too is the group as a whole.

As I read your posts, you've indicated more than once that the police are to be obeyed without question or protest on pain of summary death.
A society that accepts this is definitely part of the problem we are seeing recently.
 
Looking around I found this graphic is The Atlantic. http://www.theatlantic.com/national...ngly-familiar-killing-of-walter-scott/390006/
I think it speaks for itself

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The number of people killed by police in 2011. (Elisa Glass/The Atlantic)

An encounter with the police is generally stressful. It's especially difficult when black citizens are wary of the police and feel unfairly targeted. African American residents of North Charleston have been complaining about mistreatment by police for years. The Charleston Post and Courier reported on complaints in 2010; the-then chief of police replied by arguing that the ends justified the means. "I am not going to apologize for the strategies we've employed in these areas," he said. "Those strategies are working and the violence is dropping dramatically." Two-thirds of stops that failed to produce a ticket or arrest involved black drivers. The following year, however, the chief insisted his department did not profile.

Most encounters do not end with violence or death, even if they produce humiliation and tension with police. But they are far more likely to end in a killing in the United States than anywhere else. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, police shot and killed 828 people in 2011, a figure that includes all killings, justifiable or not. By comparison, during the same year, there were two fatal police shootings in England and Wales; six in Australia; and six in Germany.
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Even if there is an adjustment for population, there still remains a problem in the USA that is very disproportionate.
 
Stop trying to make us look bad. We need to clamp down even more to keep this liberal leaning, permissive, anything goes society, functioning. OK? Good...
 
The NBC video is the best one as they freeze the frame several times.
 

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