Bringing back mask wearing?

CeeCee said:
I have all my Covid shots and two boosters..didn’t get Covid but I do know some that did that also had the vaccine. Their cases were very mild though.
I would have gotten the last booster also but it was around the time I got flu and pneumonia shot.
The flu shot was the only one with a mild side effect for me.
I really can’t remember the last time I was sick..thank goodness.
Also, have no problem with masks. Still are required in medical bldgs here…always have one in my purse and car.
I also see many people still wearing them ..especially in Costco and stores like that.
I don’t but would if it was required.
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WoW @CeeCee ... where have you been girl ?.. good to see you.. are you well ?
 

CeeCee said:
Hi Holly..I’ve been lurking here and there😀
I’m well..mentally, lol
Physically I have a lot of back pain issues..I know you know what that’s like.
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I certainly do know. ..as you know..only too well.. Good to see you tho' I was concerned about you after not seeing you for so long, so I'm pleased, ( back problems aside).. that you're doing good..

Hope your daughter and family are well..
 

chic said:
It doesn't. It does send a psychological message that something is not right if you live in culture/country where mask wearing is not the norm. It hurts little children also who are just beginning to understand how to socialize by recognizing and interpreting facial expressions. :unsure:
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"Not right'? You mean wanting to protect your neighbors and the staff at places where you do business when you've just begun having symptoms of something that might be infectious is a bad thing--not 'normal' ?
 
perChance said:
I wonder how many germs are on the masks that people carry around in their pockets, and how many times people use the same mask.
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Possibly a lot--but how often do they RUB them on the skin of strangers in stores? Whereas coughs and sneezes not properly covered can propel germs many feet on to settle on surfaces that others will touch in the course of shopping, or doing other business--like counters.
 
feywon said:
Possibly a lot--but how often do they RUB them on the skin of strangers in stores? Whereas coughs and sneezes not properly covered can propel germs many feet on to settle on surfaces that others will touch in the course of shopping, or doing other business--like counters.
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Which is why I sanitize my hands after shopping as well. :giggle:
 
chic said:
It doesn't protect anyone from viruses. It says so right on the box.
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Not on my box


3M N95s available nationwide for consumers and for essential workers
"As we have throughout the pandemic, 3M is committed to making sure everyone who needs an N95 has access," said Raymond Eby, President of 3M's Personal Safety Division. "3M's N95 respirators are NIOSH-approved and filter out at least 95% of airborne particles, including those that may contain viruses."
 
Marian said:
Not on my box
"3M's N95 respirators are NIOSH-approved and filter out at least 95% of airborne particles, including those that may contain viruses."
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Hmmm. Interesting. It's probably the difference between surgical masks and the N95s. I do recall a point where the guidelines started specifying N95s for Covid after testing both types against Covid.
 
perChance said:
How did we all manage to survive for so long without masks? Our immune systems work better when we are exposed to 'bugs'.
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For one thing, Covid was the most serious global pandemic any of us have lived through since 1918, when 50 million people died from the Spanish Flu. But today, our response to pandemics, as clumsy as this one was, is much faster than it was 100 years ago. Deaths from Covid are now at 6.8 million, and most of those were from before science came up with solutions. And of course, the virus mutated to Delta, which was good for both humans and the virus.
 
Marian said:
"3M's N95 respirators are NIOSH-approved and filter out at least 95% of airborne particles, including those that may contain viruses."
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My chain link fence keeps out 95% of bicycles, including bicycles that may contain viruses. 🙂

Marian said:
I've heard people say that they can smell things through a mask, so that means they are ineffective against coronavirus. This shows a lack of understanding. It's about particle size and pore size of a mask. A mask is going to have holes in between the fabric weave. It's like saying a BB can go through a volleyball net, so that must mean the volleyball net is ineffective for volleyballs or basketballs. A smell molecule is going to go through a mask because it's a very small particle size. Molecules make up proteins, and proteins make up viruses, and viruses will glob together. That will not get through a mask as easily.
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Therefore, people don't need to wear masks. All they need to do is wear volleyball nets on their heads, because volleyball nets keep out basketballs, and basketballs don't clump together, which means that basketballs are much smaller than viruses!
 
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SeniorBen said:
Got any legitimate sources for that "science?"
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As you probably already know thousands of so called 'scientific studies' have been done since COVID. Most of the science based studies done early on verified that masks do not work against viruses. Then it started to shift, when they took into consideration about mask stopping 'water droplets' carrying virus that were stopped by wearing masks. But no where can I find if it was determined how often water droplets were the cause of virus transmission. They just all jumped from no to yes, when it should have been from no to sometimes...below is a scientific study from early on that is typical of the early science available.

https://t.co/bKOENjCKVq
— J.B. Handley (@GenRescue) November 18, 2020
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"The study is perhaps the best scientific evidence to date on the efficacy of masks."
 
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Timewise 60+ said:
My only interest is that many people are wearing masks in fear, based on a false narrative! Nothing more, if you like wearing masks go for it, but don't tell lies as to why you are wearing them...
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"if you like wearing masks go for it, but don't tell lies as to why you are wearing them."

Maybe I'm not understanding your statement, but if a person has a fear of Covid and they believe a mask helps prevent them getting it then how is wearing a mask a lie?
 
Becky1951 said:
"if you like wearing masks go for it, but don't tell lies as to why you are wearing them."

Maybe I'm not understanding your statement, but if a person has a fear of Covid and they believe a mask helps prevent them getting it then how is wearing a mask a lie?
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Becky1951...my reason for that comment is that I know a number of elderly people where the masks in fear! They fear getting COVID and the Flu in general and believe that the masks will protect them. Truth is that mask do provide some protection, but they cannot stop the virus from infecting you. Additionally, there is some science that says wearing masks over long periods of time can harm your health, as it does impact your ability to get oxygen to a small amount. Over time this can be dangerous.
 
Timewise 60+ said:
As you probably already know thousands of so called 'scientific studies' have been done since COVID. Most of the science based studies done early on verified that masks do not work against viruses. Then it started to shift, when they took into consideration about mask stopping 'water droplets' carrying virus that were stopped by wearing masks. But no where can I find if it was determined how often water droplets were the cause of virus transmission. They just all jumped from no to yes, when it should have been from no to sometimes...below is a scientific study from early on that is typical of the early science available.


"The study is perhaps the best scientific evidence to date on the efficacy of masks."
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I could not find a date for the study, other than it was reported on a Wednesday, but maybe someone could point me to the actual date. The report does point out that it conflicts with a number of other studies, but it doesn't say what those numbers are, suggesting that it is not the best scientific evidence, most current, or most definitive:

Researchers in Denmark reported on Wednesday that surgical masks did not protect the wearers against infection with the coronavirus in a large randomized clinical trial. But the findings conflict with those from a number of other studies, experts said, and is not likely to alter public health recommendations in the United States.
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But it clearly points out that it does not contradict growing evidence that "masks can prevent transmission of the virus from wearer to others," which is rather important during a pandemic:

The study, published in the Annals of Internal Medicine, did not contradict growing evidence that masks can prevent transmission of the virus from wearer to others. But the conclusion is at odds with the view that masks also protect the wearers — a position endorsed just last week by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
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At this time there is no law that prevents people from wearing masks or not wearing them. And when states enacted such requirements, they were seldom enforced, and I don't know of any proscribed penalties for not wearing them would have been. At least in Virginia where I live there never was any enforcement. And at this time, with the the less deadly strain of Delta, I have a hard time understanding the fuss.
 
Timewise 60+ said:
As you probably already know thousands of so called 'scientific studies' have been done since COVID. Most of the science based studies done early on verified that masks do not work against viruses. Then it started to shift, when they took into consideration about mask stopping 'water droplets' carrying virus that were stopped by wearing masks. But no where can I find if it was determined how often water droplets were the cause of virus transmission. They just all jumped from no to yes, when it should have been from no to sometimes...below is a scientific study from early on that is typical of the early science available.


"The study is perhaps the best scientific evidence to date on the efficacy of masks."
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That study is over two year old. Surely there must be a more current one that supports your narrative.
 


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