Dr. Oz - Entertainer or Scientists, what do you think?

applecruncher said:
:confused:
Holly earlier you said you've never heard of him and don't have an opinion. Did you changed your mind based on several extremely vague insinuations and the opinions of others?
Click to expand...

Not at all AC I still don't have a personal opinion of the man, my comments were simply agreeing with Ameriscot with regard to anyone who promotes something like Raspberry tea as a Miracle fat burning potion..and the other was after seeing him on Oprah..and replying to Davey's funny comment...just a funny quip nothing more

However, with the all due respect to what seems to be your unflinching support for this man...why don't you explain why you believe (other than he's a surgeon which apparently is not in question) why someone who is apparently giving out some doubtful medical advice particularly as a 'trusted MD'' should not be thought to be at best pulling the wool over people's eyes ? ..
 

Actually, I am beginning to suspect that some people don't actually know much about Dr. Oz and are going by heresay and what others might think, something known as 'group think'.
 
I don't have anything against Dr. Oz (or Oprah). I used to watch his show quite often, as I'm interested in health, natural supplements, nutrition and vitamins. As with anyone on a TV show, I take everything they say with a grain of salt, considering there are sponsors, etc. that they may be representing.

Regardless, he's had some good, entertaining and informative shows, IMO. I think of him as a reputable heart surgeon, who started a show that people would be interested in relating to everyday health, and he did a good job. Anyone who relies on everything others recommend, without doing their own homework and research, deserve what they get.

It didn't take a genius, in my opinion, to know a long, long time ago, well before Dr. Oz, that diet pills were bad news and unhealthy to take. I never touched them and never will. Entertainer or scientist, no....capable heart surgeon, yes, from all I've ever heard of him. I don't love or hate Dr. Oz.
 
Now boys and girls, I am Glinda. I've waved my magic wand and I decree that those who like the man who named himself after my queendom, Oz, may continue to like him. And those who don't, may go their merrie way! Glinda has spoken! :)
 
Ameriscot said:
Holly, he's a con artist on American tv. Only saw him once and knew when he was promoting his miracle fat burning raspberry tea that he was a quack.
Click to expand...


I don't agree on your assessment Ameriscot. I think he's a well trained doctor who is willing to look at even the alternate ideas and 'judge' them which as we all know, our regular doctors refuse to open their minds to all too often. Thirty years ago, my family doctor refused to consider deep muscle massage as a therapy for chronic back pain and today, when I get some of my major and long lasting muscle spasms that are eased and helped to heal by massage, I think of him and his ignorance. And how many of us rely on 'home remedies'? I recall much discussion on taking turmeric here, the effects various people experienced with it and yet your doctor is more inclined to prescribe pharmaceuticals than a 'dish of a good curry' every day. I think medicine is in part an evolving science/art and is missing out on the efficacy of some ancient remedies because of a professional snobbery.

He also brings to the attention of average Americans and Canadians, the dangers of some substances. Like right now I'm watching his rebuttal to that attack letter, which by the way was orchestrated by 'doctors' who shill for GMO companies like Monsanto, Big Tobacco and the pharmaceutical industry. On the program he's talking about the dangers of some new synthetic drug on the streets, called Flakka. And I've seen him do this regularly. He's even had the developer of that new GMO 'Arctic Apple' on the program to talk about his product as well as a guy who was talking about why he thinks GMO's are not good for you. Both sides of the story and that's gotta be a good thing right? And at the end, he said, "everyone can decide for themselves if they want to eat GMO's but we all deserve the right to know if that's what's in our foods" and he promotes labelling (which the GMO companies are horrified by, hence the letter).

And we all accept that foods have different effects on the body's metabolism. Eat a turkey sandwich and you want to snooze. Eat a pile of white flour pasta and you're good for a bit and then you crash as your body floods with insulin to counteract the load of starch which turns into sugars, that you just ate. Without having seen the episode that your talking about, I can't really comment on what he says is an effect of that raspberry tea regarding fat burning, but I'd counter with coffee being a pick-me up and too much can make you tense and edgy, so why not a tea that impacts your metabolism, i.e. speeds it up a bit and encourages the fat burning process?

Like everything else, you have to look at who started the controversy and take note of who pays them. Several of them have worked directly (as paid experts) for those food and pharma companies who are impacted by what Oz says. They despise his encouragement to be involved with your own health right from the basics, i.e. food, exercise, supplements, etc and including understanding how disease effects us because it has the potential to impact their business plan and bottom line. Like everything else, follow the money.
 
Josiah said:
"I Was On The Dr. Oz Show. Here's The Problem With The Wizard Behind The Curtain"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabriel-arana/oz-show-quack-controvery-critics_b_7128758.html
Click to expand...



With all due respect Josiah, the article in HuffPost starts off sounding like some whiny guy who was PO'd because he didn't get to keep a dressing room, to finish as though written by the same shills who work as paid experts for GMO companies, the tobacco industry, etc., and are trying to smear his reputation.

I do watch the show periodically and the only thing that I could complain about is how he brings audience members up to participate in his 'show and tell' aspects of the program. But probably the only reason I hate that is because I'd hate it if I got picked :). I think he presents BOTH sides of any question (freedom of speech and a respectful attitude even when someone is wrong , which apparently the author of that article resents), gives his perspective (yay or nay), and then it's up to you to decide.
 
Debby said:
I don't agree on your assessment Ameriscot. I think he's a well trained doctor who is willing to look at even the alternate ideas and 'judge' them which as we all know, our regular doctors refuse to open their minds to all too often. Thirty years ago, my family doctor refused to consider deep muscle massage as a therapy for chronic back pain and today, when I get some of my major and long lasting muscle spasms that are eased and helped to heal by massage, I think of him and his ignorance. And how many of us rely on 'home remedies'? I recall much discussion on taking turmeric here, the effects various people experienced with it and yet your doctor is more inclined to prescribe pharmaceuticals than a 'dish of a good curry' every day. I think medicine is in part an evolving science/art and is missing out on the efficacy of some ancient remedies because of a professional snobbery.

He also brings to the attention of average Americans and Canadians, the dangers of some substances. Like right now I'm watching his rebuttal to that attack letter, which by the way was orchestrated by 'doctors' who shill for GMO companies like Monsanto, Big Tobacco and the pharmaceutical industry. On the program he's talking about the dangers of some new synthetic drug on the streets, called Flakka. And I've seen him do this regularly. He's even had the developer of that new GMO 'Arctic Apple' on the program to talk about his product as well as a guy who was talking about why he thinks GMO's are not good for you. Both sides of the story and that's gotta be a good thing right? And at the end, he said, "everyone can decide for themselves if they want to eat GMO's but we all deserve the right to know if that's what's in our foods" and he promotes labelling (which the GMO companies are horrified by, hence the letter).

And we all accept that foods have different effects on the body's metabolism. Eat a turkey sandwich and you want to snooze. Eat a pile of white flour pasta and you're good for a bit and then you crash as your body floods with insulin to counteract the load of starch which turns into sugars, that you just ate. Without having seen the episode that your talking about, I can't really comment on what he says is an effect of that raspberry tea regarding fat burning, but I'd counter with coffee being a pick-me up and too much can make you tense and edgy, so why not a tea that impacts your metabolism, i.e. speeds it up a bit and encourages the fat burning process?

Like everything else, you have to look at who started the controversy and take note of who pays them. Several of them have worked directly (as paid experts) for those food and pharma companies who are impacted by what Oz says. They despise his encouragement to be involved with your own health right from the basics, i.e. food, exercise, supplements, etc and including understanding how disease effects us because it has the potential to impact their business plan and bottom line. Like everything else, follow the money.
Click to expand...

Obviously this programme is not shown in the UK. I saw it at my sister's house in Michigan. She kept telling me Dr. Oz says this or that, so I watched it with her one day. As soon as he began touting this miracle fat burning tea, that was it for me. I would never trust anything he said after that. I'd always wonder who was paying him to praise or criticise something. I'm sure he's an excellent surgeon or he wouldn't be on the faculty (?) of Columbia, but I'll never listen to him again.

I can find out what I want to know about health, research, exercise, diet, etc by googling reputable sources - not blogs which can be written by anybody. And not Wikipedia.
 
I haven't heard any of his fans here defending his 'miracle fat burning' products. Do you actually believe this kind of stuff works?!
 
Right. I looked through it and can't figure out what posts are missing. Oh well. I've said all I've got to say about it.
 
Ameriscot said:
I haven't heard any of his fans here defending his 'miracle fat burning' products. Do you actually believe this kind of stuff works?!
Click to expand...

Anny, he is not ONLY about fat burning products, it's not so flat and one-dimensional. How do you explain why so many people are watching him. It would be good if you yourself had some some actual facts and information to offer. Do you? I'm neither defending nor advocating him, I like to be objective.... in fact I think much of what he recommends in the way of healthy diet you might already be doing.
 

You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top